Ranma ½ [Ranma ½] Miscellaneous ideas.

No one would have fought Kodachi; at least no one we can name.

As for Mariko ... could she fight at all? I don't really remember and I have less than zero interest in looking up that story to find out.

OK, this one isn't too nice to Akane, but she IS asking for it. One of those wish granting items that keep showing up ends up in her hands and she wishes that everyone would treat her the way she deserves.

Yeah, it's going to be ugly.

On the plus side Soun is finally treating as the heir to the family school.

On the minus side Soun AND Kasumi are treating her like a small child that needs to be disciplined, Ranma's using her as his personal punching bag, and heaven help her if Nodoka finds out about all the times she's sided with one of Ranma's rivals.

What show and or manga have you been looking at? Cause it's been far too long to hang onto this fanon crap from the late 90s/early 00s.

Akane has some anger issues, but yes, she's a lot nicer and more restrained (especially in the manga) than most other tsundere I've seen (of the ones that are violent to the hero at all). That said, it could be quite interesting, depending on whose PoV determines what she deserves.

What about everyone calling her an uncute tomboy?

I mean, wishes backfiring is exactly what'd happen in Takahashi's world and all.

Where the idea falls apart is the horrific fanon entitled brat Akane who doesn't exist outside of the minds of people who only ever read terrible fanfics and have stuck to that interpretation because they're uncreative and dumb.

Besides, if resurrection is off the table, Akane would wish to be feminine or able to swim before any dumb wish about "treated like she thinks she deserves".

Mind you, this is a girl who is able to have sympathetic thoughts about Nabiki despite all the shit Nabiki puts her through. She isn't some whining brat, she's screams she's a martial artist to in reaction to Ranma telling her to hit the bench like she can't fight. Fuck off with that and come back when you've read past the first chapter of the goddamn manga.

Akane doesn't just have sympathetic thoughts about Nabiki, she often has them about whoever they have to deal with that week, I'd like to say that she has no way of knowing that, but she still tells Ranma to stop bullying Ryoga after it's revealed in her presence that it's the other way around, and when Miss. Hinako is introduced it's shown that she only remembers what she wants to, even if that isn't what actually happened.

As for her thinking she needs to improve, I find that rather doubtful. When Cologne is teaching Ranma the Chestnut Fist, she doesn't try and learn, despite being right next to Ranma at the time, and during the Breaking Point arc she doesn't seem to think that she should be partaking in whatever training Ranma's going through at the time. And the one time we do actually see her training it's very iffy, breaking brick is NOT martial arts training, it's a test of strength done every so often, but Takahasi might not have known that or she could have simply used it as an establishing shot, it's unfair the simply say that Akane thinks it is when it isn't in this context.

I have to disagree with this. At the very minimum it's making sure you have the correct hitting technique so that you don't hurt yourself. I won't claim it's as good as full-contact sparring (or even point-sparring), but saying it's not martial arts training at all is false.

Had an idea that I'm not sure is any good ... in fact, it probably just isn't. Fusion with One Piece world.

Zoan Devil Fruits (specifically these) were the attempt of a brilliant scientist in the past (i.e. not Vegapunk) to weaponize Jusenkyou and make it more controllable. This succeeded to a degree and in the modern OP world, Jusenkyou curses have become rare bordering on mythical.

Not sure what else this needs or where to build from that. It needs some way to account for Paramecia and Logia for one. But it's a start, or could be.

(Glad to see you back, ndf)

Well, the Logia might be forces of nature that got bound to the fruits somehow(?) As for Paramecia, they are the most varied, so it's harder. Products of magic, maybe...?

Then again, there is the elephant in the room of the similarities between all the fruits. There are too many for any single scientist to have made them all, but too similar for there to be no correlation.

TBH. the better solution is to reverse it, and have Jusenkyo derive from the countless experiments on trying to figure out how the fuck Devil Fruits work. Even something as simple as the water being tainted from the Copy Copy fruit, with the water temperature trigger being from experiments on how the fruit reacted to heat ie cold water caused it to activate and warm/hot water stopped it.

i'm not nearly as versed on OP as I should be, not yet having caught up to current manga, but that sounds pretty good, Anonguy.

I also had a thought, though this is probably terrible also, that there exists a spring in the Ranma/OP world that can erase Jusenkyou curses from a person or take away their Devil Fruit so they no longer have one and whatever one they had goes back in circulation. The spring exists ... except it was blocked, until Ranma unblocked it. I refer to that two-chapter story in volume ...23? Heron Island. Feel free to trash this, I'm sure it deserves it.

Yeah, I lurk here occasionally but don't see as much point in posting much anymore.

