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It's pretty obvious that's deliberate. He's definitely grown more mature since the first season. He's still a blunt instrument for the most part and not an adult by any means, but he's definitely matured some. Especially regarding how he interacts with the Princesses, but also in other areas to a lesser degree.
That said, Bubblegum is a huge bitch. She's basically a Necromancer and is pretty much Lawful Evil. She didn't seem that bad initially, but has gotten worse as the show has progressed. Flashbacks have shown that her bitch tendencies go back a long ways.
Finn mostly getting over her is good for him in the long run. She's a cold manipulative sociopath who gets away with it because she's pretty and ruling over a bunch of barely sentient morons. The show keeps trying to pass her off as good for some reason though.
I mean, she made Lemongrab and put him in a position of power, and left him in that position when his issues were clearly a dangerous problem. She caused two zombie outbreaks, attacked the Fire Kingdom with Ice King's help in order to infiltrate and disarm them causing several deaths in the process, and her right hand man is a straight up black wizard. Considering her spying habits, I don't believe for a moment that she's not aware of that. It's more likely she simply ignores it as he seems loyal, which only supports that she's Lawful Evil.
I don't see Finn's relationship with her ending well. Sooner or later they're going to end up butting heads because her nature doesn't mesh with his heroic tendencies. Sooner or later she's going to try and get him to do something that he believes is wrong, and when he realizes that it's wrong and refuses she's going to stab him in the back. It would be epic and appropriate if she was the villain in the final season when they get to it.
That said, Bubblegum is a huge bitch. She's basically a Necromancer and is pretty much Lawful Evil. She didn't seem that bad initially, but has gotten worse as the show has progressed. Flashbacks have shown that her bitch tendencies go back a long ways.
Finn mostly getting over her is good for him in the long run. She's a cold manipulative sociopath who gets away with it because she's pretty and ruling over a bunch of barely sentient morons. The show keeps trying to pass her off as good for some reason though.
I mean, she made Lemongrab and put him in a position of power, and left him in that position when his issues were clearly a dangerous problem. She caused two zombie outbreaks, attacked the Fire Kingdom with Ice King's help in order to infiltrate and disarm them causing several deaths in the process, and her right hand man is a straight up black wizard. Considering her spying habits, I don't believe for a moment that she's not aware of that. It's more likely she simply ignores it as he seems loyal, which only supports that she's Lawful Evil.
I don't see Finn's relationship with her ending well. Sooner or later they're going to end up butting heads because her nature doesn't mesh with his heroic tendencies. Sooner or later she's going to try and get him to do something that he believes is wrong, and when he realizes that it's wrong and refuses she's going to stab him in the back. It would be epic and appropriate if she was the villain in the final season when they get to it.
I'm not really sure what happened here but kudos to Finn I guess.
Did his hero thing and saved LG. But I do have to wonder about the 3 images.
The first was to be with the girl he spurned and still has feelings for.
The second was more of a home family feel with people who care about him. Finn cakes too.
The third...man that sequence was trippy. But when he ran on his arm, I was kinda hoping to see grass sword appear.
It was a good ep overall but has left me confused.
Did his hero thing and saved LG. But I do have to wonder about the 3 images.
The first was to be with the girl he spurned and still has feelings for.
The second was more of a home family feel with people who care about him. Finn cakes too.
The third...man that sequence was trippy. But when he ran on his arm, I was kinda hoping to see grass sword appear.
It was a good ep overall but has left me confused.
I will say this, after PB's adventures in the Fire Kingdom she made an attempt to better herself. She ended her spying program, and allowed her people to govern themselves for a little while (though it ended in comedic disaster) so her current Alignment is 'Unknown' until I see where she takes this change.
I wonder how much the Dark Knight had to do with that scene?
Also, I bet she ends up fixing that room sooner or later when something happens that she views as something she could have prevented by spying. All she really did was cut some wires. It might not even take that much as she seems like a voyeurism addict in earlier episodes.
