Arrangement

Moshulel

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#76
Terdwilicker said:
Kei still has Hina's support, and she holds the Hinata District. While it is a small town, its still a town she owns. One known to contain good magic, so clearly that's not a bad thing.
Ummm....

I think you got the facts a bit wrong, i don't remember being stated anywhere in the manga that Hina had properties outside of the Inn and its annexes.
 
#77
I've heard the theory about Hina owning all of Hinata as well. Probably fanon.
 

Terdwilicker

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#78
Yeah, it's probably fanon, but its also sensible if she owns the properties and leases them out to the shopkeepers. That could explain why there is no starbucks in Hinata district.
 

SimmyC

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#79
Maybe there is no Starbuck in Hinata because Love Hina was made before Starbucks became the huge corporate monster that it is today? :sweat: And given that Hinata was a small town, it might be one of the last places Starbuck would open a shop. They have the big cities to conquer first. :p
 

Moshulel

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#80
Terdwilicker said:
Yeah, it's probably fanon, but its also sensible if she owns the properties and leases them out to the shopkeepers. That could explain why there is no starbucks in Hinata district.
No evidence that she owns more than the Hinata Sou and the anexes in the manga, and that's it.

And given that Hinata was a small town, it might be one of the last places Starbuck would open a shop.
Not to mention that Tokyo is a much larger fry. :p
 
#81
AFAIK, Hinata is PART of Tokyo, just like Nerima.
 

Moshulel

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#82
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
AFAIK, Hinata is PART of Tokyo, just like Nerima.
Yes... but it's the equivalent of a suburb or something like that.
 

Terdwilicker

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#83
Starbucks was founded in 1971. There's a good chance there were locations in Tokyo by the early 90's, and a better chance in the late 90's when this story began. The Laughing Man from GITS:SAC is a Starbucks (parody) logo, btw.

Yes, it's possible that Hina only owns the Inn, the Teahouse, and the Annex and grounds, but the lack of corporate penetration into the area points to it being owned by someone disinclined to sell out to the greedy bastards. It's possible that the Hina gods own their properties and shops, since they're immortal and fairly invisible. They're not inclined to change, but not invincible either, since they're disgraced from Heaven, as it were. There's about eight of them, all told, according to scenes from the Anime. They run the flower shop and ink and paper shop and a bunch of those places. Hina holds the inn and teahouse, plus the seaside teahouse, which is obviously not in the district though in a magical area as well. We know that for sure.

I could see her owning many other properties in the district as well. After all, she's been there for a century, according to the Moe episode. Maybe she doesn't, but her fortune has to be larger than the Inn makes if she can afford to run around the world on indefinate leave and still have spare change for repairs. Hina is well funded, like a corporation. That's why its not unreasonable to think she owns much of the Hinata District, if not all of it.
 

Konous

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#84
(remember, the President is the Commander in Chief)
Hate to be a nit pick, but I'm going to be one anyway, SimmyC but uh........isn't Commander 'n Chief? I think my American history teacher was pretty adamant about that. Especially she considered it a wrong answer to put Commander in Chief in any free response questions. Why she was so dead set is any ones guess.




Okay here's my review of the story so far.

I love the flash backs man I think the best part of the fic is reading them so you can find out more bits and pieces about Keitaro's past. So his ancestors, who ever they were, were probably not the most 'Well reputated' bunch.

I also find that at the same time the story runs sort of as a long thought process for Keitaro, as he attempts to anylyze everythign he sees. Case in point, yon umbrella scene. I actually had to re read it to understand that, and it was rather funny since it was so out of the blue.


I honestly can't wait to see more of this man. My one question is will this develop into a love triangle.....or are you just going to let things flow and see what happens?
 

Alzrius

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#85
Konous said:
Hate to be a nit pick, but I'm going to be one anyway, SimmyC but uh........isn't Commander 'n Chief?
The correct term is "Commander-in-Chief" with the hyphens.
 

SMWhat

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#87
I'm probably not going to finish this story anytime soon. See, I sort of start a story, barrel through a coupla chapters, then work on something else until my muse hits me--know what I mean? You write, right? That's writing.

But but but

This story, in terms of chapters? Nearly done. Eight chapters left. Really. Five chapters. Four. Two. Do I look like I'm bustin' your chops or something? I'm not busting your chops. C'mon, this is a face you can trust.

But but but

You might not see an update anytime soon, and perhaps that's a good thing. I'm glad--really glad, not bustin' your chops, here--to hear you like my story

But but but

You aren't going to like the ending at all. Nope. No sir. No no no no no.
 

SimmyC

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#88
There are many reasons why you might not see corporate chain stores in Hinata. And it doesn't have to solely be due to Hina's apparent conquest of Hinata's property either. <_< I mean, isn't one of the charms of a small town (or at least a suburb on the periphery of a major city) the fact that it doesn't have those big box chain stories? I mean, when I go to small town America to try out some 'authentic' apple pie, I'm not expecting to run into Starbucks. <_<

And this is supposing that some local council or committee, simply didn't allow these box stores to pop up in the first place.

*Yes, American small towns are being infected by places like Starbuck or McDonalds now. But I can pretty much assure you, these places did not instantly pop up in these locations either. After all, before getting into the smaller markets, they had to conqurer the big ones first.

