Nasuverse Alternate Servant Classes

Prince Charon

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#1
Apart from the seven Classes from F/sn, there are two alternates in other games: Avenger in F/ha, and Saver (Savior?) in F/E.

Since alternate classes are clearly possible, here's a thread for them, and for characters (historical, mythical, or fictional) that might fit into said classes - for example, the God-Emperor of Man (WH40K) as Servant Savior (False Savior, to be specific, unless he's not fictional in that timeline, which brings in a huge mess), as could Superman or Harry Potter, for slightly different reasons. Anyone who is regarded as a god in his/her legend, or seen as someone there to save 'everyone', qualifies for Class Savior, AFAICT, and thus most or all Saviors have Divinity, often at a high level. So, Jesus Christ, or any Buddah, would qualify as Saviors - its not limited to one religion. Demi-gods who became gods, such as Herakles, could fit. The Doctor could be called as Savior, or Savior (False). VelspertheCat did an awesome job of turning Rider Medusa into Saver/Savior Medusa.

Some alternative classes that have occurred to me:

Commander: Known in life and legend as a leader in battle. Nearly always has a mass summon Noble Phantasm, similar to Rider Iskander's Army of the King, but some can maintain it longer, or have warriors with a higher level of Independent Action. If Arturia Pendragon were summoned as a Commander, for example, she would be able to call forth the Knights of the Round Table, while King Leonidas of Sparta could call forth his 300 Spartans. Brigadier Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart would actually be quite threatening, if summoned in this class, despite being both a modern hero, and probably fictional, because calling forth UNIT means calling forth the Doctor - possibly all of him.

Defender: Those heroes who have a defensive Noble Phantasm as part of their legend, such as Ajax, the warrior for whom Rho Aias is named, or Siegfried (Sigurd), who wore the Tarnhelm. Herakles' God Hand could also qualify him. Captain America, Iron Man, Akemi Homura, and Wonder Woman are among the fictional characters who could fit.

Fighter: Heroic Spirits with great ability in unarmed combat, and/or with weapons that do not fit the knight classes, may be summoned in this class. Herakles, who among other things, wrestled the giant Antaeus, might be called as Fighter, as could Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris, and others. Kwai Chang Caine could also be summoned, though you'd have to decide if Caine is fictional in this timeline. Superman and Wonder Woman, along with many other superheroes, could be called as Fighters.

Thief: Those Heroic Spirits known for stealing, even if that was not the only focus of their legend, fall within this class. Like Assassin, they have the skill of Presence Concealment, but generally not to the same degree. Autolycus, son of the god Hermes, is the King of Thieves. Robin Hood and any of his better-known Merry Men can be summoned in this class. Arsene Lupin and Catwoman are among the probably-fictional members.

Wanderer: Also called Explorer, Walker, or Traveller, this is the class of heroes whose legends include a great deal of drifting from place to place, whether aimlessly, or with a purpose. Like Archers, they tend to have high Independent Action, even as secondary summons (i.e. Servants of a Servant). Sun Wu-Kong and Herakles both fit this class, but the Doctor could be called King of Wanderers, even when fictional. Many Wanderers can also fit the Rider class, but not all of them.


James Tiberius Kirk qualifies for, among others, Commander, Rider, and Wanderer.
 

Prince Charon

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#2
Had intended to let this die, since there were no replies, but it occurred to me that the other Class Skill of Servant Thief went unmentioned: Theft of Concept is the current name, though it may not be the best description. Its the ability to steal, in theory, anything. Someone with a high enough rank can steal and use other Servants' Noble Phantasms. Someone with a very high rank could steal Parameters and Skills, like Gilgamesh's Independent Action.

In theory, Autolycus, having A+ rank ToC, could steal the King's Treasure-House, and top it off with IA. The hard part is not getting caught...
 

