Average Scores of PS3/360 exclusives.

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
#1
So I wrote a python script that scraped the wikipedia list of all PS3 and 360 exclusives, and then crossreferenced metacritic to create a score.

Main reason for this is that, now that the PS4 and Xbone are out, I can start getting PS3/360 games/console for cheap. Since all non-exclusive PS3/360 games that I want I got on the PC, this is basically a list for 'how much money am I willing to spend for this console for the only games on it I don't have.'
Figured you guys might get some use out of it as well, so enjoy.

Format is
score console title

94 360 Halo 3
93 360 Gears ofWar 2
92 360 Forza Motorsport 3
91 360 Forza Motorsport 4
91 360 Gears of War 3
91 360 Halo: Reach
90 360 Forza Motorsport 2
88 360 Project Gotham Racing 3
88 360 Shadow Complex
87 360 Halo 4
86 360 Dance Central 2
86 360 Dance Central 3
85 360 Dead or Alive 4
85 360 Forza Horizon
85 360 Project Gotham Racing 4
83 360 Halo 3: ODST
82 360 Dance Central
82 360 Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary
82 360 Halo Wars
81 360 Ninja Gaiden II
81 360 Perfect Dark Zero
81 360 Saints Row
80 360 Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation
80 360 MotoGP '06
80 360 Naruto: The Broken Bond
79 360 Blue Dragon
79 360 Gears of War: Judgment
79 360 Kameo: Elements of Power
79 360 Sesame Street: Once Upon a Monster
78 360 Kinect Nat Geo TV
78 360 Lost Odyssey
78 360 Naruto: Rise of a Ninja
77 360 The Gunstringer
76 360 Deathsmiles
76 360 Kinect Sesame Street TV
76 360 Scene It? Box Office Smash
75 360 Culdcept Saga
74 360 Kinectimals
74 360 Ridge Racer 6
73 360 Kinect Disneyland Adventures
73 360 Kinect Sports
73 360 NBA Baller Beats
73 360 Scene It? Lights Camera Action
72 360 Amped 3
72 360 Race Pro
71 360 Chromehounds
71 360 Lips
70 360 Crackdown 2
70 360 Full Auto
70 360 Lips: Number One Hits
70 360 The Outfit
69 360 Lips: Party Classics
68 360 Infinite Undiscovery
68 360 The Biggest Loser: Ultimate Workout
66 360 Fantastic Pets
66 360 Kinect Sports: Season Two
65 360 Too Human
64 360 Project Sylpheed
63 360 Namco Museum Virtual Arcade
62 360 Rumble Roses XX
61 360 Fable: The Journey
61 360 Kinect Adventures!
61 360 PowerUp Heroes
57 360 Body and Brain Connection
56 360 Carnival Games: Monkey See Monkey Do
56 360 Guilty Gear 2: Overture
55 360 Bullet Witch
55 360 Kinect Star Wars
55 360 Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom
55 360 You're in the Movies
54 360 Harry Potter for Kinect
52 360 Kinect Joy Ride
50 360 Adrenalin Misfits
49 360 Dragon Ball Z for Kinect
49 360 Fuzion Frenzy 2
49 360 Over G Fighters
49 360 Yoostar on MTV
48 360 Michael Phelps: Push The Limit
47 360 Sonic Free Riders
46 360 Operation Darkness
46 360 Zoids Assault
43 360 America's Army: True Soldiers
40 360 MotionSports
40 360 Naval Assault: The Killing Tide
39 360 Onechanbara: Bikini Samurai Squad
39 360 Wipeout in the Zone
38 360 Kengo: Legend of the 9
38 360 Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor
34 360 Bomberman: Act Zero
33 360 Game Party: In Motion
33 360 MorphX
26 360 Hulk Hogans Main Event


