Akamatsuverse Another blade in a second

chronodekar

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#51
More or less seconding shioran's thoughts on what Tsuruko's reaction to Motoko should be. But in all fairness, she should give her younger sister a chance to explain. Whatever she feels like.

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HotelKatz

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#52
Yeah, Guilt-tripping would be more effective than scaring the lights out of Motoko.

At the moment, I can come up with one reason that Motoko would use as a reason for her actions; she thought that she was right at the time and that Keitaro is a pervert. Probably would still think that's she's right.

But that kinda seems like re-hashing an overused plot element from a few fics. Perhaps I should have Motoko regret a few of the things she's done. Should I put the list of the times that Motoko wronged Keitaro up here and let you guys pick and choose what ones Motoko should regret?

I could also use the guilt-trip to have Tsuruko order Motoko to learn from Tomoko and obey her. That'll make the point where Motoko learns about Tomoko's identity interesting.
 
#53
the thing is that Motoko is both 100% Sure that her actions were Justified and terribly horribly afraid that she was wrong in her assumptions... so she is going into denial pretty soon unless she is taken out of her zone of comfort and something drastically shatters her perspective, to make her start doubting the righteousness of her past actions, unntil that happens she is going into both denial and feel that her actions were not only justified but right.
 

chronodekar

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#54
shioran toushin said:
the thing is that Motoko is both 100% Sure that her actions were Justified and terribly horribly afraid that she was wrong in her assumptions... so she is going into denial pretty soon unless she is taken out of her zone of comfort and something drastically shatters her perspective, to make her start doubting the righteousness of her past actions, unntil that happens she is going into both denial and feel that her actions were not only justified but right.
If I could go back in time to tell myself how to behave (or rectify) certain circumstances, I'm pretty certain I could do it without forcing myself to go into shock.

... then again, I might intentionally make myself go into shock just for the lulz. That, and the fact that there were times when I wished that someone would have done the same to me.

I mean, we've all been assholes at some point or the other in our lives, right?

-chronodekar
 
#55
but, think, were you 100% sure that you were completely Right and Justified and another 100% 'devoted' (couldn't find another word at the moment) to the cause?

and how future you could 'tell yourself' if you don't know the fact the random person is future you... and would you believe that the Random person who is pretending to be your cousin is future you?
 

chronodekar

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#56
shioran toushin said:
but, think, were you 100% sure that you were completely Right and Justified and another 100% 'devoted' (couldn't find another word at the moment) to the cause?
Honestly? It depends. But if I really wanted to, I think I could avoid giving myself a shock. The real question is - do I want to? It would depend on the screw-up I was trying to 'correct'

and how future you could 'tell yourself' if you don't know the fact the random person is future you... and would you believe that the Random person who is pretending to be your cousin is future you?
That's an easy one. Just ask 'future' me some personal question about myself that I've never told anyone. I'm pretty certain that everybody has some secret or fantasy that they keep bottled up inside themselves - if that's whispered into my ear, then, at the very least, I would be paying attention.

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HotelKatz

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#57
I think I'll do something like this when Motoko and Kitsune learn of Tomoko's identity

Kitsune doesn't believe Tomoko is Future!Motoko and wants to send Tomoko to an asylum.

Motoko, is split between "If Tsuruko believes it's true, so shall I" and "This can't be true because she sounds insane for claiming to be me from the future!". Then she'll be trying to confirm Tomoko's identity without Tomoko knowing about it.

And the most of the girls will be walking on eggshells, not wanting to call Tomoko out on what they think is bullshit.

Except for Su. She'll be wanting to both know more about the future and also wanting to make it up for Keitaro for actions that lead to his death, even though she'll never do those actions now.

Or should I do things differently?
 
#58
Kaolla would beleive it, mainly because she has the DNA test at hand aaand, superscience.
 

chronodekar

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#59
HotelKatz said:
I think I'll do something like this when Motoko and Kitsune learn of Tomoko's identity
I'm more curious to know how this happens; Are we going with the evesdropping idea, or something else? :huh:

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HotelKatz

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#61
I kinda plan on Su reviewing the vidoe from the Tamabots, but unknown to her, Kitsune and Motoko snuck in. Kitsune hopes to get some spy devices and Motoko wishes to speak with Su to merely vent or something. Maybe Motoko wants to take Su out to see a movie because Motoko wants to be somewhere other than the Hinata and going to the movies with Su is a good excuse/cover.

The DNA chekov's gun could be used by Su to to convince everyone of Tomoko's identity later on, when Naru or someone else demands hard evidence of Tomoko being Future!Motoko.
 

Spectrum

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#62
chronodekar said:
HotelKatz said:
I think I'll do something like this when Motoko and Kitsune learn of Tomoko's identity
I'm more curious to know how this happens; Are we going with the evesdropping idea, or something else? :huh:

-chronodekar
It would seem pretty contrived for martial artists of their supposed caliber to get snuck up on and eavesdropped on without knowing.
 

HotelKatz

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#63
Tomoko is being watched by some hiddenTamabots that Su sent to protect Motoko.

Somehow, the Tamabots were able to detect that Tomoko is Future!Motoko. So when Tomoko slapped Motoko, the Tamabots did nothing because they saw it as Motoko slapping Motoko.

Su didn't call off the Tamabots, so they are still following Tomoko.
 

DhampyrX2

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#64
Spectrum said:
chronodekar said:
HotelKatz said:
I think I'll do something like this when Motoko and Kitsune learn of Tomoko's identity
I'm more curious to know how this happens; Are we going with the evesdropping idea, or something else? :huh:

-chronodekar
It would seem pretty contrived for martial artists of their supposed caliber to get snuck up on and eavesdropped on without knowing.
If they detect people by "aura" it would not be hard for Tsuruko to miss Motoko being there too as Motoko and Tomoko would have the same aura being the same person. And Tomoko might LET Motoko eavesdrop to give her younger self a kick in the pants.
 

