A generic rant.

SimmyC

Well-Known Member
#77
She wants to be a teacher... that's pretty much all I know about Naru. What kind of teacher, and what major, I'm not entirely sure.

And I'm sorry, I just don't see Naru/Keitaro working at all. Of course, part of it was the fact that I never found Naru attractive either personality wise, and physically (but the first is more important anyways). With the wedding and all, it simply reaffirmed my belief that Naru hasn't really developed or 'grown' up. Fictional story with supernatural and wild plot devices aside. As for changing Naru 180 degrees, yeah, like I said before, she doesn't need to be Mutsumi 2 to be better. Just an indication that maybe, her love is genuine AND that she can hold her fist without abusing her husband. But again, overeaction in the case of Naru means violence. And that does NOT equal a healty relationship. I understand your point though. It's just that, I don't see much hope that what she did on her wedding day, was any different than what she was doing before (like when they were in the room when they 'tried' to be intimate). Even if now it is out of :wub: . What kind of :wub: punching your husband into the stratosphere? :angry:

And besides, there could be another way the end could have been drawn and still be true to the spirit of the manga that would also show 'growth' for Naru away from her violent streak, and more towards a truely loving couple. For example, Akamatsu could have Naru being made that her dress fell due to Keitaro's clumsiness, but before he socks him, she gives him a kiss instead. Instead, what we have here? More violence when Naru is supposively more understanding of Keitaro. <_<

Oh, and while the violence might have made Love Hina popular, well, just look at FFN. The amount of Naru/Keitaro fics compared to the alternatives should tell you something. Hell, Motoko showed more development than Naru IMO.
 

EagleCeres

Well-Known Member
#78
SimmyC said:
For example, Akamatsu could have Naru being made that her dress fell due to Keitaro's clumsiness, but before he socks him, she gives him a kiss instead. Instead, what we have here? More violence when Naru is supposively more understanding of Keitaro.? <_<
So very true... at least a
"i know youre sorry, *chaste kiss* and i still love you *blush* even if youre a perv *NARU PUNCH* but youre my perv!" *chases after him*
but nooo... poor Kei gets to be an abused husband :p
 

Legacy|iB

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#79
Well, to each his own preferences?

I like the Naru/Keitaro pairing mainly because it's a bit closer to home for me. And with Naru's character the way it is, I think there's a lot of potential characterization that can be done for her. I see that quite a bit, and I like it. Motoko is rather complete character on her own, but Naru has some pretty severe flaws, and I like them. As with Akamatsu-san's motive for making Naru violent and angry, making her upset and beating up people (mainly Keitaro?) kinda added a cuter part to her. Apparently, upset and angry actually does that for Naru, in my view at least. Everybody is free to disagree with that one.

Oh, and by the way, how many Naru/Keitaro fics are there on ff.net, compared to alternatives? I tend to see more alternatives than anything else, and for a bit, it annoyed me because most of them seemed like the same thing over and over again. I well I'm going to need to disrupt that for a bit by making a Naru/Keitaro pairing smack dap in the middle.
 

GenocideHeart

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#80
I must question your definition of 'cute'. A violent broad who tends to answer to EVERYTHING with her fists isn't amusing in the least, unless one is a Neanderthal male, in which case a strong female is probably the first choice... after clubbing her senseless, though - thatý's what Neanderthals did as a 'courting', and what I feel Keitaro should have done.

I'm against violence, especially on women, but the only language Naru would understand is violence, so let her try some herself, then see what she does.
 

SimmyC

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#81
I somehow don't find a VIOLENT AND SADISTIC woman to be 'cute'. <_< Strong and independent woman is one thing, but S&M Naru? Unless she's wearing a leather corsett, but even than I would have problems finding her attractive. Much less... 'cute'.

