A Birds of Prey idea

DhampyrX2

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#1
Okay, let's start of off basic. Sometime after the final fight with Harley, something staarts changing in New Gotham. Namely a lot of the old guard in the organized crime work are tightening theri operations and scaling things back. The patter doesn't seem like that much of a bad thing until you deal with the newer generations trying to fill the void, so to speak. Only they don't seem to be doing so.

The reason? There's rumors about something from Gotham's part stalking the night again. It isn't safe to do what needs to done in Gotham's underworld. Did you head aboutr Frankie Dobbs? He fell twelve stories and there wasn't any blood left in the body... (lol I can't help but use that line. It was such a classic.)

Anyway, the thrust of thngs is that Daddy's home. The higher-ups in Gotham's criminal element know know about the Bat's return and are going to ground. Especially since he seems more brutal and omnipresent than ever.

The only problem is that neither Barbara or Alfred know he's back or what's going on.


And that's pretty much the starting point. I have more but I'm too lazy to type it out unless there's some real interest in this idea. Feel free to discuss and suggest things at your leisure.
 

SotF

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#2
DhampyrX2 said:
Okay, let's start of off basic. Sometime after the final fight with Harley, something staarts changing in New Gotham. Namely a lot of the old guard in the organized crime work are tightening theri operations and scaling things back. The patter doesn't seem like that much of a bad thing until you deal with the newer generations trying to fill the void, so to speak. Only they don't seem to be doing so.

The reason? There's rumors about something from Gotham's part stalking the night again. It isn't safe to do what needs to done in Gotham's underworld. Did you head aboutr Frankie Dobbs? He fell twelve stories and there wasn't any blood left in the body... (lol I can't help but use that line. It was such a classic.)

Anyway, the thrust of thngs is that Daddy's home. The higher-ups in Gotham's criminal element know know about the Bat's return and are going to ground. Especially since he seems more brutal and omnipresent than ever.

The only problem is that neither Barbara or Alfred know he's back or what's going on.


And that's pretty much the starting point. I have more but I'm too lazy to type it out unless there's some real interest in this idea. Feel free to discuss and suggest things at your leisure.
So the Birds get to have their own confrontation with Dracula?
 

DhampyrX2

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#3
Well I was going with Batman actually being back, but with a little twist. Namely we all figure that a Bat that gave up on Gotham pretty much gave up on living. At this point he's pretty much staying isolated in secondary Cave and working himself to the point of death. It's kind of a last push to the end in his eyes. One that's further propelled by a certain chemical cocktail most Bat fans know and loathe...

The "no blood" line was just giving props to the first Burton Batman movie.
 

SotF

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#4
DhampyrX2 said:
The "no blood" line was just giving props to the first Burton Batman movie.
I believe it was also used in Batman Vs. Dracula

On a side note, I have been looking for a specific Birds of Prey fic that had Terry from Batman Beyond get thrown into New Gotham which led to an interesting scenario
 

DhampyrX2

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#5
SotF said:
DhampyrX2 said:
The "no blood" line was just giving props to the first Burton Batman movie.
I believe it was also used in Batman Vs. Dracula

On a side note, I have been looking for a specific Birds of Prey fic that had Terry from Batman Beyond get thrown into New Gotham which led to an interesting scenario
I remember that one. It was pretty good I have to admit.


I also have an alternate version of this in mind where you set Batman's return to action for the Black Canary episode. In particular, the part where boss Hawke was using that machine with the ropes to try to squeeze BC to death slowly. I have to admit my inner Bat-nerd pictured a batarang stopping him from pulling the lever to start the engine, or knocking it back into the off position. For most of the BoP villains that wouldn't mean all that much, but for an old mob boss like Hawke?

Shit, please meet mister fan.

And that's not even factoring in Helena's daddy issues once the dust settles or the fact BC would have made it out alive with more coordinated intervention.
 

SotF

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#6
It could be interesting for there to be an actual reason why Bruce pulled a vanishing act, especially if you add that he hadn't known about Helena.