96 PS3 Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
95 PS3 LittleBigPlanet
95 PS3 The Last of Us
94 PS3 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
92 PS3 God of War III
92 PS3 Journey
92 PS3 Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception
91 PS3 Killzone 2
91 PS3 LittleBigPlanet 2
89 PS3 Demon's Souls
88 PS3 Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
87 PS3 Heavy Rain
87 PS3 Resistance 2
86 PS3 Resistance: Fall of Man
86 PS3 Valkyria Chronicles
85 PS3 inFamous
85 PS3 Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch
84 PS3 Gran Turismo 5
84 PS3 Killzone 3
84 PS3 MotorStorm
84 PS3 Warhawk
83 PS3 Comet Crash
83 PS3 inFamous 2
83 PS3 Resistance 3
82 PS3 Dragon's Crown
82 PS3 MotorStorm: Pacific Rift
82 PS3 SingStar
80 PS3 Disgaea 4: A Promise Unforgotten
80 PS3 God of War: Ascension
80 PS3 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
80 PS3 Puppeteer
79 PS3 Heavenly Sword
79 PS3 Yakuza 3
78 PS3 Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice
78 PS3 Ridge Racer 7
78 PS3 Tales of Xillia
78 PS3 Yakuza 4
77 PS3 3D Dot Game Heroes
77 PS3 MotorStorm: Apocalypse
77 PS3 Starhawk
76 PS3 MAG
76 PS3 SingStar Vol. 2
76 PS3 Sports Champions
76 PS3 Twisted Metal
75 PS3 The Eye of Judgment
75 PS3 Folklore
75 PS3 Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm
75 PS3 Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
74 PS3 Atelier Totori: The Adventurer of Arland
74 PS3 Disgaea D2: A Brighter Darkness
74 PS3 Formula One Championship Edition
74 PS3 Katamari Forever
74 PS3 Tokyo Jungle
73 PS3 LittleBigPlanet Karting
73 PS3 The Guided Fate Paradox
72 PS3 Wonderbook: Book of Spells
71 PS3 One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2
70 PS3 Atelier Ayesha: The Alchemist of Dusk
70 PS3 Beyond: Two Souls
70 PS3 Sorcery
69 PS3 Sports Champions 2
68 PS3 Legasista
67 PS3 Full Auto 2: Battlelines
67 PS3 Malicious
67 PS3 SOCOM 4: U.S. Navy SEALs
66 PS3 Atelier Meruru: The Apprentice of Arland
66 PS3 Carnival Island
65 PS3 Atelier Rorona: The Alchemist of Arland
65 PS3 SingStar Dance
64 PS3 One Piece: Pirate Warriors
64 PS3 Yakuza: Dead Souls
63 PS3 Afrika
63 PS3 PixelJunk 4am
63 PS3 SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation
62 PS3 PixelJunk Racers
62 PS3 Trinity Universe
61 PS3 Ar tonelico Qoga: Knell of Ar Ciel
61 PS3 Medieval Moves: Deadmund's Quest
60 PS3 The Shoot
60 PS3 Time Crisis 4
60 PS3 White Knight Chronicles II
58 PS3 Time Crisis: Razing Storm
58 PS3 Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
56 PS3 Record of Agarest War 2
56 PS3 Saint Seiya: Brave Soldiers
56 PS3 TV Superstars
55 PS3 Genji: Days of the Blade
55 PS3 Mugen Souls
55 PS3 Start the Party!
55 PS3 Trinity: Souls of Zill O'll
54 PS3 Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory
53 PS3 Hyperdimension Neptunia Mk2
53 PS3 Lair
53 PS3 PlayStation Move Heroes
45 PS3 Hyperdimension Neptunia
44 PS3 Last Rebellion
43 PS3 PlayStation Move Ape Escape
42 PS3 Time and Eternity
36 PS3 Kung Fu Rider
33 PS3 Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire



# games with 80+ score for 360: 25
# games with 80+ score for PS3: 31

# games with 90+ score for 360: 7
# games with 90+ score for PS3: 9

EDIT: A few games on this list I scraped were also on PC, it was a list of console exclusives. I manually removed the following games that were on other platforms:
82 PS3 ModNation Racers
81 PS3 Closure
80 PS3 PixelJunk Eden

94 360 Gears of War
89 360 Left 4 Dead
89 360 Left 4 Dead 2
86 360 Trials HD
83 360 Alan Wake
82 360 Minecraft
81 360 Toy Soldiers
81 360 Toy Soldiers: Cold War
81 360 Condemned: Criminal Origins
79 360 Prey
75 360 Frontlines: Fuel of War
63 360 Raiden IV
60 360 Risen
60 360 WarTech: Senko no Ronde
46 360 Samurai Shodown: Sen
44 360 Darkest of Days
 

~NGD OMEGA~

Well-Known Member
#2
This is probably common knowledge but always realize scores are at best a starting point for this sort of thing so don't pin your hopes purely on 90+ games blindly, and in turn don't scoff at the stuff below 80 unless the reviews are pointing out glaring flaws that you know you'd personally just hate. Better idea is probably to catalog these into your preferred generic genres first, then start looking at scores to narrow down the good ones as you go through it on a case by case basis, before going into the actual reviews themselves to see whether or not there are bits in there you really happen to hate.

