An alternate idea for Kingdom Hearts

Gullwhacker

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#1
This idea came to me a few weeks ago in conversation, and I subsequently posted it to my LiveJournal. However, since almost no one reads it, the idea is still relatively obscure.

My problem here is twofold. I'm not sure what to do for an actual plot, besides retreading the standard plot of Kingdom Hearts, and I'm not sure who to use for villains. Suggestions welcome for both. (I think retreading the KH plot could work, as I'd be using different worlds altogether; Still not sure.)

Snapshots below.

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"Wakka wakka wakka, Sora! You don't have anything to worry about as long as we're here!"
"...good grief, the comedian's a bear?"

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"Wait a minute! Your face, your key...you must be from...Outer Space!"
"Well, I guess it's kind of like that..."
"Have you met my Uncle Matt? Last I heard from him, he'd met some huge, ferocious beast..."

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"I assure you, the potions I produce are perfectly safe for normal consumption! Allow my assistant to demonstrate. Of course, first we'll have to injure him so that you know that they work."
"Meep?"

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"But...I didn't mean it! I know I said I wished I didn't have to deal with being the keybearer, but-"
"You should always say what you mean, young Sora. Still, I will be fair. If you can traverse my Labyrinth, pass through the Goblin City, and reach my castle in...thirteen hours, then you can have the Keyblade back. Fail, and it will be lost to you forever."

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"His Majesty is off seeking the Keyblade, and Heartless have invaded the castle! We'll have to defend the queen to our last breaths!"
"Well, we could do that. Or...YOUR MAJESTY! THE HEARTLESS CLAIM THAT YOU'RE FAT!"
"They said WHAT?! HIIIII-YAH! HIIIII-YAH!"
"...look, I know they're soulless abominations bent on devouring all we hold dear, but wasn't that a bit much?"

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And lastly, the King standing on a clifftop, Keyblade slung over his shoulder. Finally pulling up his hood to stay anonymous while infiltrating the Organization, muttering,
"It's not easy, being green...."

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Take all the Disney elements of Kingdom Hearts, pull them out, and substitute the various creations of that master puppeteer. The king, obvious. Sora's companions - one evident, the other up for debate. There should be plenty of worlds that can be used. So, up for consideration:

Henson Hearts.
 

Watashiwa

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#2
*fanboy squeal*

:ph43r:

Er...

*ahem*.

O. H. M.Y. G.O.D.

Best idea ever? Not quite, but I can't think of any cooler ones.

Seriously, this could work. It would end up being far far wackier than regular KH, but why is that a bad thing? Most people forget that most of Kingdom Hearts is Disney, and that the Final Fantasy characters are the ones making the cameos.

So yes. EPIC WIN, MOAR!, etc. This needs to be done for great justice.

As for plot... write it out. Change what needs to be changed, and don't be afraid of making fun of the fact that the same cast of characters show up in different movies. Looking for King Kermit is going to be a real pain, especially considering that he's had way more roles than Mickey Mouse.
 

Gullwhacker

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#3
Yeah, I wasn't sure what to do with Sora and company and Muppet Treasure Island; I had something, but it needed tweaking. Fully plan on taking advantage of that, yes.



EDIT: Also, a reminder. Summons will still exist. One in particular comes to mind.

You know that the original Yoda was designed by Jim Henson, right?
 

Gullwhacker

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#5
Any particular reason why? As interesting a game as it may be, there's a certain aspect of comedy in the Henson stuff that doesn't quite appear in Halo.

Besides, we don't need those aliens and spaceships! We have...

Pigs! In! SPAAAAAAAAACE!
 

Mighty Bob

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#6
So for Sora's companions...you have Fozzy the bear and...how bout Gonzo?

Works for me anyways :huh.:

Would love to see more of this idea fleshed out (I'd offer suggestions but my Henson-fu is weak and I never got that far into KH. I couldn't stomache the massive amounts of Disney)
 

Dawn_Gazer

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#7
Well, I can't say I dislike the idea, infact it sounds wonderful! But to be honost, the worlds I'v always wanted to see are:

Warhammer 40k
Star Wars
Halo
Assassin's Creed
Shadow of the Colossus
Xenosaga
Crysis
Bioshock
Bleach
Blood+
Inuyasha
Claymore
Berserk

...Lord knows how any of that is possibly made, just thinking the sheer awsomeness of all of them would mesh.

But what do I know? :)
 
#8
If anything, Bleach would be a good one for Sora to be in.

:eek:t: What happened to the thread that had that trap saturated game and you had unlimited lives?
 

Watashiwa

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#9
Er... people, don't jack the thread. I know, I know, "This is TFF", but...

