Avatar:TLA Miscellaneous Ideas Thread

Rabe

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#51
How about a story set well before the show deep in its prehistory.

It shows the air benders before then went pacifist .

back when all humans still live in the area that would become the Earth Kingdom Desert and the spirits still roamed the wild places. The Air nomad winter camps/Temple locations would then be four corners of the known world.

It would show the rise and fall of a air nomad/mongol horde type culture.

Then over centuries of story time every group would get to wear the evil pants for a few generations.

All the while their actions slowly and sometime violently reshaping the world with a series of rebalancing conflicts.

That eventually leads us to the world that Aang thought he knew.

Que us and the Avatar's previous lives trying to help Aang sidestep all of the old mistake without make an ass load of new ones.

so any thoughts?
any takers?
 
#52
I actually have a "militaristic Air Nomad's" fic.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4586900/1/Avatar_Last_Firebender

The premise is slightly different. It starts same as canon 100 years back. The big difference is that Aang doesn't end up frozen, and the Air Nomads manage to survive Sozin's comet. Experiencing near-genocide, the Air Nomads decide that pacifism is for the birds

Flash forward 100 years later....
 

grant

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#53
Good writing but it really bends over to make Azula a nicer character.

Normally you could say 'it's an AU, there are going to be changes' but in this case the majority of the other characters keep most of their character.
 

drakensis

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#54
Another idea: the Blue Spirit a la the Scarlet Pimpernel

Prince Zuko is a whiny, bratty emo. Before anyone says anything, I mean worse. Think his portrayal in the abridged series multiplied by that in Ember Island Players. In most cases where he would in canon have done anything decent or worthwhile, the Blue Spirit turns up to save the day (when Aang discovers his identity, he is persuaded to keep it quiet). The Blue Spirit, of course, is silent, stoic and heroic. The few exceptions have Zuko being insanely annoying and aggravating about his deeds

The difference in character should be played to extremes: for example, Azula despises Zuko even more than she did in canon, but downright lusts after the Blue Spirit, as the only man worthy to stand beside her. Zhao hates Zuko with unholy passion after being defeated by the 'prancing nancy boy' but is utterly terrified of the Blue Spirit. Iroh, flipping matters around, thinks that the Blue Spirit is a dangerous loose cannon doing more harm than good, but considers Zuko a good boy at heart, just going through a phase.

And Zuko merrily plays both his personas against each other:

Prince Zuko: Curse that Blue Spirit! He's foiled me this time, by immunising the waterbender against my manly chest by swooping around in tight black clothes, but I shall have my revenge!
 

crazyfoxdemon

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#56
It'd be kinda interesting if the Blue Spirit was sorta like teh Dread Pirate Roberts...
 

Veld

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#57
I have 2 ideas for Avatar.

First, after Hama discovers Blood Bending and escapes from the Fire Nation, Roku appears to her a la Jeong Jeong and gets her to go back to the Southern Water Tribe. From there let your imagination run wild.

Second, when Zuko challenges Azula to Agni Kai, she accepts. Zuko holds his own and which makes her resort to lightning. He redirects it and the Dai Li Earthbend to save her. I think this would cause her to go crazy early and Zuko seeing that Azula has weaknesses could decide to side with Iroh and the Avatar.
 
#59
grant said:
Good writing but it really bends over to make Azula a nicer character.

Normally you could say 'it's an AU, there are going to be changes' but in this case the majority of the other characters keep most of their character.
Nicer... I guess, but she really isn't very nice. She kills people as her first option, and regularly threatens to kill helpless people(only reason she didn't execute the quartermaster was because he was already dead). She only recruits Sokka and Katara because they're useful (or at least Katara is). Heck, she blatantly lies to Katara about being able to learn waterbending up north. She acts friendlier, but as pointed out in chapters 11 and 15, that's as much pragmatism and genuine feelings.


I mean, I'm agree that she's nicer.... but she's still kind of a bitch. It also has to do with the characters, Katara and Sokka ended up under similiar circumstances, with the major difference being who they lost their mother to. Hama and Bumi, and the other hand, are very different. While Bumi still adopts and veneer of jolliness, he's far more cynical and bitter.
 

grant

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#60
I'd actually always thought of Bumi that way. He seemed to have some kind of insane humor to balance out a world weary attitude.


After reading further I will give the author one piece of credit, the back story was well crafted. I particularly liked the description of how misinterpretation over an island led both sides to a war they didn't want. It reminded me of descriptions of KGB and CIA guesses about each others policies, whoever they are they definitely read history and poli sci.
 

Hashasheen

Well-Known Member
#61
Veld said:
I have 2 ideas for Avatar.

First, after Hama discovers Blood Bending and escapes from the Fire Nation, Roku appears to her a la Jeong Jeong and gets her to go back to the Southern Water Tribe. From there let your imagination run wild.
Hama would have to meet Aang for that to happen. It was when he was arguing with him that Roku appeared.
 
#62
grant said:
I'd actually always thought of Bumi that way. He seemed to have some kind of insane humor to balance out a world weary attitude.


