Bleach Alternate Zanpakutos

trevelyan1983

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#76
Lord Raine said:
I flat-out reject this. If they had meant Lieutenant, they would have said Lieutenant. They didn't. They said "Seated Officer."

The most optimistic you can possibly be is to call her 3rd Seat material, and I would fight that tooth and nail. She's mid-range Officer material, not upper Officer material.
This is a good point. It would be a far better point if Captains and Lieutenants weren't also Seated Officers - First Seat and Second Seat, respectively. I'm sure you mentioned this, somewhere in this topic, even. Ought to pay more attention to the specifics of your argument, old boy. :p

It would be a good idea to accept Seats as guidelines, rather than absolute measurements.
 

Lord Raine

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#77
That would be a good counterargument, were it not for the fact that no one ever uses First or Second Seat as titles. That's how it's listed in the bureaucracy, not how the terms are used in practice. No one ever uses First and Second seat. It's always Captain and Lieutenant.

Again, if they had meant she was Lieutenant material, they would have said Lieutenant. They did not. They said she was Seated Officer material, which means the best you could possibly construe her as is Third Seat.

It would be a good idea to accept Seats as guidelines, rather than absolute measurements.
You should follow your own advice, old boy. I'm not the one using an archaic, highly technical definition of Captain and Lieutenant that no one in the series has ever used outside explaining how the system works on paper to a bunch of random strangers. :p
 

Nikas_Zekeval

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#78
DhampyrX2 said:
In all fairness, Isane is a medic and has never been shown as anything else, Olmeada is quite literally a nose picking buffoon there half for comic relief that is implied to have the job simply because he's a noble, and Ichigo is at least mid-captain class at that point.? I wouldn't expect most Lieutenants to be able to handle his hand to hand attacks when he can trade blows with Zaraki.? The better ones like Nemu and Rangiku possibly could deal withe? initial salvo.? Renji and Ikkaku definitely could ( I know he's a 3rd, but that's only by his own choice).? Still that just proves there is a LOT of room from top to bottom when it comes to being second in command of a squad.
I think that taking down three Lieutenants was at least a fair part of speed and surprise. He busted Olmeada's Shikai with a punch. Then Sasakibe is enough on the ball to get in an attack. But his Shikai is a sabre, a thrusting weapon and Ichigo is in close. He steps inside the arc of a weapon and takes his second Lieutenant out at short range. Possibly a variation of a bare handed knife disarming technique?

That leaves Isane still standing, shocked and just processing that her two fellow Lieutenants have been taken out. Ichigo gets her before she can get her mental feet under her, and gets her as well. Looking carefully the whole sequences happened so fast Isane is out of the fight before Olmeada hits the ground. He had all three Lieutenants in the air at the same time, indicating a high speed biltz attack.
 

The Eromancer

Well-Known Member
#79
Yaaaa, BACK on topic.



looked at this and thought to myself, "Duo would make for a GREAT zanpaktou if nothering else"
 

Herdo

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#80
I cast unholy awakening! Arise from the horrors of the forgotten! Let the rage flow in unstoppable might!

Yeah, a idea have been bothering me for a while and this thread was the closest one I could find.

The plot starts as canon. Fishbone D attacks the Kurosaki clinic, Rukia tries to stop it but fails, and as a last resort gives her powers to Ichigo, who gains Shinigami powers.

The catch? He don't get Zangetsu.

He gets a original zanpakutou, one that surprise him:

A pocket chainsaw (note, I am not talking about toys here, the pic is just to help with mental images)


Ichigo is shocked at getting a tiny little chainsaw and the hollow mocks him, they fight and Ichigo manages to win. He is disappointed but begins to work as a Substitute Shinigami, fighting weekly hollows, befriending the gang, all the canon stuff.

Then shit gets real due to Byakuya & Renji have arrived, arresting Rukia for treason, and Ichigo, trying to stop them is beaten brutally by Byakuya and gets saved in the last second by Urahara, who manages to barely make Byakuya & Renji retreat with Rukia back to Soul Society.

Urahara tells Ichigo that certain death awaits Rukia due to highly unstable political situation in Soul Society, which Ichigo completely ignores and asks desperately the man with the nice hat for power to save his friend Rukia.

Urahara reluctantly agrees to train Ichigo and after some quick haxxoring & cheating he teaches Ichigo Shikai.

Which looks like something similar to this:



Which has the ability like Gin's zanpakutou to lenghten and shorten but not as fast or as long as his can do.

