Avatar:TLA Miscellaneous Ideas Thread
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You forget, Lavos slept for millions of years before it became powerful enough to influence Zeal.
If Sozin's comet was Lavos, and it landed... it would do pretty much what Lavos did in CT - burrow to the planet's core, and send the world into an ice age.
You want to do a CT/AtlA crossover, Lavos already needs to be in position.
If Sozin's comet was Lavos, and it landed... it would do pretty much what Lavos did in CT - burrow to the planet's core, and send the world into an ice age.
You want to do a CT/AtlA crossover, Lavos already needs to be in position.
An idea pulled from Spacebattles' plot-idea thread, that fits the topic being discussed:
"# 6600
When Aang and company arrive at the Northern Air Temple, they meet the Mechanist and his daughter Lucca. While the Mechanist has concentrated on his steampunk nonsense, Lucca has followed her own pursuits, culminating in the invention of a short-range teleporter!
But when Katara volunteers to try out the teleporter, her necklace takes on a strange glow, and the machine malfunctions. A strange portal opens, swallowing Katara. A worried Sokka and Aang, using Kya's necklace, follow her through the portal only to find themselves on the doorstep of the Northern Water Tribe's city... some sixty-five years in the past, mere days after Kanna fled the North Pole. Before they can find Katara, NWT search parties do, thinking she's runaway bride Kanna.
And so begins a sweeping journey that will take Team Avatar from the dawn of time to the far future, revealing the origin of the Avatar Spirit, bending, and the doom that sleeps at the heart of the world.
(AtLA/Chrono Trigger fusion)"
"# 6600
When Aang and company arrive at the Northern Air Temple, they meet the Mechanist and his daughter Lucca. While the Mechanist has concentrated on his steampunk nonsense, Lucca has followed her own pursuits, culminating in the invention of a short-range teleporter!
But when Katara volunteers to try out the teleporter, her necklace takes on a strange glow, and the machine malfunctions. A strange portal opens, swallowing Katara. A worried Sokka and Aang, using Kya's necklace, follow her through the portal only to find themselves on the doorstep of the Northern Water Tribe's city... some sixty-five years in the past, mere days after Kanna fled the North Pole. Before they can find Katara, NWT search parties do, thinking she's runaway bride Kanna.
And so begins a sweeping journey that will take Team Avatar from the dawn of time to the far future, revealing the origin of the Avatar Spirit, bending, and the doom that sleeps at the heart of the world.
(AtLA/Chrono Trigger fusion)"
No need to follow the plot of CT so closely.
1-Katara can Waterbend, but Kanna can't.
2-Katara being forced to marry Pakku won;'t prevent her from being born. No real paradox to cause problems.
3-There's the danger of double!Avatar Spirit for time periods outside of Aang being in the iceberg, since he's the reincarnation of the other avatars.
I suppose integrating the Spirit World into the teleporter could be used as phlebotnium for travelling through time..
1-Katara can Waterbend, but Kanna can't.
2-Katara being forced to marry Pakku won;'t prevent her from being born. No real paradox to cause problems.
3-There's the danger of double!Avatar Spirit for time periods outside of Aang being in the iceberg, since he's the reincarnation of the other avatars.
I suppose integrating the Spirit World into the teleporter could be used as phlebotnium for travelling through time..
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I got one better for you.
The Avatar has gone missing before, just not for very long periods--most people figured he or she was either training or doing something somewhere or en route, etc.
The disappearances, be them in suspended animation or traveling to the spirit world for a long time, correlate to when another Avatar time travels.
I got one better for you.
The Avatar has gone missing before, just not for very long periods--most people figured he or she was either training or doing something somewhere or en route, etc.
The disappearances, be them in suspended animation or traveling to the spirit world for a long time, correlate to when another Avatar time travels.
Can't remember if something like this has been suggested or not. Fire Lady Ilah (Azulon's wife) doesn't survive labor while giving birth to Ozai, and neither does the new baby. Iroh was twenty-one in canon when Ozai was born; here, he's now an only child.
Time-skip a few decades. Iroh's son, Lu Ten, decides to serve in the Fire Navy instead of in the army, figuring that it would not be safe to have the whole Fire Nation line of succession in one branch of service. He may also have already married, and per one of his trips home, have his own heir on the way to keep the line of succession alive.
Without Lu Ten there to be killed (ambush), Iroh never has cause to break the siege, so eventually Ba Sing Se either falls or surrenders.
A few years later, in routine passage through the general area of the South Pole, a Fire Nation ship (scout, maybe slightly larger), spots a mysterious pillar of light...
Time-skip a few decades. Iroh's son, Lu Ten, decides to serve in the Fire Navy instead of in the army, figuring that it would not be safe to have the whole Fire Nation line of succession in one branch of service. He may also have already married, and per one of his trips home, have his own heir on the way to keep the line of succession alive.
Without Lu Ten there to be killed (ambush), Iroh never has cause to break the siege, so eventually Ba Sing Se either falls or surrenders.