ThySelf

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#3
Class: Beastman- A Hero who had ties to nature. Examples: Enduku and the Monkey King.
 

elof

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#4
Class Gangsta: Al Capone,Vongola Primo
 

nick012000

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#5
Prince Charon said:
Apart from the seven Classes from F/sn, there are two alternates in other games: <a href='http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Avenger_%28Fate/hollow_ataraxia%29' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Avenger</a> in F/ha, and <a href='http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Saver_%28Fate/Extra%29' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Saver (Savior?)</a> in F/E.
*snip*

Some alternative classes that have occurred to me:

Commander
Pseudo-canonically, there's also the Ruler class from Fate/Apocrypha.
 

jyusan

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#6
Class: Lover- Throughout history, legends have chronicled the skill, or lack thereof, that Heroes had in life had when it came to the art of pleasure. Those whom have become known for their beauty or ability in this area are ideal for the Lover class. Although their Noble Phantasms are often powerful and Charisma is increased by one rank, their stats are reduced in all areas except luck and endurance, and many Phantasms have strict activation conditions or reduced effects depending upon the enemy. If the summoned servant possesses Mystic Eyes, then the eyes' ability is increased.

Valeria Messalina, Julius Caesar, Alcibiades, Casanova, and the Senetrices Marozia and Theodora can be summoned under this class.

Although Vtsyyana, Iskandar, and Semiramis can all be summoned under this class, it would be detrimental to their abilities, as they would not benefit from the class, although in the case of Vtsyyana, it would be because the stat reduction would make him too physically weak to compete with other servants.
 
#7
Class Survivor: A class for the heroes who were once ordinary people with no great lineage, no previous training, no greater ambitions, who had greatness thrust onto them.
Class skills: Battle Continuation, Eye of the Mind
 

Wilder

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#8
Prince Charon said:
Defender: Those heroes who have a defensive Noble Phantasm as part of their legend, such as <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_%28mythology%29' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Ajax</a>, the warrior for whom <a href='http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Rho_Aias' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Rho Aias</a> is named, or Siegfried (Sigurd), who wore the Tarnhelm. Herakles' God Hand could also qualify him. Captain America, Iron Man, Akemi Homura, and Wonder Woman are among the fictional characters who could fit.
Ok that combo would just be outright obscenely difficult to beat, especially if Siegfried gets his Invincibility as a skill or NP.

Although Defender Siegfried vs Achilles would be amusing to watch.
 

Prince Charon

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#9
jyusan said:
Class: Lover-
Huh. That's an interesting concept. Would be very effective against some Servants, and very ineffective against others, but based on the individual Hero, not their Class.
 

jyusan

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#10
Prince Charon said:
jyusan said:
Class: Lover-
Huh. That's an interesting concept. Would be very effective against some Servants, and very ineffective against others, but based on the individual Hero, not their Class.
I tried to make it sound like the exact opposite of Berserker class.

From my admittedly shoddy knowledge of the Nasuverse, Mad Enhancement limits the skill and tactical ability of a Servant in exchange for large boosts to general stats, and often makes NPs weaker or even unusable.

Lover class would weaken the Servant's general stats, but allow full use of their original skills and NPs, as well as "Lover NPs", based on their legend as well, which would be relatively strong, but have almost oddly specific activation conditions or effects based on both the user and the enemy.

For example, Casanova would likely have a NP that can be activated only if his enemy is both female and is either barefoot or wearing open toed shoes. Alcibiades would have an NP that activates automatically if his opponent is married or was married at the time of their death. The Senetrices would be unable to use any of their "Lover NP" unless they are wearing only one religious symbol, and that symbol corresponds to the religion that their enemy practices.
 

Ura Mamoru

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#11
Didn't Fate/Extra mention a "Temptress" class?

As I recall, in it, Arcueid ended up inside the Moon Cell, and it catalogued her as that. Her master, however, mistook her for a Berserker and entered her as that, overriding her Temptress class. Sadly, the Mad Enhancement bestowed upon her by this resulted in her losing some of her abilities (including Original One, which would cause her stats to automatically trump those of her opponent).

At least from what I've read, a "Temptress" Servant would be a woman who casually ruins men the way blood-drinking races consume blood, or financial crises ruin money. It also said that Tamamo-no-Mae, the Caster you can choose to summon in Fate/Extra, also has an affinity for the class.


But what would fit a Temptress for battle?
 

lcpoketoon

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#12
The Artist, One who has spent their life seeking the perfection of their art and been brought too the Throne of Heroes.

Ex) Da'vinci, Ranma Saotome, Picasso.
 
#13
lcpoketoon said:
The Artist, One who has spent their life seeking the perfection of their art and been brought too the Throne of Heroes.

Ex) Da'vinci, Ranma Saotome, Picasso.
There's also Shakespeare, who is actually a canon servant.
 
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