Nasuverse Archerko!Emilya

[Zenithos]

Hmm, I don't know if this idea has been suggested before or not. Neither do I know if it's feasible in FSN canon. And chances are it'll be shot out of the water oh so very soon, by you-know-who. Knowing my chances with FSN ideas, it's a wonder why I still even dare go out and suggest any. :lol:

Anyway, the idea is this -

Emilya is the result of the fusing of Shirou's soul with Ilya's body, giving birth to Emilya. I believe a more complete description of how it occured, etc, was given in the 'Emilya Saga' thread.

Anyway, what if Emilya went on to becoming Archerko!Emilya? Basically a female Archer. It would make a rather interesting twist on the entire grail war when she is somehow summoned by Rin in place of the original Archer.

I have yet to expand on this idea so opinions, suggestions, and such are welcome...provided it doesn't crash first... :snigger: :rofl:

 

[Fatuous One]

I've reached 'You-Know-Who' status?

That sucks, I hope I don't get off-ed by a stupid little baby.

Well, really, I don't really see any reason why it can't work. Granted, there's the problem of the ToH not really accepting more than one soul of an individual (because, supposedly, the soul that is accepted is their most 'ideal' state.), but there's no reason why Emilya actually has to be part of that system. You see, Saber wasn't actually dead when she was summoned, and she didn't actually go through the ToH. The Grail Wars made use of an already existing system, but there's no reason why it can't summon Eirei from places OTHER than the Throne of Heroes (it's just that... the ToH is the only stable place that Eirei exist). Going by the same thing that Saber did, you could have Emilya try to make a contract to the World that involved the Grail War, which would also make her something of a Counter-Guardian (which are implied to be the only Eirei that can travel backwards in time).

As I said, it could work.



Now, what exactly you want to do with it is the real question.

 

[Zenithos]

What I want to do with it?

No idea. I haven't even thought of a plot yet, especially as I had a sneaking feeling this idea would end up on the sea bed in 2-3 posts. Well, nice to see that one of my ideas could work, for once. :lol:

Well, the idea is up for grabs for now. I just enjoyed thinking of Emilya as Archerko for some reason.

Well, here's an idea of sorts...what if she returned with part of her memories, or at least, vague shadows of her memories. She finds a strong urge to always protect Ilya for some reason and at times she half-goes against Rin, just for Ilya.

Ok, seriously, I have no plot ideas whatsoever. I'll come back in the morning when I can think properly. :snigger:

 

[xXSpawmOfSinXx]

I recall a doujin doing this exact story idea. Cant remember the title right now, but I'll be sure to post it when I can remember where I saw it.

 

[Liam-don]

I recall a doujin doing this exact story idea. Cant remember the title right now, but I'll be sure to post it when I can remember where I saw it.

It's Sword Dancers.Available in english at Gaku Gaku animal land.All kind of awesome.

I find Archer-ko rather cool, but I have some problem about her ability.She has tracing ability on par with Archer, but it doesn't look like she has the drawback( no darkening skin). Also , unlike Archer she has no Avalon to boost her durability, and it does'nt look like she suffer from Archer's "selflessness".

But what the hell, the doujin is great, and that' reason enough.

 

[SMWhat]

Actually, I think that Archer-ko IS Ilya. Just noting.

 

[Fatuous One]

Yes, SMWhat is right. Archer-ko = Ilya. That's the whole difference with this idea then Sword Dancers is that Emilya (i.e., Shirou in Ilya's body) gets summoned as Archer, not Ilya summoned as Archer.

Also, if you think that Archer-ko is h4x from Sword Dancers, you should see Sword Dancers 2, and Sword Dancers 2 Episode 2... *shakes head*

 

[Mereo Flere]

If I recall correctly, the tracing drawback was actually the hair turning white.

Ilya's hair was white to begin with.

Tracing puts a strain on the body, so I'd imagine that the effect it would have on skin would be to lighten it as stress usually does; not darken it. Archer probably got tanned naturally, or perhaps through the body enhancement when he made the pact with the world.

Still, her ability seems to be slightly different from Archer's tracing. The way the multiple swords form around her seem to reminds me more of Gilgamesh's Gate of Babylon; only, used for melee instead of spamming.