A spring that has like, seastone laced through it would be able to suppress the curses/DF power might temporarily give the effect. That or a spring infected by the Dark Dark fruit that would take whatever fell in. It's plausible, the only issue is that it'd run counter to the usual universal Ranma rule of no permanent cures (the 1/2 isn't for show).

The only real major hurdle is placing the springs in a plausible location for Genma and Ranma to reach without getting into major trouble. Maybe somewhere in East Blue in the opposite direction of Luffy, since fusing him and Ranma would basically cause too many issues. A little known island that has weird wildlife (due to the springs), with the whole Japanese Jusenkyo springs being a way to put another set of springs somewhere else for the Musk (if you want to include them). Hmm...

You could set the beginning on an island where the Tendos would be, have a bit of shenanigans and then send them off on an adventure for some reason, keeping them and the Strawhats somewhat separate in order to lower the amount you'd need to write characters you're not familiar with. And you know, minimizing the possibility of e-peen power level arguing too.

I knew about the Dark fruit (I haven't ignored spoilers, I just haven't read up to current) and that's a really cool application of it, honestly. I like that idea for an obscure island with weird wildlife.

Ugh, yeah, power-level arguing ... not interested in that crap anymore.

My overarching suggestion, regardless how you go forward, is that major clashes between the protagonist casts be treated most like certain Japanese crossovers, like the OP/Dragon Ball crosses. Namely they interact, team up to beat some dudes and then go their separate ways.

Since this is mostly setting fusion, you can just let the Strawhats follow canon without much intervention.

Here's an idea that I don't know if it goes anywhere. Someone with more imagination might be able to work with it though.

There is a fanon idea that Ranma specifically, or maybe just anyone in Anything Goes (Musabetsu Kakuto, whatever) must accept every challenge that comes his way. Let's suppose that's actually true instead of fanon, and then let's also suppose that Ranma or whoever can't hold back in any fight. Fights don't have to be, like, instant speedblitzes, but they can't sandbag either.

Thought. When Ranma (female) spars with Akane initially he dodges all of her attacks and never touches her, except with one finger on the back of her head after Akane punches a small hole in one of the dojo walls. In this, instead of wasting time dodging all of her attacks, he steps in on the first one and slugs her in the stomach. Hard, but only enough to wind her and maybe bring her to her knees -- hard enough to knock her out would be pointless and not hard enough to wind her probably doesn't stop the fight, so both those are essentially a waste of time.

In the ensuing conversation once Akane sees no point in continuing, as Ranma is clearly better than her, after Akane says something like "I'm just glad you're a girl. I couldn't stand losing to a boy", Ranma responds by saying something like "I don't want to be a girl".

This is of course true, and causes Akane to pause. Ranma elaborates by adding, "I was raised as a boy" (true), "I think of myself as a boy" (also true), and "I hate being a girl" (semi-debateable). None of that actually says outright that he IS a boy. So Akane gets the impression that Ranma is a very masculine girl (in mindset). The conversation continues some more, and the incident in the bath is short-circuited -- it doesn't happen, because Kasumi doesn't more or less shove Ranma (who K believes is female) into bathing with her sister. Maybe Akane never even starts that bath, doubly short-circuiting it.

This removes only one aspect of the bad impression Akane gets of Ranma and nothing else. How could it proceed?


EDIT Jeebus, I just realized how more or less dead this thread is. Shame too; so many memories ...

The simple fact is there is comparatively little Ranma fanfiction and ideas being generated these days... I do read some... but in the last year or so... only 4 non-crossovers and 12 crossovers.

Ranma straight out slugging Akane is fine, but the point is that it's poking fun at the idea of idiotic chivalry as a means of making a joke. It's why people get the idea that Ranma let's Akane hit him because he's so frequently shown she can't come close to touching him otherwise. I would say that the thing about "accepting every challenge" is just another example of Ranma's contrary personality. It's probably come up a number of times in passing but Ranma is literally the only person who has ever cited it, no one else has ever brought it up. Happosai doesn't follow it (he pointedly declined to fight Ranma during the weakness moxibustion), Genma isn't going to follow it. Akane would be a lot more miserable if she did. It's bull.

But you want to play it straight, which is cool. Not a lot of people do that without it being some fatfuck beer swilling dipshit in an Addiction MMA shirt they haven't washed since Obama was president chortling about "muh real Martial arts". Again, Ranma doing something to win the fight as fast as possible is good. I'm a bit iffy on Ranma getting the stuff about the curse out that won't cause some confusion, provided the bathroom escapade happens regardless.