The subject at hand is a Muppet version of Kingdom Hearts. Not Kingdom Hearts: Adult Mix.

Not that it couldn't be good. I think that Sora interacting with the Persona-verse or any MegaTen series could be fascinating. Even Sora in Shadow of the Colossus or ICO could be good.

But let's stay with friend Jim H. and Kermit on this topic, eh? And for the love of God, please start a Kingdom Hearts: Adult Version thread. It begs to be done.

But not here.

/rant off

Hm. Don't have anything constructive to contribute. Maybe I'll go watch some old Henson films for inspiration.
 

Darmani

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#10
I just watched Labrynth.

Jareth would be the main villain or at least in that league. He fits with the actual story of the games so gosh darn well it is retarded not to make him a major villain. Traverse Town would be Sesame Street with the uncovering of various nooks and crannies aiding to going to other worlds. In side the city of Sesame Street would be the Muppet Show Theatre with a number of guest actors and stars and regular casts.

I haven't watched Dark Crystal and am not familiar with the other big henson stuff aside from that.

But if I may a stopover by Moya and her crew shouldn't be too inappropriate.
 

SotF

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#11
Yoda could pop up at some point, who better to be a teacher.
 

Gullwhacker

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#12
Heh. I'd originally considered making Sesame Street into the equivalent of Hundred Acre Woods - but I think I like that idea better. Also, I may or may not have to use Muppet Babies somewhere. (Something similar to Timeless River, perhaps?)

As for Labyrinth...yes. Exactly. Jareth...for various reasons, I don't quite see him as being on Ansem's level for destroy-the-world evil. But major villain? Oh, yes. I fully intend for the Labyrinth world to serve roughly the same role as KH1's Hollow Bastion.

AKA The World With Too Much Win.

Yoda will have to pop up somewhere, yes. Mind, he'll be something like the second mentor-type at the rate I'm musing... As for the first - anyone heard of 'The Storyteller'?
 

Gullwhacker

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#14
I have this mental image of Sora chasing Jareth through the Room With All The Staircases. One of the few humans to get this far through the Labyrinth - and during the chase, Jareth points this out.

Namely, that Sora reminds him of the babe.

What babe? The babe with the power.

*ducks brick*
 

Watashiwa

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#15
Gullwhacker said:
Namely, that Sora reminds him of the babe.

What babe? The babe with the power.

*ducks brick*
LMAO.

Heh. Glad to see this isn't dead. I really look forward to seeing some more awesomeness.

Snippets??? Please???

As for Jareth->Maleficent... nah. Jareth is chaotic neutral. He doesn't do anything for a reason, but he also doesn't act to be evil. Maleficent is spiteful, vengeful, cruel, and evil .

Jareth is spiteful, vengeful cruel BUT FAIR. In everything he does, his opponent is treated with all the respect that he deserves, and is given a chance. If Jareth believes that you will play by certain rules, he will not act in a way that impinges on his honor. I see Jareth as an analogue more for the Beast. Perhaps he and Sora meet twice; once in the Labrynth for Jareth's game, and again later as allies against Ansem.
 

toraneko

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#16
In a way, though, that makes Jareth a better character to fill the role than Maleficent. Sure, he's the one who will act honorably and all... which will make it that much more of a shocker when a worse enemy reveals itself as the real Final Boss.
 

Watashiwa

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#17
*Watashiwaákicks thread

This has been bugging me for a while now. I was thinking about how to work in the series' crossovers when this occurred to me:

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Sora swung his Keyblade wildly, destroying another Shadow before its claws could sank into his chest. He caught another one on the backswing, and took a half step forward to complete his attack. His leg betrayed him in that moment, exhaustion taking its toll as he stumbled. The Shadow recovered from being knocked back and moved forward to claim the boy's heart, practically twitching with eagerness. Sora got one hand under himself and pushed himself into a half crouch. Behind the one enemy he could see more of creatures coming out of the dark. He could destroy the one in front of him, but the one after that? And how about the tenth after that? How many could he defeat before he was overwhelmed?

The question would never need to be answered. A flash of light dazzled Sora momentarily, and when his eyes cleared up he saw the monster in front of him had been vaporized--all that remained was a patch of still-smoking ground. More bursts of light followed, and with each one another Shadow disappeared and another spot of ground started smoking.

Sora's jaw dropped. Who--?

"The Heartless hate and fear the Keyblade." The unexpected words made Sora jump, and he spun around to face the one who had spoken. The man approaching him looked to be just a few years older than him; the hardness of his voice and face gave the him the illusion of being older. The darkness of the street made identifying facial features difficult, but it seemed to Sora that the other man had short hair, either dark blue or black, mostly covered by a bandanna. His clothes seemed normal; which, Sora realized was what was so odd about them. He didn't look like any islander Sora knew, so why was he dressed like one?