And especially look into if the Multiplayer component is still active somewhat at this point if that's a focus point of the game (And of course what you're specifically buying it for). Would suck to buy a dead multiplayer game with a really shit single player component. Then there's also probably issues with you being unleveled but I don't really do Multiplayer at all so I've got no clue how that goes down, and it might in itself be on a game by game basis too so better look up that as well if possible. Either way just keep this in mind at least because that's probably the greatest main weakness of not getting in on a console/multiplayer game day one. Doesn't really affect me since I don't do Multiplayer ever, but for others it could be a big factor you want to look into.

Also a good idea to put the wackier titles into a bin to look at in depth later. The sort of stuff that can't really be categorized like normal, your Folklores and your Little Big Planets and what have you. You'll probably realize most shooters are shooters pretty early, and Uncharted and Arkham both started their own specific sort of generic genres themselves a bit ago that you can easily put them into boxes with. But there's always those weird games with the weird mechanics that stand out and are pretty unique in their own rights that you won't get the jist of until you personally take a more in depth look at them.

Then again I'm the guy who compiled a list of all the interesting stuff I wanted going to buy a PS3 or 360 for later, and quickly realized the 360 was long since out of the running a while ago. :snigger:
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
#3
Honestly, metacritic scores are pretty hit and miss to begin with. However, it's a good way to get a very general sort of feel for the quality of the game, which is what I'm interested in here- I know nearly none of these games, save the ones that are 90+, so having some sort of general idea of what's worth remembering when I go into a used game store is priceless.

E.G: Never heard of heavy rain, but aparently it's worth looking into. There's four 'Forza Motorsports' games that are rated extremely well? What be this 'Journey' that scored better than Uncharted?
 

~NGD OMEGA~

Well-Known Member
#4
Yeah, it's why I said they're good for a starting point, sort of weeding out the bad ones largely. Some people use them as gospel though, which I find laughable, especially since a lot of scores can be altered based on perceived fear of viewers dropping the site if too low a score is given for some games.

Especially with a lot of less savory people on the internet causing huge backlashes against sites with a perceived too low score. An 80 for GTA5 I believe was one of the more recent ones. Or maybe it was even just a 90.

Which is particularly hilarious because months later when the fervor dies down they tend to start agreeing with a lot of the Critic's issues with the game, Bioshock Infinite's 'Inferior Gameplay' to the originals being a good example of that happening I believe. Now that's generally somewhat accepted criticism rather than LIES AND SLANDER.
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
#5
Eh, to be fair, sometimes the reviewer really does have it wrong. Last shitstorm I've seen was Destructoid giving Link Between Worlds at 65. The comment section was delicious.

To be fair, I think destructoid mainly does shit like that just to get page hits. They kind of have a history. Which is another issue with metacritic: it includes the reviews that are just viewbaiting fanboys.
 

~NGD OMEGA~

Well-Known Member
#6
Also doesn't help that the number system itself is borked. Since when is anything under 7 particularly bad? The vast majority of games should be under seven, seven being average is patently absurd because more games are over it than not, meaning those games that are arbitrarily 'bad' tend to be completely arbitrary as to what score they get. Any score under seven, or at the very least 6 does not functionally matter because the scale is like this.

We have effectively 6 irrelevant bad values that aren't used effectively at all, and only 4 'good' ones that are too broad to get any sort of proper scaling with thanks to this bs. And don't get me started on adding the point values either. :sweat2:

Hell, almost makes me want to start a massively popular reviewing site where 1-4 are all the bad values and 5-10 covers decent to good, just to mess things up for them. :snigger:

What's particularly hilarious is that on paper that sounds actually right too. :huh:
 

grant

Well-Known Member
#7
Really ranking systems and humans don't work well together. We've got all sorts of biases and pressure to rank things in a certain way. And then you get issues like trying to compare two games of completely different genres and deciding which one is 'better' even when they're competing in completely different areas... well how are you supposed to decide what the game of the year was (which admittedly isn't that hard if you decide to just put games up for the prize that are all basically the same genre and type)?
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
#8
Honestly, I've always wanted to see a site that makes a review 'tree.'

You get a text review, and the reviewer marks it 'better than' or 'worse than' games of a similar type under different categories.

You end up with a multipartite, loosely linked graph for each review catagory.

Then you, the user, signal how important each part of a game is to you (like controls, story, gameplay, graphics, sound) and the mahalanobis distance of a game from the known compared games in the weighted tree is the review score- according to your own tastes.

Obviously the weights would be refined automatically- for example, by asking you to score some games. You can't trust the user to actually be able to quantify their own standards.
 

Contrabardus

Well-Known Member
#9
Shirotsume said:
Honestly, I've always wanted to see a site that makes a review 'tree.'