Which brings us to another issue here. Why... why are we even talking about Starbucks?! Starbucks is a realitive newcomer to the who worldwide franchise takeover business. <_< If anything, you should have been talking about McDonalds first (Inuyasha for example, had a few episodes where Kagome and friends went to a place that was obviously based on McDonalds. Instead of the M, it was a W). :p

As for Commander 'n Chief, I have NEVER seen it wrtten this way. <_< Apparently your teacher had a major beef on his shoulder because, just a look around the Internet, all I could find was Commander in Chief (like that Geena Davis TV show) or, I'm guessing the more correct use, Commander-in-Chief with the hyphons.

[edit]Oh yeah, and I said that Love Hina was made before it (Starbuck) became the huge corporate monster that it is today. I didn't say it was made before Starbuck was founded. Just that, it was made before Starbuck became 'the' coffee/cappuccino/frappuccino/etc.
 

EagleCeres

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#89
Moshulel said:
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
AFAIK, Hinata is PART of Tokyo, just like Nerima.
Yes... but it's the equivalent of a suburb or something like that.
Hinata is in the 'suburb' of Kanagawa, which like Nerima, is in the greater Tokyo area.

And Granny Hina, AFAIK, only owns (and left to Keitaro) the grounds where the Hinata sou is... which is a PRETTY big plot of land.

As for all those big chain fast food stores (McD, Star, etc), maybe there could be one or two, but it would have to keep in with the look of the district. The Hinata district depicted in the manga seems to be pretty proud (and adamant) to look like a classic japanese resort town around the turn of the (last) century. Also, since there is supposed to be a Neverland amusement park... i think that may be a pot shot at Disneyland :p

And about the Fic, I still wonder about Kei's mind not being all there with all the bumps and bruises he's taken. Hope to read more soon ^_^
 

toraneko

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#90
EagleCeres said:
The Hinata district depicted in the manga seems to be pretty proud (and adamant) to look like a classic japanese resort town around the turn of the (last) century.
More precisely, it looks like the average "new" town that was built post-WWII. I believe it is stated (or at least implied) that much of Hinata ward was destroyed in the bombing of Tokyo. The forbidden annex was one of the few places that wasn't.

That's why you see houses in Hinata with concrete construction, rather than the outdated, mostly-wood construction from before the war.

Hinata-sou itself is meant specifically to look like "traditional" architecture and construction. Most of the surfaces are wood, with a tile roof. This is typical of onsen resorts; Hinata-sou is just rather large for its kind. The fact that there is modern plumbing and electricity in Hinata-sou belies its facade - it's modern construction, with a classical look.
 

GenocideHeart

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#91
BTW, Terd, what's that nonsense about the Hinata 'gods'?

If you are referring to the crotchety old men that show up spewing nonsense in the anime, I'll have you know there's not a shade of them in the manga, so they are entirely and exclusively anime filler nonsense, which holds about as much water as Broly in DBZ.
 

Alzrius

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#92
GenocideHeart said:
BTW, Terd, what's that nonsense about the Hinata 'gods'?

If you are referring to the crotchety old men that show up spewing nonsense in the anime, I'll have you know there's not a shade of them in the manga, so they are entirely and exclusively anime filler nonsense, which holds about as much water as Broly in DBZ.
At least Broly was cool. Those old guys annoyed the crap outta me. :angry:
 

Terdwilicker

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#93
That's true. It does have a lot of modern elements, and the fear of the Hina(gods) when the image of the B-29 flew over, that was definitely referencing something. So it probably burned and was rebuilt around the time that Hina(woman) was about 45 years old. That makes sense, though I prefer to think it survived the war. Clearly, the Hinata Apartments are prewar, at least below ground. From the mention of renovations, one gets the idea these happen regularly anyway. If the 8 town council members own their stores and land (likely), and Hina owns more than just the Inn and annex (also likely since her funds seem to be greater than the inn which operates at breakeven or loss), that does offer the potential for my story Fallout to work without violating canon.
 

Terdwilicker

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#94
Friend of mine found a reference to deposed Shinto gods being refered to as "hina". Thus Hinata is a direct reference to a region where they lived. They have a portion of their former power, but they're immortal and very aged. Yes, they're not in the manga. However, if they're gods like the reference to Japanese mythology states (I haven't found the reference myself. Might be a book. Its not in Wikipedia) then it makes more sense. They could be centuries old, hiding out in their little shops, being old when Hina was young. I'm going to follow that particular trail because I like it and they're creepy as well as amusing.
 

toraneko

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#96
Ah... TW, could you edit those so that we know which parts of the discussion you're answering?
 

Moshulel

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#97
Huh?!?!?!?!

If they're not in the manga what is their relevance?
 

GenocideHeart

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#98
Moshulel said:
Huh?!?!?!?!

If they're not in the manga what is their relevance?
Mosh, kill that signature. It's too big for my 56k to handle, and I had to restart my modem five times already because it collapsed under the strain of loading it.

As a rule, please try to avoid animated sigs unless they are only a few kb's big. Not everyone on this forum has DSL or cable, and large animated gifs are REALLY annoying.
 

Moshulel

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#99
Mosh, kill that signature. It's too big for my 56k to handle, and I had to restart my modem five times already because it collapsed under the strain of loading it.
Ok. ;) No problem with that, like i said, it's my sig for the day, i just couldn't resist it. It looked at me and said: Uuuuussseeee meeeee.
 

Alzrius

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Moshulel said:
It looked at me and said: Uuuuussseeee meeeee.
Oh the things I would do if that catgirl looked at me and said that... :p~
 
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