If we're going forward with it, you're gonna have to decide where your end goal is. Are Ranma and Akane getting engaged without a lot of mistrust and hostility between them? Will he get engaged to Kasumi? Things like that. Will this "answering every challenge" be used in a more broader sense, allowing him to stretch what constitutes a challenge? Keep in mind Ranma running around attacking people will make him look like a shit head, regardless of meta satisfaction.

There are ways and means forward but you might have to figure out where you're going before you can start building the journey. That might seem backwards but hey, you can't write a story about a trip to Egypt if you haven't decided you're going to end up going to Egypt.

Since I don't know of any specific fics, I don't think this counts as a fic search.

Are there any decent stories where all three Tendo girls fall for Ranma eventually?

If not, well, someone should write one someday. No clue what sort of events could believably lead to it though.

Heh... I can think of tons with two, but almost none with the three... In fact only one IMO good story having all three after plot really comes to mind... One of the two versions of 'Will You Be My Fiance' by Ammadeau. This author made *two* versions. The 9 chapter version on FanFiction.NET is missing the 10th chapter and is from 2001, but is the main one, and the one I was thinking of.

The other was just 3 large chapters but never on FF.NET, only his long defunct site, I think was made later, my own copy was last downloaded by me in 2008.

The nebulous good qualifier kind of scuttles a lot of fics and we're limiting to just the sisters or is this a case of "tossed into the madness" kind of thing?

Writing would be simple yet hard, because just slapping the keyboard enough can get a story out. The hard part is having it be good.

Honestly, you COULD just rid the story of the other fiancees if you're just focusing on the sisters alone. That'd be more than enough drama to start, but there'd have to be a degree of license with all of them.

Kasumi would have to lose her purity, Nabiki's greed would either have to be downplayed or perhaps worse, excused. Akane's temper would have to be tampered on and the sharp jagged bits of Ranma's character would have to get a little rounder. All three of them falling for him is fine but he would still potentially have the capacity to fall in love back, right?

It is honestly tricky because harem shit is everywhere and people are often more about just writing the equivalent of action figure smashing...

But doable.

I think I was thinking initially of jettisoning the other fiancees, but I don't know if that's specifically required.

Also, I remembered another story which at least implied that all three Tendo daughters were interested in Ranma but that implication didn't really go anywhere. The beginning of "Comes the Cold Dragon" had some bits from Nabiki's point of view where she is thinking about her mistake in giving up what she did, and how she had to resign herself to acting from that point forward. Kasumi's case is just a throwaway comment. So, maybe that story counts. Maybe. But ..... ehhhhhhhhhh.

It's more or less an observation from the viewpoint of what value the characters would bring. In the manga, the fiancee train factually stopped once Ukyo pulled into the station and it's easy to see why. Outside of the childhood friend trait, she was just a mash of the other girls up to that point after all. So more or less, do we-speaking from a writing aspect here-add more complications when you have the three sisters already.

Okay so maybe just Kodachi. Or Shampoo. Or even Ukyo. Or all three. Potentially six fiancees right? And then you have to wonder what's the end goal? Ranma with the Sister Hat Trick or does one girl win the Battle Royal for Ranma? That's not even getting into the amount of things that would potentially have to be edited off them and him just to make it work.

I've never read Comes the Cold Dragon but from what's said, it sounds like a stretch to make something fit into the description. Once more, the "good" qualifier does its job, perhaps too well.

Well... the problem is once you start throwing random mixes of other fiances into the mix, it becomes more harem style, and while that opens more stories, a lot are not as good a read... one decent one to come to mind might be 'A Mother's Tale' by juandelacruz

You actually might get more good stories if you drop it to just two of the Tendos.

Which is why I figured it'd be easier to cut down on the clutter of redundant characteristics and shared traits. Having the characters be so close together must have made it easier to plug and play as it were, with certain pieces moved around to allow the chaos to reign. However, lacking the art to fall back on, trying to keep everything straight enough to not end up a giant fuster cluck of shit is a tall order.

As weird as it sounds, cutting out Akane would make for a genuinely different experience. She's always so tied up into everything that people only really excise her as part of removing Ranma from everything. And hell, giving the older sisters a way out of having to push past Akane might help that aspect bloom.

Though harem often fails because people get to the set-up and then skip the leg work of making such a massive thing work. With poor foundation, the weight of the scenario breaks the story's legs before it can get to work. I mean, there are a lot of very real emotions and feelings, as well as natural instincts you're gonna have to address. You'll also have to work out and hash out EVERY major to semi-major problem between everyone or else it will just fail. It's a lot of work for something where you just wanted Ranma plowing every girl like a farmer on meth.

Which you could just write, handwave by some plot device and refuse to elaborate further after the porn. It'd be newish since most of the passion spice stuff was dealing with what happened after with boring references to it. I dunno, could be fun.