She may get better about that, but that doesn't change the fact that she's manipulative, cold, and that she has necromancer tendencies. She grew her people, and has a habit of messing with the dead. I also suspect that her long term plans include ruling all of Ooo at some point.
Even if she is trying to improve and be more trusting, she's still pretty much Lawful Evil.
Fire Princess on the other hand seems to be chaotic good. Most of the other princesses are neutral or lean towards lawful good.
Marceline is straight up neutral. She's the daughter of a demon and a vampire and it's implied she's done some unpleasant things on a whim before, but it's also implied that she prefers to not be a nasty evil type most of the time. Ironically this seems to be due to her relationship to Ice King/Simon.
Ice King is chaotic neutral. He tends to swing both ways and isn't really malicious most of the time. He's pathetic, but insane and mostly trying to be friendly until he's upset.
Finn is Lawful Good of course, but Jake seems pretty neutral. Most of the good he does is because of his relationship with Finn. He's a lot more likely to just let things happen and not care much.
Finn's dad is obviously chaotic evil. He leaves a mess in his wake wherever he goes.
I do wonder if Sweatpea/the Litch don't end up being Chaotic Good. I don't know if the Litch will go back to being Chaotic Evil again after being raised and having a family for a while. The fact that he didn't just kill the King of Ooo after what he pulled seems to indicate that is possible.
I wonder if the Lich is going to end up doing something heroic and save Finn and Jake, and maybe all of Ooo in the end. Another possibility is that he goes on a rampage, but then has a last minute change of heart when he realizes Treetrunks and Mr. Pig are in danger.
Also, I bet she ends up fixing that room sooner or later when something happens that she views as something she could have prevented by spying. All she really did was cut some wires. It might not even take that much as she seems like a voyeurism addict in earlier episodes.
She may get better about that, but that doesn't change the fact that she's manipulative, cold, and that she has necromancer tendencies. She grew her people, and has a habit of messing with the dead. I also suspect that her long term plans include ruling all of Ooo at some point.
Even if she is trying to improve and be more trusting, she's still pretty much Lawful Evil.
Fire Princess on the other hand seems to be chaotic good. Most of the other princesses are neutral or lean towards lawful good.
Marceline is straight up neutral. She's the daughter of a demon and a vampire and it's implied she's done some unpleasant things on a whim before, but it's also implied that she prefers to not be a nasty evil type most of the time. Ironically this seems to be due to her relationship to Ice King/Simon.
Ice King is chaotic neutral. He tends to swing both ways and isn't really malicious most of the time. He's pathetic, but insane and mostly trying to be friendly until he's upset.
Finn is Lawful Good of course, but Jake seems pretty neutral. Most of the good he does is because of his relationship with Finn. He's a lot more likely to just let things happen and not care much.
Finn's dad is obviously chaotic evil. He leaves a mess in his wake wherever he goes.
I do wonder if Sweatpea/the Litch don't end up being Chaotic Good. I don't know if the Litch will go back to being Chaotic Evil again after being raised and having a family for a while. The fact that he didn't just kill the King of Ooo after what he pulled seems to indicate that is possible.
I wonder if the Lich is going to end up doing something heroic and save Finn and Jake, and maybe all of Ooo in the end. Another possibility is that he goes on a rampage, but then has a last minute change of heart when he realizes Treetrunks and Mr. Pig are in danger.
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Perhaps, but if nothing else she's in good company.
On top of that, when she was confronted with it and was forced to acknowledge gratitude towards one, she refused to revoke the death warrant on the remaining Knight for no other reason than to not admit she was in error. She just forced him to live in the shadows as an agent of hers. I suspect the only reason the Knight survived is because she didn't want to upset Finn by killing him. He likely would have turned against her and would have been harder to manipulate in the future.
She'll probably be the biggest threat to Ooo one day. That won't happen for a while probably, but she's definitely well on her way down a bad road. I think she'd turn on Finn at the drop of a hat if she saw him as any kind of potential threat. He's currently her most effective agent, but she'd drop him like a hot potato in an instant if he became less useful to her.