A few years later, in routine passage through the general area of the South Pole, a Fire Nation ship (scout, maybe slightly larger), spots a mysterious pillar of light...
This is an idea that is well beyond my meager abilities to write...
The concept, in a nut shell, is that the 100 years of war is not nearly so... clear cut. When Aang wakes up, the world isn't the Fire Nation vs. Everyone Else... it's an "Each Element for Itself" free for all across the entire planet, and even that can be misleading...
Long version: Sozin's comet wasn't nearly as powerful as in the original story (or at least its effects were much shorter lived) and the other nations at the time were equally ambitious...
First, the moment the comets effects start to wane, the Earth Kingdom and the Northern Water Tribe launch separate assaults against the fire nation, in an attempt to wipe THEM out. This fails, but it starts a world of war that will last for a century, with the people of each element trying to eliminate and/or dominate all others.
This is made even more complicated in that the Fire Nation failed to wipe out all the Air Nomads. Those that remain stop being Monks and Nuns, and organize much more like the historical Mongols... including city-destroying raids.
It gets even more complicated as one considers that most of these nations have factions within themselves, vying for control... the most obvious of which be the division of the Northern and Southern Water Tribes.
This is the world Aang wakes up to.
Now, to make things easier, the canon characters should still be around, but they will all be different, too.
For example, in this world, it was the Norther Water Tribe that chose to consolidate all the Water Benders under their own flag, and those of the Southern Tribe that wouldn't go willingly were taken by force. Katara is still the last Southern Water Tribe water bender, but she doesn't want to go to the Northern Tribe to learn... she wants to try and rescue any of her fellow Tribesmen that are being held by the Northern Tribe.
I haven't really come up with more beyond that, save for some vague idea of the White Lotus Society trying, and failing for a century, to stop the wars... but as I said, this is well beyond my ability...
The concept, in a nut shell, is that the 100 years of war is not nearly so... clear cut. When Aang wakes up, the world isn't the Fire Nation vs. Everyone Else... it's an "Each Element for Itself" free for all across the entire planet, and even that can be misleading...
Long version: Sozin's comet wasn't nearly as powerful as in the original story (or at least its effects were much shorter lived) and the other nations at the time were equally ambitious...
First, the moment the comets effects start to wane, the Earth Kingdom and the Northern Water Tribe launch separate assaults against the fire nation, in an attempt to wipe THEM out. This fails, but it starts a world of war that will last for a century, with the people of each element trying to eliminate and/or dominate all others.
This is made even more complicated in that the Fire Nation failed to wipe out all the Air Nomads. Those that remain stop being Monks and Nuns, and organize much more like the historical Mongols... including city-destroying raids.
It gets even more complicated as one considers that most of these nations have factions within themselves, vying for control... the most obvious of which be the division of the Northern and Southern Water Tribes.
This is the world Aang wakes up to.
Now, to make things easier, the canon characters should still be around, but they will all be different, too.
For example, in this world, it was the Norther Water Tribe that chose to consolidate all the Water Benders under their own flag, and those of the Southern Tribe that wouldn't go willingly were taken by force. Katara is still the last Southern Water Tribe water bender, but she doesn't want to go to the Northern Tribe to learn... she wants to try and rescue any of her fellow Tribesmen that are being held by the Northern Tribe.
I haven't really come up with more beyond that, save for some vague idea of the White Lotus Society trying, and failing for a century, to stop the wars... but as I said, this is well beyond my ability...
Another thing that could be interesting as a setup is if Iroh had another kid.
Iroh's wife died shortly after giving birth to his son, but during the war he falls in love with one of the servant girls taken from the captured territories.
Lu Ten dies, but there was already word sent that Iroh has another child on the way...
Iroh's wife died shortly after giving birth to his son, but during the war he falls in love with one of the servant girls taken from the captured territories.
Lu Ten dies, but there was already word sent that Iroh has another child on the way...
Azulon might not even know who the mother is.
The fire nation does have female soldiers as well as male ones...
Azulon dies but doesn't change who the heir is, people raise the legitimacy issue and Ozai capitalizes on it creating eventually leading to a Civil War. Backing Iroh and his son or daughter as the legitimate heir to the throne or backing Ozai and Zuko/Azula due to Iroh's halfbreed child.
Hell, have Iroh actually win the siege and have the entire world at every ones throats while the Southern Water Tribe stays out of the war as it engulfed the Northern Tribe.
The fire nation does have female soldiers as well as male ones...
Azulon dies but doesn't change who the heir is, people raise the legitimacy issue and Ozai capitalizes on it creating eventually leading to a Civil War. Backing Iroh and his son or daughter as the legitimate heir to the throne or backing Ozai and Zuko/Azula due to Iroh's halfbreed child.
Hell, have Iroh actually win the siege and have the entire world at every ones throats while the Southern Water Tribe stays out of the war as it engulfed the Northern Tribe.