Now I will say that yes, women are perfect, I also have problems with. Belldandy, as much as I love her personally, is just too perfect for some fool like Keiichi. But there are some flaws that I would stay FAR away from. Like... overreaction resulting in being sent into LEO for one thing. <_<

As for how many Naru/Keitaro fics? I'm not entirely sure. But there should be, at least 10 or so of said fics. Possibly even more (like oneshots and stuff) so there are out there if you're looking for it. Just don't expect it to be that numerous (most seem to be Keitaro/Motoko or Keitaro/Shinobu, with the others behind even Keitaro/Naru).
 

EagleCeres

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#82
I dont see Naru as cute, Attractive/stunning when she wants to be... yes
but not cute... Shinobu is cute, Su (when she wants to be) is cute, but not Naru
Agressive and tenacious, yes... but that's not really CUTE cute

Legacy|]And with Naru's character the way it is said:
Now I will say that yes, women are perfect, I also have problems with. Belldandy, as much as I love her personally, is just too perfect for some fool like Keiichi.
Belldandy, she's perfect alright... tho with recent episodes in the manga by Fukushima and how she's been portrayed in the anime, she's beginning to loose a little of that perfection and turning into a more 'normal' loving and caring woman; although under NO circumstance should you make her jealous and/or give her a six pack of coca cola (recipie for trouble XD)

Kei pairings? well as many fan know... Naru's the one that wins in the end; but as fandom goes we get to enjoy stories of our favorite possible couples, why? because we empathize with (or just plain like) a different character more than the one selected cannon. (me? Kei/Moto, Kei/Kit :wub: )

[/my $0.02]
 

Legacy|iB

Well-Known Member
#83
Well, that's according to Akamatsu when he put together Naru's character. Apparently, she lacked attractiveness at the start, and making her upset and angry put a bit of character into her. In some way, there is something as basic and small like a child inside Naru, or so I'm tempted to think. Something basic enough that makes her resort to punching people, I suppose.

It could also be due to the whole 'you're cute when you're angry' sort of thing as well. That's what I'm getting as Akamatsu's reasoning for making Naru the way she is. But come on, it's a harem anime. Nobody's actually getting hurt in the end.

Interestingly, we never actually see Keitaro complain. If we're on the topic of why a character is the way they are, I'm more interesting in asking that question about him than why Naru continues to beat him up.
 

GenocideHeart

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#84
[quote="Legacy|]Well, that's according to Akamatsu when he put together Naru's character. Apparently, she lacked attractiveness at the start, and making her upset and angry put a bit of character into her. In some way, there is something as basic and small like a child inside Naru, or so I'm tempted to think. Something basic enough that makes her resort to punching people, I suppose.

It could also be due to the whole 'you're cute when you're angry' sort of thing as well. That's what I'm getting as Akamatsu's reasoning for making Naru the way she is. But come on, it's a harem anime. Nobody's actually getting hurt in the end.

Interestingly, we never actually see Keitaro complain. If we're on the topic of why a character is the way they are, I'm more interesting in asking that question about him than why Naru continues to beat him up.[/quote]
Um. Keitaro flat out states he LIKES to get hit by her later on... IE, he's a closet masochist. That's the (very lame) explanation Akamatsu churned out to try and justify the couple... even he must have realized that Keitaro risked coming across as a retard by choosing such an abusive broad over Mutsumi.

Too bad the explanation reeked of lameness several miles away...

That, and he's simply too nice to protest in the beginning. Or too much of a wimp, your pick.
 

SimmyC

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#85
I think he does protest in the beginning. He just comes crawling back to her by some lame 'coincidences' that prove that they were meant to be together. That and for some bizarre reason, everyone else in the house seems to think they are just 'perfect' for each other. Well, after they accepting him into their little Hinata Sou family of course. <_<
 

EagleCeres

Well-Known Member
#86
GenocideHeart said:
Um. Keitaro flat out states he LIKES to get hit by her later on... IE, he's a closet masochist. That's the (very lame) explanation Akamatsu churned out to try and justify the couple... even he must have realized that Keitaro risked coming across as a retard by choosing such an abusive broad over Mutsumi.

Too bad the explanation reeked of lameness several miles away...