Her limited reaction to Cinnamon Bun leaving her to serve Fire Princess is also pretty telling. He was one of her closest servants, an idiot to be sure, but he wasn't just one of the candy people living in her kingdom. She spent a lot of time around him. She didn't seem to care much at all that she'd lost one of her closest servants to another Princess. It barely seemed like she knew he was even gone. The only thing Fire Princess did to gain his loyalty was be nice to him. On top of that, she used him to spy on her without his knowledge. That's pretty cold.
There's also the issue that Finn is the lynchpin that could cause several problems for her if she acted against him is any significant way. His reputation as a hero is well known and he has ties of friendship with the Flame Kingdom through FP, Ice Kingdom through Simon (who has shown concern for Finn's safety despite his own insanity), Lumpy Space through LSP, several minor kingdoms through their princesses, Marceline, and even Hunson Abadeer has been said to like him do you add the whole Nightosphere to that list. Never mind the connection he and Jake have to Prismo, and through him, the Cosmic Owl. Hurting Finn in any significant way could end up with a force coming together that PB is not equipped to handle and she's smart enough to know it.
Plus, FP still has feelings for Finn. She did agree to be friends with him and told him to visit her. They've broken up, and Finn has trouble with that, but it wasn't really a bad break up. They still like each other, and I can easily see FP coming to Finn's aid if she thinks he's in serious trouble. He's the one still broken up over her dumping him. She seems pretty okay about it all and doesn't seem to be upset with him. None of the princesses seem to think anything of the incident, aside from Finn being more available.
FP's got no love for PBG at that. She barely backed off of going to war with her when she attacked her kingdom. She seemed to think it wasn't worth the consequences, but would have been completely in the right after what PBG pulled.
Got to agree about the Breezy incident. None of the princesses seem serious, and all seem to get along well with him after the fact. None of them really got upset with how he behaved. He essentially just went on a few dates and never committed to anything. The only one he ended up hurting was Breezy, and she forgave him in the end.
Breezy herself was more interested in the flower on his arm than him. I got the impression she was trying to marry him to be with the flower more than she was interested in Finn himself. At the least she found it to be the most attractive part of him, kind of like a guy seeing a girl with a great ass or a nice pair of boobs.
The only princess I know of that actually dislikes Finn is Wildberry Princess. She tried to execute them both. He's banished from her kingdom on pain of death. Though, honestly that was mostly Jake's fault, Finn really didn't do anything there and even asked Jake to stop. Wildberry Princess blamed both of them for what happened though. A letter of apology would forgive the crimes and they would be allowed to return. As I recall they decided to write the letter and to never return to the Wildberry kingdom regardless.
The assassin incident probably didn't help matters. It turned out all right, but Wildberry Princess ended up needing a hospital when it was over.
FP's got no love for PBG at that. She barely backed off of going to war with her when she attacked her kingdom. She seemed to think it wasn't worth the consequences, but would have been completely in the right after what PBG pulled.
Got to agree about the Breezy incident. None of the princesses seem serious, and all seem to get along well with him after the fact. None of them really got upset with how he behaved. He essentially just went on a few dates and never committed to anything. The only one he ended up hurting was Breezy, and she forgave him in the end.
Breezy herself was more interested in the flower on his arm than him. I got the impression she was trying to marry him to be with the flower more than she was interested in Finn himself. At the least she found it to be the most attractive part of him, kind of like a guy seeing a girl with a great ass or a nice pair of boobs.
The only princess I know of that actually dislikes Finn is Wildberry Princess. She tried to execute them both. He's banished from her kingdom on pain of death. Though, honestly that was mostly Jake's fault, Finn really didn't do anything there and even asked Jake to stop. Wildberry Princess blamed both of them for what happened though. A letter of apology would forgive the crimes and they would be allowed to return. As I recall they decided to write the letter and to never return to the Wildberry kingdom regardless.