You get a text review, and the reviewer marks it 'better than' or 'worse than' games of a similar type under different categories.

You end up with a multipartite, loosely linked graph for each review catagory.

Then you, the user, signal how important each part of a game is to you (like controls, story, gameplay, graphics, sound) and the mahalanobis distance of a game from the known compared games in the weighted tree is the review score- according to your own tastes.

Obviously the weights would be refined automatically- for example, by asking you to score some games. You can't trust the user to actually be able to quantify their own standards.
In other words you want a game review site that works like Netflix and Hulu's GUI works?
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
#10
No clue. I don't really watch movies.
 

ragnarok1337

Well-Known Member
#11
I am fond of this review scale:

[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrcid8PWDuI[/video]

It's not perfect, but it's better than the standard. A good idea might be to just eliminate scores altogether.
 

Contrabardus

Well-Known Member
#12
Shirotsume said:
No clue. I don't really watch movies.
Both sites adjust content based on your watching history and ratings. You'll get different genre and sub-genre sections with individual movie/show selections based on your previous watch history and ratings. It also compares what you watch and how you rate things to other user's information and calculates an estimated review score for a particular show.

Netflix is meh if you don't watch movies, but Hulu is awesome for Anime fans. They have tons of it and a lot of it is both subtitled and dubbed. You might want to check out Hulu.
 

Contrabardus

Well-Known Member
#13
ragnarok1337 said:
I am fond of this review scale:

[video=youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrcid8PWDuI[/video]

It's not perfect, but it's better than the standard. A good idea might be to just eliminate scores altogether.
Any publisher that's been around for a while will tell you that getting rid of scores altogether only sounds like a good idea.

It's been tried by several outlets and the whining of idiots too lazy to read an article has always reached epic levels. It's not worth it to bother with trying because the vast majority of people who buy games are twitchy idiots who don't like to read.

If you've not noticed, the popularity of games has risen at the same rate as the amount of in game text that is required reading for gameplay as gone down. Even when there is text it's usually read to the player by a narrator.

Review scores aren't going anywhere. If a review site/publication doesn't have them, they get flooded with complaints until they adopt such a system.
 

PCHeintz72

The Sentient Fanfic Search Engine mk II
#14
Contrabardus said:
Shirotsume said:
No clue. I don't really watch movies.
Both sites adjust content based on your watching history and ratings. You'll get different genre and sub-genre sections with individual movie/show selections based on your previous watch history and ratings. It also compares what you watch and how you rate things to other user's information and calculates an estimated review score for a particular show.

Netflix is meh if you don't watch movies, but Hulu is awesome for Anime fans. They have tons of it and a lot of it is both subtitled and dubbed. You might want to check out Hulu.
Ugh.. glad I do not use Netflix, and Hulu I use the free version with no account or log in...

I dislike directed content.
 

Contrabardus

Well-Known Member
#15
PCHeintz72 said:
Contrabardus said:
Shirotsume said:
No clue. I don't really watch movies.
Both sites adjust content based on your watching history and ratings. You'll get different genre and sub-genre sections with individual movie/show selections based on your previous watch history and ratings. It also compares what you watch and how you rate things to other user's information and calculates an estimated review score for a particular show.

Netflix is meh if you don't watch movies, but Hulu is awesome for Anime fans. They have tons of it and a lot of it is both subtitled and dubbed. You might want to check out Hulu.
Ugh.. glad I do not use Netflix, and Hulu I use the free version with no account or log in...

I dislike directed content.
You can also browse normally and some sections aren't directed content, such as the 'Popular on Netflix', 'New Additions', or 'New Releases' sections.

It doesn't bother me with sites like Netflix because I tend to only browse through the newest stuff anyway, and generally if I'm looking for something older I already know what I'm looking for and just use the search engine to find it.
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
#16
This may shock you, but I don't particularly like anime. Same reason I don't like TV shows or movies- would much rather read it then sit there for hours having it shown to me in an inferior format.
 

Contrabardus

Well-Known Member
#17
Shirotsume said:
This may shock you, but I don't particularly like anime. Same reason I don't like TV shows or movies- would much rather read it then sit there for hours having it shown to me in an inferior format.
I don't mind Anime, but I'm not a huge fan either. I much prefer manga versions of stories. I can count the amount of anime shows and movies I watched in the last three years on one hand assuming you aren't counting porn of course. [See what I did there? One hand! >_< HAW!]

I grew up with Anime first though, so I do get in the mood for it from time to time. Hulu is always enough to satisfy that rare urge when it does crop up.
 
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