So armed with his new shikai he and his merry gang of friends invade Soul Society. Which is in political chaos, due to threat of Baraggan & his army of hollows in Hueco Mundo + shitloads of treasons from various Shinigamis that all have their own reasons for that. Both Gin and Kenpachi I picture belong in this criminal group for their liking of killing others.

So Ichigo and his merry friends run around in Soul Society, trying to find Rukia while beating various mooks. When they take a rest in a bar, they meet Gin (who they have no idea who he is), and since he is interested in people with similar zanpakutou like his own (let's say that people can sense zanpakutous that are similar to their own) and after some idle chitchat gives Ichigo & comapny an offer:

He offers the knowledge to achieve bankai in exchange for them seeking him for a duel later. (lets say that everyone with spirit powers can achieve bankai, but most lack the capacity to control it, hence few learn it due to the risks) but since Ichigo have no idea about that he accept.

Cue short training arc where he somehow manages to gain and control bankai.

Which looks similar to this:



Which can saw through everything with Reishi which it absorbs which it uses to generate an aura of terror and the more reishi it absorbes to more powerful the aura becomes. For example, Ichigo activates the bankai: opponent feel a chill in his back. Add a few minutes of reishi absorbation and opponent is paralyzed in terror.

They find Rukia, who is guarded by Byakuya. Ichigo manages to free her, and then hold off Byakuya with his shikai. The rest run. Byakuya activates bankai to pwn Ichigo. Ichigo copies with his bankai. Cue epic fight. Ichigo wins thanks to bankai aura. Ichigo & gang run away.

Add then some arc where they go to Hueco Mundo & shit.

There, a short story.
TL;DR: Original zanpakutou. First form is pocket chain saw, for easy storage and swift and light movement.
Shikai is chainsword. Is able to lengthen and shorten its length like Gin's zanpakutou. To lazy to come up with an activation command.
Bankai is a chainsaw. Saws through everything made of Reishi and absorbs reishi to project and aura of terror onto opponents. Ichigo can use this form for like 10 minutes or something.

Sorry for the necro.
 

zeebee1

Well-Known Member
#81
So his bankai is an enhanced version of the Quincy saber?

It sounds to me like you're trying to reach to far. And Ichigo's sealed blade cannot be small. it's size wasn't reflective of Zangetsu. It was huge because he couldn't make any smaller.
 

Herdo

Well-Known Member
#82
zeebee1 said:
So his bankai is an enhanced version of the Quincy saber?

It sounds to me like you're trying to reach to far. And Ichigo's sealed blade cannot be small. it's size wasn't reflective of Zangetsu. It was huge because he couldn't make any smaller.
Of course I am reaching too far. The idea came up one day when my mind painted up a image of Ichigo charging at Byakuya with a chainsaw zanpakutou. So I took like 5 minutes to try to expand and paint up the weak idea.

Nothing more, nothing less. ^_^
 

EspyLacopa

Well-Known Member
#83
zeebee1 said:
So his bankai is an enhanced version of the Quincy saber?

It sounds to me like you're trying to reach to far. And Ichigo's sealed blade cannot be small. it's size wasn't reflective of Zangetsu. It was huge because he couldn't make any smaller.
Will Ichigo use the Mystletainne KICK?
 

ragnarok1337

Well-Known Member
#84
I can't believe I'm the only one who thought of this. Give Ichigo the <a href='http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Blades_of_Chaos' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Blades of Chaos</a>.

Kratos, of course, would be the name of his Zanpakutou. And, since he has perma-shikai, his sword would always be in that form.

Question: Would he eventually gain Kratos' other weapons, and be able to switch them out on the fly like in the game? What about Kratos' other powerups that he got killing the gods, such as the <a href='http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Boots_of_Hermes' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Boots of Hermes</a>?

And would Ichigo pick up Kratos' looting traits after killing an enemy (in an excessively gory action), perhaps getting Yoruichi's flying device?


Discuss.
 
#85
Yuno Gasai as the avatar of Ichigo's Shinigami, Hollow and Quincy powers, the last being represented by her because she killed and ate the Yhwach look-alike that masqueraded as his zanpakutou spirit in canon. In this AU Ichigo's zanpakutou would be named Hangetsu (Half Moon) in shikai and Jikukan no Megami (Space-Time Goddess) in bankai, owing her bankai name to the relativistic and quantistic powers she bestows upon her wielder in her final release. In both released states the zanpakutou manifests herself as a monomolecular-edged sword/machine crossbow combo and grants access to a hollow mask as a power booster, the mask looking like the face of the skull of an unrestrained Murmur in shikai and the whole cranium of Deus Ex Machina in bankai.
 
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