The assassin incident probably didn't help matters. It turned out all right, but Wildberry Princess ended up needing a hospital when it was over.
Meh, if I was PB I'd be more worried about Ice King, FP, and Marceline than anyone else. Any one of them could be dangerous. All three banded together because she decided to harm Finn? Game over. And that's before considering what Hunson Abadeer would do if he got wind of everything.
Actually, picture an escalating war. PB does something unforgivable to Finn, I leave it for you to decide what. FP gets ready to go to war because she still care for Finn even if she's not "with" him anymore but Marceline wants to get Bonnibell's side of the story before getting too involved. She does, sees PB is in the wrong and tells her so, only to have PB attack and hurt her in the process. That, in turn, sets off Ice King and Hunson both. Now PB is facing a three front war with three leader each comparable to her in overall power. And I'd argue if Simon wasn't more than half crazy from the Crown and could use Evergreen's power without the personality imprint that he'd be far more Powerful that PB could handle alone. Hunson is really overkill at that point.
Actually, picture an escalating war. PB does something unforgivable to Finn, I leave it for you to decide what. FP gets ready to go to war because she still care for Finn even if she's not "with" him anymore but Marceline wants to get Bonnibell's side of the story before getting too involved. She does, sees PB is in the wrong and tells her so, only to have PB attack and hurt her in the process. That, in turn, sets off Ice King and Hunson both. Now PB is facing a three front war with three leader each comparable to her in overall power. And I'd argue if Simon wasn't more than half crazy from the Crown and could use Evergreen's power without the personality imprint that he'd be far more Powerful that PB could handle alone. Hunson is really overkill at that point.
That's true, and I think most of the princesses with the exception of Fire Princess would stay out of it anyway. Most of them like Finn enough they wouldn't act against him, but they also wouldn't want to cross PBG.
The other kingdoms would most likely offer political support for one side or the other, but remain neutral as far as actual action goes. That is, unless PBG does something incredibly awful and is clearly a danger to Ooo as a whole.
Honestly, I think a lot of the Princesses would side with Bubblegum just because she's a princess. They might view action against her as a threat to their own positions. Most of the Kingdoms wouldn't want the idea that it's okay to oppose a princess getting into anyone's head. Finn would probably not be welcome within their kingdoms, but as long as he wasn't squatting on their doorsteps they'd probably leave him alone and let PBG deal with it herself. Even if he was in their kingdoms, they'd probably give him a chance to leave and tell him he's banished until the mess is over rather than outright arrest him.
Lumpy Space Princess would definitely side with Finn. Probably on her own without any actual support from Lumpy Space itself though.
I'm willing to bet Marceline would stay out of it unless Ice King got involved. I doubt she'd attack Bubblegum, though she might side with Finn in an argument, she likely would try to get him to run away rather than fight with him against PBG. If it was putting Simon in danger though, it would be on. Finn and PBG are both friends of hers, but she thinks of Ice King as family.
In all honestly, I don't think Hunson would care. He's not that kind of guy. I agree that he kind of likes Finn, but only as one of his daughter's friends. I don't see him going out of his way to side with Finn in something like this. The Nightosphere would pretty much ignore any such conflict.
I don't see Hunson being a factor in something like that at all. It doesn't fit his character, and while he likes Finn, he's not one of his buddies either. I don't see him doing Finn any favors, except maybe cutting him a break on eternal torment or making the twist in a demonic deal suck slightly less. He wouldn't go out of his way to protect him, that's for sure.
Now, if something bad happened to Marceline, then we're looking at him maybe getting involved. Even then I'm not so sure, because she'd pretty much just end up back home again if she was killed. It would have to be one of those "worse than death" things.
The other kingdoms would most likely offer political support for one side or the other, but remain neutral as far as actual action goes. That is, unless PBG does something incredibly awful and is clearly a danger to Ooo as a whole.
