Avatar:TLA Miscellaneous Ideas Thread

There isn't anything that says that the Avatar incarnation has to switch genders every new turn; in fact that's directly contradicted by Roku and Aang both being male. It just happens to be that, barring the very rare genetic defects that pop up once in a long while, there are only two working sexes, so the odds are basically 50/50. And the creators decided that the Avatar following Aang is a girl from the Southern Water Tribe.

But even that had some element of fiat -- all that was really required was that the Avatar following Aang be Water Tribe, period; whether Northern, Southern, or Foggy Swamp. It could have been any of them. The creators chose Southern.
 

crazyfoxdemon

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What if Aang, Sokka, and Katara ran across Pian Dao earlier? Like maybe when they were in the Fire Nation in season 1? How would that affect things?
 

biigoh

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What if Aang was in truth a girl... and no one knew until... well... she developed certain attributes. :lol:
 

crazyfoxdemon

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biigoh said:
What if Aang was in truth a girl... and no one knew until... well... she developed certain attributes. :lol:
Lesbian?

If yes, then I support this whole heartedly...
 

biigoh

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crazyfoxdemon said:
biigoh said:
What if Aang was in truth a girl... and no one knew until... well... she developed certain attributes.? :lol:
Lesbian?

If yes, then I support this whole heartedly...
Goodness me, no... just a girl.

Which they discover when Aang grows boobs. And is PUZZLED at the reactions of the others.

He thought boys didn't have things down there. Wasn't he a boy? :lol:
 

zeebee1

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She was raised among the male monks, so some confusion would be expected.
 

crazyfoxdemon

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biigoh said:
crazyfoxdemon said:
biigoh said:
What if Aang was in truth a girl... and no one knew until... well... she developed certain attributes.á :lol:
Lesbian?

If yes, then I support this whole heartedly...
Goodness me, no... just a girl.

Which they discover when Aang grows boobs. And is PUZZLED at the reactions of the others.

He thought boys didn't have things down there. Wasn't he a boy? :lol:
But if Aang thought that she was a boy and has a crush on Katara before finding out that she is a girl. Wouldn't that make her a lesbian? Or at least bi? Since she was attracted to a female?
 

zeebee1

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I think at the beginning Aang was attracted due to things like personality. He was bit young to have a sexual crush.
 

crazyfoxdemon

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zeebee1 said:
I think at the beginning Aang was attracted due to things like personality. He was bit young to have a sexual crush.
In the first episode, before he even knows Katara's personality.. He shows an interest..
 

zeebee1

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She was probably the first girl he ever saw. The males and females tended to live on different floating islands. Some things can be attributed to hormones.
 
There's no way Katara was the first girl Aang ever saw; he'd have seen them in Omashu, wherever in the Fire Nation his friend Kuzon lived, and in the Eastern Air Temple at least. Yes, his home (and all the Air temples for that matter) was gender-segregated, but the rest of the world isn't.

I will, however, lay odds on Katara being the first girl Aang ever found attractive, and that eventually became love.
 

Masterly

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nuclear death frog said:
There's no way Katara was the first girl Aang ever saw; he'd have seen them in Omashu, wherever in the Fire Nation his friend Kuzon lived, and in the Eastern Air Temple at least. Yes, his home (and all the Air temples for that matter) was gender-segregated, but the rest of the world isn't.

I will, however, lay odds on Katara being the first girl Aang ever found attractive, and that eventually became love.
Awwww yeah, lesbian pedophilia.
 
This may have been suggested.

What if, when Aang and Appa crashed into the ocean during that great thunder-storm, the Avatar state had not awakened and both of them had simply drowned?

I don't think Pakku's age has been specified, so if Aang had died at twelve, he is a good candidate. In fact, that would be a good reason for the Fire Nation's first invasion of the North Pole to have failed, fifteen years into the war. A fifteen year-old Pakku, not knowing yet that he is the Avatar, but who had recently become a Waterbending master, awakens the Avatar state while in danger during that first invasion attempt. He thwarts it, and since his status is now out, he begins his training journey only slightly early.

I don't know where this would go, other than that with the Avatar in play decades earlier, the war would not last nearly as long. Say a late twenties Avatar Pakku facing Fire Lord Azulon (his age peer) and demanding the hostilities be ceased, or else.

Bumi would be a good candidate to teach Avatar Pakku to Earthbend, but it would need an OC (most likely) to teach him Firebending, and there would be nobody to teach him Airbending, unless some monks or nuns escaped their respective temples' destruction somehow.

Thoughts?
 

zeebee1

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Are their any lands ruled by women. Because he'd be a terrible diplomat to those places. But seriously, his disrespect for females would have to come out. The best way to deal with it is have one of his teachers be a woman that is on the same level as Azulon. Which means if Bumi teaches him the woman would have to be a fire bender.