One possibility is that something similar to the Bane incident happened, something that combined with what happened to Selena and Barbara to push him into leaving to try to either regain what he lost similarly to his original training trip or perhaps pulled something else and ended up doing something similar to J'onn from the animated series and disconnected with everyone, leaving only a few actually aware of what he was doing, but they were pretty much sworn to secrecy.
 

DhampyrX2

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#7
SotF said:
It could be interesting for there to be an actual reason why Bruce pulled a vanishing act, especially if you add that he hadn't known about Helena.

One possibility is that something similar to the Bane incident happened, something that combined with what happened to Selena and Barbara to push him into leaving to try to either regain what he lost similarly to his original training trip or perhaps pulled something else and ended up doing something similar to J'onn from the animated series and disconnected with everyone, leaving only a few actually aware of what he was doing, but they were pretty much sworn to secrecy.
My first thought of a reason for Bruce to go AWOL for that long would be Bane, but it could also have been Ra's. Both are credible threats on an international scale, and Ra's could pull him away for a time without crippling him. If you had Ra's pulling something bad enough, coupled with Selina's death and the fact he'd feel secure in Barbara taking care of Helena I could see that working. The fact Alfred was calling in a progress report to him at the end of the finale kind of shoots holes in the theory that he was unaware of his role as a father.

Of course the idea of a Bane breaking coming right after Selina's death has merits too.


And a third scenario pops up...

You have a typical Knightfall arc, minus Azrael's existence. Bruce sends Tim to work with Dick in Bludhaven (which was mentioned in BoP canon) and goes on a journey to either brood or recover. Dinah gets bored while Babs is out and she decides to go searching through the computers and comes across the records of what really happened to Batman. Obviously she takes it immediately to Helena to ask if she knew about her father's injuries. Now you have Helena pissed Babs was keeping that a secret from her for years and trying to decide if she should look for Bruce or not. Especially since his last email sent to Babs was asking, actually asking instead of ordering, her to watch out for Helena while he tried to handle what was done to him.

From there you can go two different ways. Bane comes back to Gotham or finally just surfaces as a big boss in town and tries to eliminate the Birds of Prey. Bruce returns either healed, or with a more advanced version of the system Babs was using to regain the use of her legs. If he's using the artificial system, I could take a Batman Beyond angle and have the system work flawlessly, but put such a strain on Bruce's system he risks a heart attack, or worse, the longer that he uses it.

Or I could have the mastermind behind Bane's return be Ra's and Talia. Needless to say Talia is not thrilled that her "beloved" had a child with Selina and she is seeking to use bane to eliminate Helena. This prompts Bruce to return to Gotham determined to stop Bane or die in the process.
 

SotF

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#8
Batman could have vanished because of Talia threatening Helena.

It could be interesting for Talia to threaten revealing Helena's parentage to the more deranged rogues of Gotham if he didn't go with her. Of course Bruce finds out that what happened to Selina was originally masterminded by Talia to begin with though she failed to get both Selina and Helena...

Especially if you have Ra's actually being dead (Or faking it for whatever reason). Hell, in that case Ra's may actually be quite annoyed with Talia for the scheme.

Perhaps Alfred had a number in case of emergency as well as updates, though he left Barbera a part of the key to finding him.
 

spooky316

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#9
SotF said:
On a side note, I have been looking for a specific Birds of Prey fic that had Terry from Batman Beyond get thrown into New Gotham which led to an interesting scenario
If you're still looking for this fic, here it is:

Tomorrow's Prey by Morpheus
 

DhampyrX2

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#10
I just had an idea of how to get Bats home that was so simple it was EPIC! Let's think about who the primary villaness was for a moment. It was Harley. A smarter than normal and very controlled Harley but still Harley Quinn herself.

The catalyst to everything, just before going to take Babas on at the Clocktower, she did the onle thing that HArley would do as she was about to conquer Gotham and maybe the world...

She let Mistah J back out to play. And with the weird hypnosis pwer she had stolen nobody would even know until she was in her own cell somewhere and they were cleaning up the aftermath.
 
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