Honestly, I think a lot of the Princesses would side with Bubblegum just because she's a princess. They might view action against her as a threat to their own positions. Most of the Kingdoms wouldn't want the idea that it's okay to oppose a princess getting into anyone's head. Finn would probably not be welcome within their kingdoms, but as long as he wasn't squatting on their doorsteps they'd probably leave him alone and let PBG deal with it herself. Even if he was in their kingdoms, they'd probably give him a chance to leave and tell him he's banished until the mess is over rather than outright arrest him.
Lumpy Space Princess would definitely side with Finn. Probably on her own without any actual support from Lumpy Space itself though.
I'm willing to bet Marceline would stay out of it unless Ice King got involved. I doubt she'd attack Bubblegum, though she might side with Finn in an argument, she likely would try to get him to run away rather than fight with him against PBG. If it was putting Simon in danger though, it would be on. Finn and PBG are both friends of hers, but she thinks of Ice King as family.
In all honestly, I don't think Hunson would care. He's not that kind of guy. I agree that he kind of likes Finn, but only as one of his daughter's friends. I don't see him going out of his way to side with Finn in something like this. The Nightosphere would pretty much ignore any such conflict.
I don't see Hunson being a factor in something like that at all. It doesn't fit his character, and while he likes Finn, he's not one of his buddies either. I don't see him doing Finn any favors, except maybe cutting him a break on eternal torment or making the twist in a demonic deal suck slightly less. He wouldn't go out of his way to protect him, that's for sure.
Now, if something bad happened to Marceline, then we're looking at him maybe getting involved. Even then I'm not so sure, because she'd pretty much just end up back home again if she was killed. It would have to be one of those "worse than death" things.
Well keep in mind that Hunson has had a few revelations about what a crappy father he has been toward Marceline and has shown he's at least interested in making amends. For this to spiral this far out of control I would think PB would have to do something so bad that Finn would be out of commission for a serious amount of time. Something that could get Jake literally frothing mad at her and trying to rally anyone he can to Finn's aid. That's where I figure Marceline would confront PB, not to attack her per se, but to call her on her bullshit. The only problem is that if PB goes that far off the rails I figure she would take Marceline down hard as a pre-emptive strike. That, in turn sets off Ice King because even in his addled mind he cares for Marceline and seems genuinely fond of Finn and Jake. FP was already on the brink of going after PB and hurting Finn would just be the final straw.
Actually Jake might bring more to the table than anyone suspects in this. I mean he's tight with Prismo, who now literally owes Finn his life. And Jake's the father to a litter of varied mini-cosmic horrors with Lady Rainicorn. Mini cosmic horrors that would all see Finn a their Uncle.
Yeah Hunson getting upset at PB daring to upset and harm his daughter might really be overkill there. Which again, PB is smart enough to understand and thus would not end up attacking Finn.
Actually Jake might bring more to the table than anyone suspects in this. I mean he's tight with Prismo, who now literally owes Finn his life. And Jake's the father to a litter of varied mini-cosmic horrors with Lady Rainicorn. Mini cosmic horrors that would all see Finn a their Uncle.
Yeah Hunson getting upset at PB daring to upset and harm his daughter might really be overkill there. Which again, PB is smart enough to understand and thus would not end up attacking Finn.
I doubt Bubblegum would preemptively strike Marceline. Ice King maybe, but not Marceline. She likes her and would likely let her say her piece and let her go with a warning that she'll take her down if she gets in her way.
Plus, as I said, I don't see Marceline taking sides in this unless she has a personal stake in it, as in something like Simon being in immediate danger. I doubt she'd bother if he was just going to get beat up, but if she thought PBG might kill him, she'd probably step in. I don't see anything less motivating her into a conflict between PBG and Finn. She'd likely try to talk PBG out of it, and if she failed she'd just get mad and leave while washing her hands of the matter. She might even help Finn indirectly, providing intel or advice. Being friends with Finn wouldn't be enough to get her to work against PBG directly. I really see her staying out of it just like the other Princesses would. Of course with the exception of Fire Princess and possibly LSP.
