Nasuverse A Certain Magical Blade Works?
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Probably, but that's only fanon, albeit very logical fanon.
Yeah, which is pretty much why everyone always assumes that it follows either Fate or some hypothetical Ilya route....
Really? Where?
We know that he had a lover, too (Rin saw her in his memories), and that it likely wasn't Ilya (because Rin would have noticed Archer was fucking a loli, and also she was dead), Rin (because she'd have noticed herself and because Archer doesn't act as if she were his former lover) or Sakura (because Rin would have noticed and, also, you'd expect Archer to react differently to her in that case).
Yeah, which is pretty much why everyone always assumes that it follows either Fate or some hypothetical Ilya route....
Really? Where?
We know that he had a lover, too (Rin saw her in his memories), and that it likely wasn't Ilya (because Rin would have noticed Archer was fucking a loli, and also she was dead), Rin (because she'd have noticed herself and because Archer doesn't act as if she were his former lover) or Sakura (because Rin would have noticed and, also, you'd expect Archer to react differently to her in that case).
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I am a newbie to this forum, but already very interested in this story and I would like to know your opinion on this issue.
We all know that in Nasuvers, all souls are nichalny momentum, but I wonder what it would be for the heroes of the Index?
Here's my version:
Shiro - Sword.
Touma - Protection or Intercept.
Accelerator - The direction or movement.
Index - Library.
I am a newbie to this forum, but already very interested in this story and I would like to know your opinion on this issue.
We all know that in Nasuvers, all souls are nichalny momentum, but I wonder what it would be for the heroes of the Index?
Here's my version:
Shiro - Sword.
Touma - Protection or Intercept.
Accelerator - The direction or movement.
Index - Library.
Shirou can project things which are not swords.
Rin was incensed when she entered his workshop and found the UBW-projected kettle, which had not faded despite being created some time ago. (She was furious because that should have been impossible with Gradation Air, which was her big hint that Shirou was doing something else entirely; something far greater, and he didn't even realize how special it was.)
The less mysterious a thing is, the easier it is to perfectly project. If it's simple enough, it ceases to matter if the object is an armament or not. That's why any Shirou could project permanent kettles, and why anime Shirou could project a blanket to wrap and cover up the naked Ilya.
The question is whether or not non-armaments like kettles and blankets are stored in UBW, or if he needs an original on-hand to copy from.
Also, if Touma's ability is summed up in one word: "Disillusionment."
Accelerator: "Redirection."
Rin was incensed when she entered his workshop and found the UBW-projected kettle, which had not faded despite being created some time ago. (She was furious because that should have been impossible with Gradation Air, which was her big hint that Shirou was doing something else entirely; something far greater, and he didn't even realize how special it was.)
The less mysterious a thing is, the easier it is to perfectly project. If it's simple enough, it ceases to matter if the object is an armament or not. That's why any Shirou could project permanent kettles, and why anime Shirou could project a blanket to wrap and cover up the naked Ilya.
The question is whether or not non-armaments like kettles and blankets are stored in UBW, or if he needs an original on-hand to copy from.
Also, if Touma's ability is summed up in one word: "Disillusionment."
Accelerator: "Redirection."
Okay, specifically, all you need to Project is a perfectly accurate mental Blueprint. So, theoretically speaking, Projection can be used on ANYTHING. It's just that you need a PERFECT Blueprint, so good luck memorizing one to such a degree without something to cheat, like UBW. That's also why Shirou progressively lose the ability to Project Avalon : he started with an utterly perfect Blueprint that he progressively forgot because UBW couldn't stock it since it's not an armament.
Perfectly accurate blue-prints could theoretically come from Structural Grasp, which is a spell Shirou has for understanding anything that isn't a weapon. It's how he analyzes the weaknesses and malfunctions of the machines he repairs.
But UBW-projection is an entirely different beast than Gradation Air. They are only superficially similar. It's like comparing an electric-rail bullet train to a steam-engine. Completely different innards and outputs.
Shirou's projected kettles were completely different from anything Rin could make, being more perfect and complete and thus able to continue existing on their own... at least for a while. The difference was not Structural Grasp, but UBW-projection.
Tell that to warriors who fight with their sheaths. Given that it is a defensive armament and a super-hard sheath, Avalon should qualify as much as Rho Aias.
However, I'm willing to accept the idea that Avalon does begin to fade from UBW based on the fact that it is Rank EX, which is something normally beyond Shirou's ability to concieve or reproduce. Or, if Avalon continues to remain in UBW, Shirou cannot project a perfect copy of it, and only an imperfect copy appears when he expands his reality marble.
(Incidentally, I favor the idea that expanding UBW upon the world automatically creates one copy of every weapon recorded in Shirou's soul. For free. Any additional copies cost the same as normal.)
But UBW-projection is an entirely different beast than Gradation Air. They are only superficially similar. It's like comparing an electric-rail bullet train to a steam-engine. Completely different innards and outputs.
Shirou's projected kettles were completely different from anything Rin could make, being more perfect and complete and thus able to continue existing on their own... at least for a while. The difference was not Structural Grasp, but UBW-projection.
Tell that to warriors who fight with their sheaths. Given that it is a defensive armament and a super-hard sheath, Avalon should qualify as much as Rho Aias.
However, I'm willing to accept the idea that Avalon does begin to fade from UBW based on the fact that it is Rank EX, which is something normally beyond Shirou's ability to concieve or reproduce. Or, if Avalon continues to remain in UBW, Shirou cannot project a perfect copy of it, and only an imperfect copy appears when he expands his reality marble.
(Incidentally, I favor the idea that expanding UBW upon the world automatically creates one copy of every weapon recorded in Shirou's soul. For free. Any additional copies cost the same as normal.)
The difference between normal structural grasp and what Shirou does is that he goes beyond normal and records the history of things inside his blueprints, that is why his copies have soul and last longer and retain part of this original value. Also note that Shirou projection is different than normal projection, because aside from having a more complete blueprint of things, UBW provides materials. Note that this is why Rin gave Shirou her dagger in HF, she expected him to use it as part of the raw materials for the Jewel Sword.
Also UBW already gives a free copy when it deploys (well except for the cost of deploying UBW...), and then the cost of projecting another other copies rises inside the RM.
Also UBW already gives a free copy when it deploys (well except for the cost of deploying UBW...), and then the cost of projecting another other copies rises inside the RM.