Bleach [Bleach]Random ideas topic

zeebee1

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#51
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I think that if Isshin trained Ichigo Ichigo would not be massively different. Isshin also seems like a power hitter. He'd probably make Ichigo into uber!Ichigo. You know, they guy who hits you so hard that the King felt it.
 

Ike

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#52
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zeebee1 said:
I think that if Isshin trained Ichigo Ichigo would not be massively different. Isshin also seems like a power hitter. He'd probably make Ichigo into uber!Ichigo. You know, they guy who hits you so hard that the King felt it.
Maybe... But he'd be hilariously awesome while doing it.
 

Ike

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#53
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"Oh, Masaki darling, I don't know if I can go on without you! Our poor children, having to live without their mother? I don't know if I can handle it!"

"Can it, dad! I miss Mom too, but you don't see me hugging that poster all the time!"

"Ichigo! Come to your father's bosom in a manly embrace!"

Sadly, this was a common scene in the Kurosaki household.

A year ago, Kurasaki Masaki died, leaving behind two baby girls and a young son.

Kurosaki Isshin noticed the changes his son had gone through, and while understanding them, didn't quite like them.

'Ichigo used to be so willing to embrace his father!'

But something had changed, recently.

Isshin's old friend Urahara had finally come through with some answers that Isshin asked.

Questions having to do with the circumstances of his wife's demise.

Questions that played into why his son's formerly massive reishi seemed to lock itself down.

"It was shock, Isshin-san. There was a... Hollow involved."

'Well... No son of mine is gonna hold in their reiatsu! No, I'm going to make him as manly as I can! And the most manly men I know have massive... reiatsu!'

Isshin's first plan, of trying to goad it out of Ichigo in a rage, didn't quite work.

Though a highly fun plan (Isshin always liked surprise attacking people), it just pushed Ichigo into a deeper funk.

No... this called for drastic measures. Maybe on the order of getting Urahara involved...

'No! He's my son! It's my job to teach him to be strong!'

So, at the tender age of 10, Isshin decided that Ichigo was ready for the next step...

'I wonder... How old are boys supposed to be before they start picking up girls these days?'









If I did the 'Isshin training' idea... This is how it would start.
 

Mighty Bob

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#54
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Ike said:
"Oh, Masaki darling, I don't know if I can go on without you! Our poor children, having to live without their mother? I don't know if I can handle it!"

"Can it, dad! I miss Mom too, but you don't see me hugging that poster all the time!"

"Ichigo! Come to your father's bosom in a manly embrace!"

Sadly, this was a common scene in the Kurosaki household.

A year ago, Kurasaki Masaki died, leaving behind two baby girls and a young son.

Kurosaki Isshin noticed the changes his son had gone through, and while understanding them, didn't quite like them.

'Ichigo used to be so willing to embrace his father!'

But something had changed, recently.

Isshin's old friend Urahara had finally come through with some answers that Isshin asked.

Questions having to do with the circumstances of his wife's demise.

Questions that played into why his son's formerly massive reishi seemed to lock itself down.

"It was shock, Isshin-san. There was a... Hollow involved."

'Well... No son of mine is gonna hold in their reiatsu! No, I'm going to make him as manly as I can! And the most manly men I know have massive... reiatsu!'

Isshin's first plan, of trying to goad it out of Ichigo in a rage, didn't quite work.

Though a highly fun plan (Isshin always liked surprise attacking people), it just pushed Ichigo into a deeper funk.

No... this called for drastic measures. Maybe on the order of getting Urahara involved...

'No! He's my son! It's my job to teach him to be strong!'

So, at the tender age of 10, Isshin decided that Ichigo was ready for the next step...

'I wonder... How old are boys supposed to be before they start picking up girls these days?'









If I did the 'Isshin training' idea... This is how it would start.
Lemme know what manner of bribery gets yer muse fired up, cause we need to see this fleshed out, ASAP :hail:
 

Vexarian

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#55
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The only problem with Ichigo getting early training, is the possible absence of Hollow Ichigo. It's possible that we could combine a few of these ideas and form a sort of plot.

1)Isshin trains Ichigo

2)Young Nell and Ichigo meet when Ichigo is around 6 or 7.

It is possible that Isshin could talk Nell into his house ala Rukia and still train Ichigo in the ways of the shinigami. Ichigo could either gain his hollow powers the same way via canon, or the exposure to Nell' s hollow reiatsu could awaken Ichigo's inner hollow.
 

Prince Charon

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#56
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I think the 'Isshin trains Ichigo' idea deserves its own thread.

Also, I'm going to describe an image that appeared in my mind, unrelated to the above idea (I have to describe it, because I can't draw as well as Rukia can):

Urahara stands surrounded by shadowy figures, hat gone, one arm ending in a burnt and bloody stump, and saying "This is it, Benihime. One last battle, before the end. BAN KAI!!"
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#57
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Come to think of it, what could Urahara's Bankai be? From what I can tell from the line he says about it being inable to make people stronger makes me think it's Vampiric in nature, which I guess has to do with the blood mist sheild thingy.

Though I would love to see a scene like that, especially if it's when Kisuke actually takes some responsibility for his actions, though I will admit he was unable to help in the Soul Society arc for pretty good reasons.
 

zeebee1

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#58
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If Isshin trained Ichigo then Ichigo wouldn't need his hollow. He could probably take down Zaraki with one hit. His potential for growth his huge. And it should be noted what little Isshin has revealed about himself is his skill in sword fighting.
 