And, Archer-ko? H4x? I wouldn't dream of it. :unsure!:

 

[fuyu]

Still, her ability seems to be slightly different from Archer's tracing. The way the multiple swords form around her seem to reminds me more of Gilgamesh's Gate of Babylon; only, used for melee instead of spamming.

Didn't Archer also use UBW this way in one of the scenarios? Either in UBW or HF he rained down swords onto another servant. Either that, or I'm mixing up fanon with canon. XD

If I recall correctly, the tracing drawback was actually the hair turning white.

It does seem that way, as shown in the UBW ending with Rin seeing Shirou/Archer with the white hair.

 

[Fatuous One]

Still, her ability seems to be slightly different from Archer's tracing. The way the multiple swords form around her seem to reminds me more of Gilgamesh's Gate of Babylon; only, used for melee instead of spamming.

Didn't Archer also use UBW this way in one of the scenarios? Either in UBW or HF he rained down swords onto another servant. Either that, or I'm mixing up fanon with canon. XD

Pretty sure that Mereo was talking about how it looked visually (and thus, not quite the same as UBW). Archer's way of tracing melee weaponry doesn't look like Gilgamesh (at least, not that you can see). He does spam swords like Gil (the one point that comes to mind is when he did a rain of blades onto the Angra Mainyu blob), but he traces weaponry on hand when he uses it for close combat. Archer-ko on the other hand looks almost exactly like Gilgamesh's usage as the blades comes along side her, even when she's only using them for melee.

It does seem that way, as shown in the UBW ending with Rin seeing Shirou/Archer with the white hair.

That's Archer, right before he disappears. He lets his hair down and smiles, looks really different doesn't he?

Anyway, regarding Archer's different looks, there's no statement on which is which. It's said that his changed looks are due to his Tracing, and also because of his pact with the World. Still, I find it more likely that the hair and skin color are due to his Tracing, and his enhanced body (he's a meter or more bigger than Shirou IIRC) due to the pact with the World. Of course, that's mere speculation, but why would a pact with the World make your skin color or hair color change? So that leaves only Tracing.

 

[fuyu]

I just realized that Archer and Dante look really similar...

Wow, kooky idea of Fate/DMC rolling around.

I find Archer-ko rather cool, but I have some problem about her ability.She has tracing ability on par with Archer, but it doesn't look like she has the drawback( no darkening skin). Also , unlike Archer she has no Avalon to boost her durability, and it does'nt look like she suffer from Archer's "selflessness".

Re-reading SwordDancers, there is a part in the 2nd? chapter where the drawbacks to Archer-ko's tracing is explained. Her magic circuits are being eaten up, that's why her tracing, while on par with Archer's, is slowly degenerating, as shown when her swords are no longer able to hold up against his.

 

[Fatuous One]

Re-reading SwordDancers, there is a part in the 2nd? chapter where the drawbacks to Archer-ko's tracing is explained. Her magic circuits are being eaten up, that's why her tracing, while on par with Archer's, is slowly degenerating, as shown when her swords are no longer able to hold up against his.

Actually, I got the impression that the reason her circuits were being eaten was because of her link to the other Ilya, that or she got some sort of Worms infested in her (which might explain the centipede imagery there). Archer's comment made me think that this was an uncommon thing between them, since he was disappointed she wasn't up to her usual standards, hence I don't believe that it was a drawback from her Tracing.

Oh, and that one you read is actually part three, sort of. There's 'Swords Dancers', "Sword Dancers 2' and 'Swords Dancers 2 - Episode 2'.

 

[fuyu]

Yeah, it gets a bit confusing as to why and how the circuits are being eaten. But I guess that's what the next part of the story is for. ^ ^ Can't wait.

 

[Fatuous One]

That doujin circle likes being confusing at times, I kinda doubt we're going to get too clear of a statement on everything. Regardless, it's all good. ^^

 

[toraneko]

The doujin mentioned something about "soul erosion" in that. I believe it's something to do with Ilya's homonculus nature and/or her "expiration date". Since she is essentially a walking mass of magic circuits, it could well be that the strain of Tracing is destroying her.

I wonder what Zel-jii's stake in all this is?

 

[Fatuous One]

Mmm, I really figured it was more due to the chibi-Ilya. You'll note that when she touched that one hapless boy in the last chapter, he splattered into a mess of gore. I'd make a wager that whatever her touch did to him might be slowly eating away at Archer-ko.

Or not.

As for Zelretch... well, that's what the next volume is for.

I hope.