That, and he's simply too nice to protest in the beginning. Or too much of a wimp, your pick.
yes, very LAME explanation... it failed

I think it was more of a "ok im used to it... she'll never change so i'll put up with it" defeatist attitude.... tho yes Mutsumi would have been the better option, or Motoko once she embraced her femininity, Shinobu once she was old enough... the list goes on XD

SimmyC said:
I think he does protest in the beginning. He just comes crawling back to her by some lame 'coincidences' that prove that they were meant to be together. That and for some bizarre reason, everyone else in the house seems to think they are just 'perfect' for each other. Well, after they accepting him into their little Hinata Sou family of course.á
And even then, toward the end of the manga <spoiler> grandma hina tells him his promised girl is by his side, and the scene changes and all the girls are there surrounding him and Naru, all asking "is it me?"</spoiler> so you still cant say he's convinced of the promised girl, tho i will not deny that he has been accepted into the family... who's husband tho? i think the collective jury is still out on that one (for those that wont accept the wedding epilogue that is :p )
 

Terdwilicker

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#88
Chapter 5 of GWH Kei is up in the Lemon section. I'm up to 25 pages so far. I deal specifically with the Promise Girl issue raised here. Read and comment.
 

Wonderbee31

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#89
Wow, with all this here, just to say my 2 bits, I also find myself agreeing with the majority. Naru has a lot of potential, but I'd say that with the last shot, right at the wedding, that destroyed everything that I might have felt for her. Like Akane, I don't believe she'll ever get over her attitude,a nd think that her tendecies might cross over to the kids. Heck, if they had any, I'd hate to think how it might affect them to see Daddy get the hell beaten out of him, on a regular basis.
 

Israfel

Well-Known Member
#90
Meh, if there was any justice in the world then here's how it would have worked out: Naru would have revealed, to no ones astonishment, that she was a (militant) lesbian and her lust for Kitsune, Keitaro, learning of Molmol's polygamy laws, would marry Su and thus subsequently marry Motoko, who's family would be pleased with her for gaining them such a powerful ally, Shinobu, who'd be happy to have finally achieved her dream, and Kitsune, who'd be happy to just have a nice guy who will support her. Leaving Naru out in the cold. And that's how it should have gone down.
 

Alzrius

Well-Known Member
#91
EagleCeres said:
Belldandy, she's perfect alright... tho with recent episodes in the manga by Fukushima and how she's been portrayed in the anime, she's beginning to loose a little of that perfection and turning into a more 'normal' loving and caring woman; although under NO circumstance should you make her jealous and/or give her a six pack of coca cola (recipie for trouble XD)
I haven't read the recent manga, or seen much of the TV anime, but that aside, I really don't like Belldandy all that much. Her perfection comes off as annoying holier-than-thou-ness (though that probably says more about me than her). I've got an AMG (dark)fic in the works where I really punish her for that, and not in a pleasant way.
 

EagleCeres

Well-Known Member
#92
Israfel said:
Meh, if there was any justice in the world then here's how it would have worked out: Naru would have revealed, to no ones astonishment, that she was a (militant) lesbian and her lust for Kitsune, Keitaro, learning of Molmol's polygamy laws, would marry Su and thus subsequently marry Motoko, who's family would be pleased with her for gaining them such a powerful ally, Shinobu, who'd be happy to have finally achieved her dream, and Kitsune, who'd be happy to just have a nice guy who will support her. Leaving Naru out in the cold. And that's how it should have gone down.
you forgot the watermelon princess...
if she can get some Ronin lovins, even if she has to share, she will! ^_^
 

SimmyC

Well-Known Member
#93
Alizus,
So you like darkfic AMGs right? Or at least a fic where Belldandy ISN'T perfect? :p Try Zentrodie's "Fallible" where Belldandy, makes one mistakes, changes everything! You could find it in the "Recommanded Fanfiction" thread on the first page. ^_^

And yeah, I mean, I like Belldandy personally (Belldandy/SimmyC? :wub: *Everyone else towards SimmyC* :lol: :rofl: :flameon: :lol: *Moron returns to reality* :blue: ) just not the way she is protrayed necessarily in AMG. She pretty much the other extreme of relationships where she's TOO perfect and wonderful (besides her fits of jealously that could be very dangerous to anyone around her). While I will ALWAYS prefer her to an Akane or Naru, I still tend to go with the alternatives when say, I'm writing a fanfic (Keiichi/Urd? Keiichi/Skuld? Keiichi/Chihiro? Keiichi/Peorth? Keiichi/Rind? :wub: ).
 