I could see Marceline saving Finn and Jake from PBG by swooping in to carry them away from being killed or imprisoned by her, but not actively fighting against her. Not without serious motivation, such as the end of Ooo or Simon's life being threatened.
I seriously think LSP would side with Finn. If only so she can be cool and rebellious, and work against the system and authority, like her parents, and she'd probably end up being mostly useless. She's probably the only Princess that is really an actual friend to Finn and Jake and willing to just hang out with them. All the other princesses seem more aloof, use them as mercenaries, or view Finn as a potential suitor. Well, aside from Marceline anyway, she's also pretty cool with fin and an actual friend of his as well.
Marceline would probably take Finn's side on the moral side of the issue. I really see it as causing an argument between her and PBG, and maybe breaking off friendly relations between them, but not going to the point of an actual battle unless PBG starts it, or deliberately antagonizes her into attacking to pull her into a trap. If she did, she'd probably take her by surprise and neutralize Marceline without killing her and imprison her somehow. I could even see her cutting a deal with Hunson and banishing her into the Nightosphere, possibly with the help of Peppermint Butler.
As for Hunson, I don't think he has the empathy to look out for Marceline's friends that way. I think he does want to make his daughter happy, and also that he doesn't exactly know how to go about that. I really don't see him getting involved unless Marceline is facing something worse than death. The fact that he likes Finn more than other mortals doesn't mean that he's friends with him. His attitude towards Finn seem to be in proxy to Marceline, and the fact that the kid had the balls to face him down.
Plus, as I said, I don't see Marceline taking sides in this unless she has a personal stake in it, as in something like Simon being in immediate danger. I doubt she'd bother if he was just going to get beat up, but if she thought PBG might kill him, she'd probably step in. I don't see anything less motivating her into a conflict between PBG and Finn. She'd likely try to talk PBG out of it, and if she failed she'd just get mad and leave while washing her hands of the matter. She might even help Finn indirectly, providing intel or advice. Being friends with Finn wouldn't be enough to get her to work against PBG directly. I really see her staying out of it just like the other Princesses would. Of course with the exception of Fire Princess and possibly LSP.
I could see Marceline saving Finn and Jake from PBG by swooping in to carry them away from being killed or imprisoned by her, but not actively fighting against her. Not without serious motivation, such as the end of Ooo or Simon's life being threatened.
I seriously think LSP would side with Finn. If only so she can be cool and rebellious, and work against the system and authority, like her parents, and she'd probably end up being mostly useless. She's probably the only Princess that is really an actual friend to Finn and Jake and willing to just hang out with them. All the other princesses seem more aloof, use them as mercenaries, or view Finn as a potential suitor. Well, aside from Marceline anyway, she's also pretty cool with fin and an actual friend of his as well.
Marceline would probably take Finn's side on the moral side of the issue. I really see it as causing an argument between her and PBG, and maybe breaking off friendly relations between them, but not going to the point of an actual battle unless PBG starts it, or deliberately antagonizes her into attacking to pull her into a trap. If she did, she'd probably take her by surprise and neutralize Marceline without killing her and imprison her somehow. I could even see her cutting a deal with Hunson and banishing her into the Nightosphere, possibly with the help of Peppermint Butler.
As for Hunson, I don't think he has the empathy to look out for Marceline's friends that way. I think he does want to make his daughter happy, and also that he doesn't exactly know how to go about that. I really don't see him getting involved unless Marceline is facing something worse than death. The fact that he likes Finn more than other mortals doesn't mean that he's friends with him. His attitude towards Finn seem to be in proxy to Marceline, and the fact that the kid had the balls to face him down.
Dark Purple.....spoilers ahead.
It's official...Susan is a Human....and has an implant in her head. Also....if she's not related to Finn I will be VERY surprised.
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I will admit...I WANT Susan to be Finn's mom...just to see the Princesses that are interested in him, attempting to curry her favor....
It's official...Susan is a Human....and has an implant in her head. Also....if she's not related to Finn I will be VERY surprised.