After reading further I will give the author one piece of credit, the back story was well crafted. I particularly liked the description of how misinterpretation over an island led both sides to a war they didn't want. It reminded me of descriptions of KGB and CIA guesses about each others policies, whoever they are they definitely read history and poli sci.
I am the author.
 

grant

Well-Known Member
#63
Ah, I assumed 'have' meant 'have in my collection'. And before you ask, I never bother to actually look at the author's name. If it's a good fic I just favorite it without bothering to check who wrote it.
 

zerohour

Well-Known Member
#64
Going back to the possibility that not all of the Airbenders were killed, since they are most likely scattered across the world, what would happen when the survivors discovered what had happened?

Sure, a lot of them would go into hiding, and simply disappear, but there are bound to be some who go a little nuts when they learn that their people have essentially been exterminated. My question is, what new bending techniques would the grief stricken Airbenders come up with?

Couple of options:

-Taking Aang's knowledge of the Windsword, it's possible that some of them will become swordsmen/swordmasters/assassins. By using a regular blade, people will assume they can't bend, and be in for a shock when they take a swing and the blade is suddenly 2 feet longer.

-SuperSoldier!Airbenders, who use Airbending to speed up their movements and add speed and power to their attacks. Probably not too different from what we saw from Aang, but they would be less about love and peace and more about kill the enemy.

- Manipulating the air means they can manipulate the clouds, which leads us to WeatherWitch!Airbenders. This would probably take several months to learn at an absolute minimum, and would probably take years or even decades to fully master. It would be a simple matter to direct clouds at each other and create rain, but orchestrating a hurricane or thunderstorm then directing it at your target would take a lot more work.


Any other Airbending Variants you can think of?


Random question: Did Ty Lee ever use her paralysis/chi blocking techniques on Aang? I'm pretty sure she didn't, but I'd like to double check.
 

zeebee1

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#65
Someone who can fly should have massive mblity. Aang knew little about actual fighting, but an aerial style, combined with ranged attacks, would be exceedingly effective.
 
#66
zerohour said:
-Taking Aang's knowledge of the Windsword, it's possible that some of them will become swordsmen/swordmasters/assassins.? By using a regular blade, people will assume they can't bend, and be in for a shock when they take a swing and the blade is suddenly 2 feet longer.

-SuperSoldier!Airbenders, who use Airbending to speed up their movements and add speed and power to their attacks.? Probably not too different from what we saw from Aang, but they would be less about love and peace and more about kill the enemy.
The windsword was pretty clearly a throwaway joke. Unlike Anime, Air isn't sharp. If I saw someone slicing someone in half with airbending, I'd be leaving that fic pretty fast.

The supersoilder idea, works. And can be expanded assuming a less pacifistic mindset there are a number of very nasty tricks airbending can accomplish.

Off the top of my head.

Remember the marble trick Aang showed in episode 4? Imagine using that to accelerate them to high speeds, then letting them go. You could essentially make, Airbender bullets.

Or carry bags of powder/gas based poison. Then use airbending to manipulate them.

While I imagine that actually manipulation the air inside someone lungs is out (the rules of the show seem to be that elements inside you body require a power-up to manipulate. You might be able to move the air surrounding a person away, creating a vacuum and causing the lungs to collapse as the air rushes out. Or simply manipulate the air near them to prevent them breathing it in, takes slightly longer, but still strangles them.
 

crazyfoxdemon

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#67

grant

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#68
While I imagine that actually manipulation the air inside someone lungs is out (the rules of the show seem to be that elements inside you body require a power-up to manipulate. You might be able to move the air surrounding a person away, creating a vacuum and causing the lungs to collapse as the air rushes out. Or simply manipulate the air near them to prevent them breathing it in, takes slightly longer, but still strangles them.
That was true until Katara used bloodbending (which she was supposed to hate and fear) to control a random captain during her 'self exploration with Zuko' episode without a full moon.

Aside from that there are actually a horde of ways to be as vicious as you'd like with it. Use air currents to keep dust in the sky for a long period of time, reducing the amount of sunlight and destroying crops (not to mention killing off the frail). Find some way to put large amounts of air in water, killing off the fish life. Using wind to drive a forest fire to a city...and I think I should go take my meds now.
 
#70
grant said:
While I imagine that actually manipulation the air inside someone lungs is out (the rules of the show seem to be that elements inside you body require a power-up to manipulate. You might be able to move the air surrounding a person away, creating a vacuum and causing the lungs to collapse as the air rushes out. Or simply manipulate the air near them to prevent them breathing it in, takes slightly longer, but still strangles them.
That was true until Katara used bloodbending (which she was supposed to hate and fear) to control a random captain during her 'self exploration with Zuko' episode without a full moon.

Aside from that there are actually a horde of ways to be as vicious as you'd like with it. Use air currents to keep dust in the sky for a long period of time, reducing the amount of sunlight and destroying crops (not to mention killing off the frail). Find some way to put large amounts of air in water, killing off the fish life. Using wind to drive a forest fire to a city...and I think I should go take my meds now.
There's clearly a full moon in the sky during the night she does the bloodbending. Check about 11 minutes 25 second into it, ust before they being the ninja assult.