GenocideHeart

Well-Known Member
#94
Keiichi/Megumi!

*is shot repeatedly*

:help:

But seriously... I'd actually LIKE to read a well-done Keiichi/Megumi fic. Even though they're siblings. In a sense, they complement each other...
 

SimmyC

Well-Known Member
#95
:snigger: Yes. I would like a Keiichi/Megumi fic too. And even, I know that they are siblings, hell, related even (unlike Kanako/Keitaro).

But...

NOT BY SATAN JUNIOR NO SUPER HENTAI! Super suck is what I think of him. :angry:
 

Moshulel

Well-Known Member
#96
Keiichi/Megumi!
:headbanger:

You incest lovers... :p

Before Megumi you should remember that there are still TONS of unused AMG girls to pair Keiichi with (the fics that are there already don't count as most of them ar BAD)

By the way reffering to Megumi, i would like to see a Ranma/Megumi pairing, since she'll have "divine" protection from the fiancees. :snigger:
 

GenocideHeart

Well-Known Member
#97
SimmyC said:
:snigger: Yes. I would like a Keiichi/Megumi fic too. And even, I know that they are siblings, hell, related even (unlike Kanako/Keitaro).

But...

NOT BY SATAN JUNIOR NO SUPER HENTAI! Super suck is what I think of him. :angry:
Then tell him he sucks. Quit trying to not hurt his feelings when he's guilty of repeated character rape. Goddamn, Simmy, you're too nice for your own good.
 

SimmyC

Well-Known Member
#98
Yeah I know. Sort of the same deal with Mosh and his supposed 'flames'. Just too good for my own self. -_-

Getting off the topic a bit, I guess one pairing that hasn't been done before... Keiichi/The Queen (remember the motorcycle woman who Megumi beat?). :p She apparently never got a name.
 

Moshulel

Well-Known Member
#99
GenocideHeart said:
SimmyC said:
:snigger: Yes. I would like a Keiichi/Megumi fic too. And even, I know that they are siblings, hell, related even (unlike Kanako/Keitaro).

But...

NOT BY SATAN JUNIOR NO SUPER HENTAI! Super suck is what I think of him.? :angry:
Then tell him he sucks. Quit trying to not hurt his feelings when he's guilty of repeated character rape. Goddamn, Simmy, you're too nice for your own good.
We know that, he knows that and it seems a lot of people know that. <_<

Heh, go into Orochi's riot Simmy, show us what anger is. :p

OK enough with the cheering...

Reffering to violent mains: Mahoraba

The lead girl was actually nice, until the main character lost his body trying to save her. :sweat: Afterwards she developed an Akane syndrom. :sweat:
 

Israfel

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Yes. I would like a Keiichi/Megumi fic too. And even, I know that they are siblings, hell, related even (unlike Kanako/Keitaro).

But...

NOT BY SATAN JUNIOR NO SUPER HENTAI! Super suck is what I think of him.
You incest lovers...

Before Megumi you should remember that there are still TONS of unused AMG girls to pair Keiichi with (the fics that are there already don't count as most of them ar BAD)

By the way reffering to Megumi, i would like to see a Ranma/Megumi pairing, since she'll have "divine" protection from the fiancees.
Pah, incest is always the best crack pairing you can do, I've looked for some good K1/Megu stuff before but have yet to find anything, sadly enough. But still, incest is always best, nothing else could possibly top its awesomeness.
 
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