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I will admit...I WANT Susan to be Finn's mom...just to see the Princesses that are interested in him, attempting to curry her favor....
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Dark Purple.....spoilers ahead.
It's official...Susan is a Human....and has an implant in her head. Also....if she's not related to Finn I will be VERY surprised.
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I will admit...I WANT Susan to be Finn's mom...just to see the Princesses that are interested in him, attempting to curry her favor....
It's official...Susan is a Human....and has an implant in her head. Also....if she's not related to Finn I will be VERY surprised.
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I will admit...I WANT Susan to be Finn's mom...just to see the Princesses that are interested in him, attempting to curry her favor....
Which makes me wonder even more just how dangerous Martin really is because I don't think he would have been seducing Susan and he could be the source of that implant. Granted, the original storyboards had him getting trapped in the Citadel accidentally but they might have been retconned out at this point since they never made it on the air.
The show gets pretty dark, but I don't see them going the rape route for a kids show. Not even even implied.
She's not terribly bright and I could see Martin seducing her easily. Finn is wise to him, but he's pretty good at talking otherwise. He's got high charisma and speech bonuses in RPG terms. His Luck stat seems low though.
Another possibility is that she's not Finn's mom, but maybe an older sister. She's definitely related somehow, and I suspect "Mom" is most likely.
She's not terribly bright and I could see Martin seducing her easily. Finn is wise to him, but he's pretty good at talking otherwise. He's got high charisma and speech bonuses in RPG terms. His Luck stat seems low though.
Another possibility is that she's not Finn's mom, but maybe an older sister. She's definitely related somehow, and I suspect "Mom" is most likely.
Well, shave my ass and call me Sexy... (Okay, forget that first part. Definitely do the second.)
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Yeah. No. Not the same thing.
First of all, we don't know that Marceline is sexually active. She's undead. Plus, I also got the impression that the guy wasn't there long enough to do anything. Living together or not, it didn't seem implied that they ever had a sexual relationship beyond maybe some making out. I don't buy her having sex at all to be honest. She's a vampire. Her living with that guy is probably some Anne Rice level shit where they just live together and be all romantic and possessive of each other without ever actually having sex.
Marceline would have completely lost her shit on the guy if such a thing did happen. More so than the show suggests. She kicks him out, but if he had done such a thing I'm pretty sure he'd have ended up in much worse shape than he did. I don't see her taking that sort of thing so easily as she does when she kicks him out.
You could infer a rape if you really went out on limb there and assumed an awful lot. No kid, not even an older kid, is going to do that.
The situation we're talking about with Finn's Dad and Susan is a lot darker and more direct. Not the sort of thing you can gloss over for a kid's show.
Plus, I really don't see Finn's dad doing that. He's a destructive jerk, but he has never seemed particularly violent. Just manipulative and selfish. I see him talking a girl into bed maybe, but not raping one.
First of all, we don't know that Marceline is sexually active. She's undead. Plus, I also got the impression that the guy wasn't there long enough to do anything. Living together or not, it didn't seem implied that they ever had a sexual relationship beyond maybe some making out. I don't buy her having sex at all to be honest. She's a vampire. Her living with that guy is probably some Anne Rice level shit where they just live together and be all romantic and possessive of each other without ever actually having sex.
Marceline would have completely lost her shit on the guy if such a thing did happen. More so than the show suggests. She kicks him out, but if he had done such a thing I'm pretty sure he'd have ended up in much worse shape than he did. I don't see her taking that sort of thing so easily as she does when she kicks him out.
You could infer a rape if you really went out on limb there and assumed an awful lot. No kid, not even an older kid, is going to do that.
The situation we're talking about with Finn's Dad and Susan is a lot darker and more direct. Not the sort of thing you can gloss over for a kid's show.
Plus, I really don't see Finn's dad doing that. He's a destructive jerk, but he has never seemed particularly violent. Just manipulative and selfish. I see him talking a girl into bed maybe, but not raping one.