Secondly all the other ways you listed interesting, but they are all long term strategies. Useful for warfare, but not if you want to fight individuals fights.
 

zeebee1

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#71
We know that firebenders are more powerful whent he suns out, and waterbenders get more power from the moon. We also know that a full moon gives even more power to waterbenders, but firebenders have to wait for a comet. Conversely waterbenders are weak during nights without a moon. But what changes the power of earth and airbenders?
 
#72
Waterbending is stronger at night in general, and considerably by a full moon. It is nullified in a lunar eclipse. Its season is winter.

Earthbending is limited to being on the ground unless you're powerful and skilled enough to manipulate metal. Wood may be anti-earthbending also. Its season is spring, so maybe it is strengthened by the equinox? That's just an idea.

Firebending is stronger when the sun is high, and massively strengthened by the comet, which has a hundred-year revolution. It is nullified by a solar eclipse. Its season is summer.

Airbending is probably the hardest to block, apart from vacuum conditions (which would kill everyone) and chi blocking (which affects everyone also). Airbending's season is fall, so it could be strengthened by the fall equinox.
 

crazyfoxdemon

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#73
nuclear death frog said:
Waterbending is stronger at night in general, and considerably by a full moon. It is nullified in a lunar eclipse. Its season is winter.

Firebending is stronger when the sun is high, and massively strengthened by the comet, which has a hundred-year revolution. It is nullified by a solar eclipse. Its season is summer.

Earthbending is limited to being on the ground unless you're powerful and skilled enough to manipulate metal. Wood may be anti-earthbending also. Its season is spring, so maybe it is strengthened by the equinox? That's just an idea.

Airbending is probably the hardest to block, apart from vacuum conditions (which would kill everyone) and chi blocking (which affects everyone also). Airbending's season is fall, so it could be strengthened by the fall equinox.
makes sense to me...
 

drakensis

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#74
New idea:

Azula was nine when she decided she was going to kill a Dragon to make her father proud. She cried (secretly) when she found out that her uncle had killed the last two already. It was perhaps unwise, certainly unfortunate, for Ozai to 'comfort' her by telling her she would prove herself in the war.

Azula was ten when she ran away to join the war effort, stowing away on a warship that wound up raiding the south pole. She cried (secretly) when she found out that war was less a romatic adventure that she imagined. It was perhaps unwise, certainly unfortunate, for a fire nation soldier to cut down a water tribe girl in full view of Azula.

Azula was eleven when Katara found her, freezing to death, wandering the ice, lost in more ways than one. She cried when Hakoda told her that a fire nation girl had no place in their village, and helped Azula to take shelter in the nearby wreck of a fire nation warship. It was perhaps unwise, certainly unfortunate, for Sokka to blame Azula for the death of Kya and goaded Katara into running away to join 'her friend the firebender' after Hakoda's departure.

Azula was fifteen when she and Katara found the Avatar...

Could go many ways, but a couple of things seem likely:
Azula may have spent ten years as Ozai's child but she's spent five years with Katara as pretty much her only human contact. So she'll probably be significantly different but still possessive (Katara is hers!) and probably views her early childhood through rose-tinted vision and the war through a bloody-tint.

Sokka hates Azula. Hate hate hate lust hate hate... She is, after all, the only girl he knows close to his age that isn't related to him. Regrets driving Katara away but too proud to apologise even though they have patched things up to some extent.

Katara and Azula are best female friends and fellow benders. Katara didn't sever ties to the whole village but despite Kanna's entreaties, hasn't moved back there, even though she goes there most days. She's a somewhat better bender, having picked up a few tricks from Azula and a little less naively optimistic. Quite possibly has a mild girl!crush upon Azula.

Zuko, as the sole heir, probably doesn't get sent into exile even if he does mouth off. He's got Ozai's attention to ensure he shapes up and probably doesn't find it as nice as he expected. Iroh has been kept at a distance to avoid softening him, with the result that the old man has descended into trying to kill himself with alcohol and other pleasures of the flesh.

Aang, of course, is cheerily oblivious. Without Zuko's presence there is no real prod to send him off, so he leaves the south pole a little later with Azula, Katara and Sokka accompanying him to the Southern Air Temple and eventually the north pole. Sokka would like to find Hakoda, Katara seeks a waterbending master and Azula has a highly unrealistic notion of patching up a peace between Ozai and the Avatar. Once Aang goes Avatar State at the temple, the Fire Nation begin a great search for him, with Zhao as the initial enemy.

From there, unsure.
 
#75
Can't see it. There was an episode with a fair number of flashback scenes showing Azula several years younger, and she was a vicious piece of work. Getting the idea to challenge a dragon, that, I could see, but her being friends with a Waterbender peasant? Hell no. Mai and Ty Lee aren't Firebenders, but both are at least Fire Nation (Mai is a nobleman's daughter and Ty Lee almost certainly is as well) and Azula finds their skills useful.
 
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