The man continued on as if he hadn't noticed Sora's scrutiny, and hadn't been eying Sora--and particularly the silver key in his hand--in return. "They'll keep on attacking you for as long as you've got that key. So for your own sake, hand it over!"

Sora stared. Had he just...? He didn't look like he had any weapons on him, but he also didn't look capable of firing laser beams, which ten piles of disintegrated Shadows could attest to.

Taking his astonishment for refusal, the other man snapped his wrists and suddenly held two swords, one in each hand. Another complicated motion had both swords joined at the hilts, one of them pointed at him. "If you won't give it up, I'll have to put you down by force!"

Sora raised his--Keyblade, was it?-- to a guard position, ignoring the tiredness of his body. The other man sank into a crouch, and surged forward. Sora shifted his weight for a dodge to the left, when suddenly another figure dashed in between them. The newcomer swung something and there was a yelp and a sudden tangle of limbs. All belonging to his attacker, the newcomer had somehow managed to avoid the crash.

"Ahh! Didn't I tell you not to go off on your own?! I knew this was going to happen the second you hear the magic word: Keyblade! I mean look at him, he's just a kid! Jeez, and here you were getting ready to beat him over the head with your seagull!" The newcomer's voice was unmistakably female.

"It's called a swallow!" His attacker snarled indignantly. "And I wasn't going to beat him over the head, I just needed to knock him out so that the Keyblade would stop attracting every Heartless in five worlds!"

The girl hit him with her hammer again. "Oh yeah, and how were you planning to do that?! Even minor seeming head injuries can have long-term or permanent effects! And knowing how hard you'd hit him, you might have killed him outright! Idiot!" For good measure she hit him again.

"Oi! Whaddya think you're doin' hittin' my mate Serge so hard!" Another female voice drew Sora's attention to the side, where a pig-tailed blonde was running towards them, dressed in a red jacket and shirt combo so short that she looked on the verge of flashing the world with every step was. Not that Sora was interested in that sort of thing. Certainly not.

Serge scowled from his position on the ground. "I've told you before, I left that name behind! My name is--"

CRUNCH

Sora and Serge gulped simultaneously, as the first girl leaned forward threateningly, her glasses reflecting the lamplight eerily. Her hand idly tapped the base of the hammer she'd driven into the pavement an inch away from the juncture of Serge's pants. "Serge. Your name is Serge."

"Ye-yes, ma'am."

"Yes who?"

"Yes, Lucca, that's fine! My name is Serge!"

"Good boy!" Lucca turned towards Sora, suddenly all smiles. "Sorry about the idiot. I'm Lucca, and this Serge. She," she said, pointing at the girl now helping Serge to his feet, "Is Kid. Any questions? No? What's your name?"

"Ah, I'm Sora!" Sora said with a grin.

...Right before passing out on the street as the stress, exhaustion and general weirdness of the day caught up with him.

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And another:

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"Oh man, get a load of that guy," the Arena Master 'whispered'. "Your next opponent looks like a real piece of work, kid." Sora winced, wondering if his next opponent had heard. Going by the glare the other man was sending his way, the chances were good that he had.

The other man stood a good two heads taller than Sora, though his flaming red hair looked to add another five inches on top of that. Sora, whose hair naturally spiked, wondered how much gel the other guy used to stand it up like that. The other man was dressed a dark blue training outfit, carried a katana and wore a long blood-red scarf. The scarf rippled oddly, wrapped as it was around his neck, its loose end twisting. Sora's stomach lurched as he realized that, within the confines of the arena the wind couldn't blow. The scarf was alive.

The Arena Master glanced down at him, perhaps worried that Sora had lost his nerve. "You ready, boy?"

Sora nodded, hands suddenly sweaty around the Keyblade's cool grip.

"You clowns ready?" He asked Fozzie and Gonzo.

Gonzo nodded, even though his face was still covered in banana cream from Fozzie's victory pie smash to the face, while the bear himself patted himself on the back for a joke well done.

"All righty then! Ladies and gentlemen, gladiator fans and fan-ettes, I present to you the last match of the Guardia Cup tournament, Team Sora versuuuuuuus Crono! Fight!"

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Replace Disney? Fine. The next step is to go the full distance and replace FF with Chrono!

Serge takes over for Squall, Crono for Cloud. Guess who gets to be Sephiroth? :yay:
 
#18
Crono never had an Archenemy though, so it can't be Magus... on the other hand, with this idea, Chernabog is replaced with Lavos.

Hell yes.
 
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