The big thing would be to address what the lack of air benders does to the whole mystical cycle.
 

Flamewolf

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zeebee1 said:
Are their any lands ruled by women. Because he'd be a terrible diplomat to those places. But seriously, his disrespect for females would have to come out. The best way to deal with it is have one of his teachers be a woman that is on the same level as Azulon. Which means if Bumi teaches him the moan would have to be a fire bender.

The big thing would be to address what the lack of air benders does to the whole mystical cycle.
what do moans have to do with firebending?
 

Hashasheen

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nuclear death frog said:
This may have been suggested.

What if, when Aang and Appa crashed into the ocean during that great thunder-storm, the Avatar state had not awakened and both of them had simply drowned?

I don't think Pakku's age has been specified, so if Aang had died at twelve, he is a good candidate. In fact, that would be a good reason for the Fire Nation's first invasion of the North Pole to have failed, fifteen years into the war. A fifteen year-old Pakku, not knowing yet that he is the Avatar, but who had recently become a Waterbending master, awakens the Avatar state while in danger during that first invasion attempt. He thwarts it, and since his status is now out, he begins his training journey only slightly early.

I don't know where this would go, other than that with the Avatar in play decades earlier, the war would not last nearly as long. Say a late twenties Avatar Pakku facing Fire Lord Azulon (his age peer) and demanding the hostilities be ceased, or else.

Bumi would be a good candidate to teach Avatar Pakku to Earthbend, but it would need an OC (most likely) to teach him Firebending, and there would be nobody to teach him Airbending, unless some monks or nuns escaped their respective temples' destruction somehow.

Thoughts?
Jeong Jeong could be the firebender... You could have Aang's master be the one to teach him airbending, making the assumption he left the temple to look for Aang?
 
Jeong Jeong wasn't born until forty years into the war; his wanted poster states that he's sixty years old. All the Asian writing displayed at various points in the show is translatable; it is either all, or at least mostly, Traditional Chinese, iirc.

Gyatso is not a bad choice, if he is decided to be alive.
 

Hashasheen

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nuclear death frog said:
Jeong Jeong wasn't born until forty years into the war; his wanted poster states that he's sixty years old. All the Asian writing displayed at various points in the show is translatable; it is either all, or at least mostly, Traditional Chinese, iirc.

Gyatso is not a bad choice, if he is decided to be alive.
Dragons then?
 
Ah, good call.
 
Idea: When Aang was frozen the powers that be considered him as good as dead and passed on the avatar power to the next down the line. 100 years later Aang is revived and later discovers he's no longer the avatar.
 
Stupid Idea: Azula vs Santa. Were other nations were told that Santa was a kind spirit who rewarded the good with presents and the Naughty with Coal the fire nation had it in reverse. Santa was an evil spirit summoned by the petty Ari nomads to curse the Fire Nation, until the great and super awesome Firelord put his foot up his spirit ass and made him his bitch, to forever reward the good little children coal to burn and the bad ones cursed toys.

Azula, the epitome of a perfect fire nation child, would always receive enough coal every Winter Solstice to power the entire fleet for the coming year even if it meant traumatizing little Zuzu more. But one year she decided she wanted more, for this year she would not only take all of santa's wonderful coal but his bag of toys too! And thus began Azula quest to destroy christmas.
 

Jryu

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Master of Squirrel-Fu said:
Idea: When Aang was frozen the powers that be considered him as good as dead and passed on the avatar power to the next down the line. 100 years later Aang is revived and later discovers he's no longer the avatar.
Actually, that reminds me of an odd idea I once had... and if someone has already done this, please direct me to it!

The idea is, basically pulling something out of BtVS - When Aang is trapped in the ice, the powers of the Avatar move on... but when he is freed, he still has them (or, at least, is still a powerful bending prodigy able to bend all four elements, even if the Avatar spirit passed on down the line...)
 

zeebee1

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Aang can't stop being the Avatar, and it wouldn't be healthy for anyone to be the Avatar until he's dead. He is the reincarnation of the previous Avatar, the Avatar spirit is a specialized form of soul, and I can't imagine it would be healthy for two people to have the same soul.
 

bzzt3421

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I'm nearly certain that the Avatar is merely the vessel for the world spirit. Hence how the next Avatar can be born on the same time as the previous one dies. It's merely transfering hosts, not reincarnating.
 

Prince Charon

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bzzt3421 said:
I'm nearly certain that the Avatar is merely the vessel for the world spirit. Hence how the next Avatar can be born on the same time as the previous one dies. It's merely transfering hosts, not reincarnating.
... or, souls just arrive in a body later than you think they do.

OTOH, there was something in the series about a previous Avatar wandering the spirit world searching for his lost love, and he's still there after Aang wakes up. If true, that implies a spirit separate from the soul.
 
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