HotelKatz

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#65
Since it seems that Motoko easedropping on Tsuruko and Tomoko isan entertaining enought idea for me to write, It'll happen after dinner in the Hinata.

I'll have Motoko eavesdrop when Tomoko and Tsuruko go over their plan in Tsuruko's room later that night. Due to Motoko not knowing Tomoko's real identity, parts of their plan seem out of place for a punishment for Motoko. Motoko then goes to speak with Su, or to ask her to come along to see a movie the next day. Motoko meets with with Kitsune and both come into Su's room unnoticed, where the two watch what Su is watching, When Tomoko revealed her idenity to Tsuruko.

I'm going to modify the first post in this topic by saturday. I'll put in a spoiler tag and in it, will be the start of the outline. That will make things easier.
 

HotelKatz

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#66
I posted the beginnings of an outline in my first post.

So any thoughts on how Kitsune should act following watching Su's video of Tomoko and Tsuruko?

Personally, I think Kitsune would outright deny it and either act like Tomoko is an loony or a scam artist. But if anyone else has a different idea on how she would act, I'm all ears.
 

HotelKatz

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#67
A talk with PCHeintz72 currently has me decide that Kitsune's reaction first would be thinking that Tomoko is a nutty scam artist, but the DNA evidence would make Kitsune decide to do a 'wait and see' approach.

Here's a thought for you all... What should Naru's reaction be to learning that in Tomoko's timeline, she killed Keitaro?

My first thought was Naru's reaction would be a mix of denial, horror, and being a bit afraid to be near Keitaro for awhile.

Heck, learning about that could be what makes Naru decide to formally reject Keitaro's feelings. But that seems kinds cheap or something.

Let me know what you guys think.
 

Solaris

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#68
Well, If Naru does learn of it. Obviously she's probably going to think it's a scam too. But if the proof comes up then yea, I can see her being horrified and everything. And despite thoughts of the contrary, she is a good person. So she probably will try and reject Keitaro to protect him. The problem with this is, well, Keitaro is kind of hard headed and may still pursue her anyway. On the other hand, with the reality slaps that Tomoko has been handing Keitaro. Maybe he'll be more cautious this time?

It feels like this seems like the perfect time for a breather episode where people begin to re-evaluate their way of doing things, at least for Keitaro and Naru. Not sure about Motoko and the others though. Especially since Tomoko inadvertently interrupted Motoko's character development arc where she grows as a person and solidifies her feelings for Keitaro. Whoops?
 

HotelKatz

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#69
Oh yeah... I did plan on Tsuruko berating Tomoko for possibly destroying a moment where Motoko grows up...
 

Solaris

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#70
Tomoko - AH... I forgot all about that. Argh! I thought I outgrew not thinking things through!!!
Tsuroko - *Sighs* That's my sister alright.
 

EagleCeres

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#71
HotelKatz said:
A talk with PCHeintz72 currently has me decide that Kitsune's reaction first would be thinking that Tomoko is a nutty scam artist, but the DNA evidence would make Kitsune decide to do a 'wait and see' approach.

Here's a thought for you all... What should Naru's reaction be to learning that in Tomoko's timeline, she killed Keitaro?

My first thought was Naru's reaction would be a mix of denial, horror, and being a bit afraid to be near Keitaro for awhile.

Heck, learning about that could be what makes Naru decide to formally reject Keitaro's feelings. But that seems kinds cheap or something.

Let me know what you guys think.
Naru> rule number one: deny! deny! deny!... then we give ourselves some breathing room, because I still hasn't decided what to do about his confession... but not too much breathing room, as that hussy Tomo...er...Future!Motoko wants a piece of him.

Naru> *moment of "clarity"* wait, does that mean that Present!Motoko also wants him? *moment of jealous rage* that hypocrite! *thrashes around her room with the Liddo-kun doll* she' NOT getting MY Keitaro... *remembers she's been ignoring him pretty solid since the hospital* oh... yeah... maybe I could be a little nicer?


What I wonder is... how will Motoko take suddenly having her sister and her "cousin's" support in "regaining her honor" and possibly getting closer to that pervert sweet yet clumsy man that has been harrassing supporting her for the past year (or some such)?

Also... if Mutsumi ever appears, would Tomoko ship KeixMut harder than support her past self? :snigger:
 

HotelKatz

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#72
Actually, Mutsumi did appear in chapter 6. a few chapters later, she spoke with Tomoko and didn't like her.

At the moment, I'm going with 'mutsumi was somehow able to sense that Tomoko isn't from the current time period' as the reason that Mutsumi doesn't like Tomoko.

After typing that, I realize that sounds kinda stupid, so I might go with, 'Mutsumi somehow is able to tell that Tomoko actually has a good chance at preventing Keitaro and Naru from getting together'.
 
#73
and she feels 'wrong' (mainly playing on the fanon belief that she has something todo with the turtle civilization and mystical mumbo jumbo).
besides this Mutsumi is an unrepentant enabler.
 

chronodekar

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#74
Umm... I'm lost. I was too busy to read the latest snippet in the first post for the past week or so and now that I finally have time, it looks like it changed. :(

Is the current OP plans for what happens after whatever is on FFN or is it something else?

-chronodekar
 

HotelKatz

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#75
I'm pretty much seeking help/advice for planning for what should happen next, chronodekar.
 
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