IronShanks

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#59
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Hate to throw this in a nother direction, but i felt like sharing my own idea. It's similar to Thorn's idea in 'Conquistador' but with a major difference. Instead of a personality change, its a physical change. Can yoy imagine cannon/Ichigo trying to storm SS in a hollow body? ^_^
 

immolo

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#60
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IronShanks said:
Hate to throw this in a nother direction, but i felt like sharing my own idea.? It's similar to Thorn's idea in 'Conquistador' but with a major difference.? Instead of a personality change, its a physical change.? Can yoy imagine cannon/Ichigo trying to storm SS in a hollow body? ^_^
Welcome to the forum.

BTW is your sig pic supposed to be the Wing Zero because if it is that is totally awesome.
 

IronShanks

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#61
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sorry got mixed up with my sig and my avatar but no acually, it's wing gundam not wing zero. sorry to nitpick
 

zeebee1

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#62
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So you're not only suggesting a lack of personality change, but you're also suggesting a power change. So he wouldn't show up as a hybrid, nor would he show up as a vizard. He'd be a lizard shaped non-menos hollow that could eat most gillians for breakfast.
 

IronShanks

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#63
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No, well maybe. I mean I'd like to see how the story might progress if ichigo was put into a slightly different position. Sure, he might be able to eat a menos, but would his character allow it, even if the extra boost was to help a friend.

On the flip side how will his friends react? Would he still get trained by sandlehat and ms.kitty? And who's to say they don't over react at his new look and attack and, due to his new body's instincts, sends himself to hucede mundo(sp?).

Or you could follow cannon and have him try to save rukia, but how much harder would that be because he looks like a hollow? I mean sure, a human attaking SS is bad but being invaded by 3 humans, a cat, and a 6 foot something hollow with reitsu(sp? again) coming out the wazoo? Now that's a boneafied crisis.

Then there is also the question of how to get into SS if the Shibas' are shitting themselves everytime they see you? Do you find a different way or just break the damn thing open?

About the hollow powers, I'll go on and say I never really thought about it but, in cannon it got stronger as ichigo himself got stronger right? So does it not also stand to reason that his powers won't allow him to start eating menos the day after his transformation? He'd still have to train, and then there's hollow!ichigo egging him on (What, you thought I got rid of him?). Sure, he'd be stronger but his fights would be more difficult. Not because he's weak but because the shinigami have a different type of enemy infront of them.

Then there is the crack potential. Say he does end up in hucede mundo some how. Do you think he'd just sit around as a shinigami lunatic tries to take over the world? I wouldn't think so.

Or if that's not your cup of tea how about ichigo learns about the whole 'if you get eaten by a hollow you turn into one' thing? You could have him go up to any hollow that remotely resembles a female and have him ask, "Are you my mommy?" That ought to jar a few people. :snigger:

And then there's Nell.

And I'm sorry in advance if this is hard to read or anything but i was never good a grammar and i could tell you how to form a paragraph if my life depended on it. I will also apologies if any of my reasons don't make sence.

Never mind, it fixed it's self.
 

parker

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#64
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What if one of the first things that is taught in the Shinigami academy is how to become a Vizard?
 

zeebee1

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#65
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Then there wouldn't be any shinigami.
 

Thorn

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#66
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parker said:
What if one of the first things that is taught in the Shinigami academy is how to become a Vizard?
Hmmm. Do you think Zaraki would embrace that? I doubt it. He'd probably count it as much as a crutch as he did Zanpakuto.
 

Vexarian

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#67
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What if Grand Fisher ended up eating Ichigo and not Masaki.

Would Isshin train Karin and Yuzu?

How would Masaki react to Isshin's secret?

Would Ichigo ever be able to overpower Grand Fisher?
 

knight_of_ni

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#68
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Iron, the idea of Ichigo going hollow and ending up in Hueco mundo is sweet.

Right then, lets say Ichigo's chain got broken because of the hollow that attacked his home, Rukia might be running a bit late and his desperation to get power enough to defend his family bites him the ass as it speeds up the destruction of the chain and the creation of the hole.

Ichigo, since there are hollows that seem able to be "not evil," manages to force back the hunger and because of the fact that he has power out the wazoo starts eating the other hollow and starts going around doing the same for other hollows, thus turning into a gillian.

Rukia and Ishida get in the little contest/pissing match that happens canon, except it draws Ichigo who by this time is probably already a gillian and approaching becoming a adjuchas. Actually, he probably already would be an adjuchas considering Ichigo's rate of growth with shinigami powers.

Of course things start progressing Aizen has to use another method to get the orb, Ichigo might already have met Aizens merry band of arrancar and was being offered a place amongst them.

I highly doubt that Ichigo would stay with the other arrancar though, nor would he agree to the use of the Kurakawa to create the royal key....

...I am done now.
 

Vexarian

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Yeah that's is something I've always thought about. People always assume that Shirosaki's power is set, but if in reality Shirosaki is a part of Ichigo, and while Ichigo grows insanely as a Shinigami Shirosaki is also probably growing at an insane rate as a hollow.
 

Prince Charon

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#70
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In order to achieve Bankai, a shinigami must 'materialize their zanpakut's spirit in the real world and subjugate it'. The means by which they do this varies. So, I wonder if Urahara subjugated Benihime sexually. He does seem to have a very close relationship with her, after all. Does anyone want to write a lemon on this theme (either with Urahara, or with another shinigami)?
 

Vexarian

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#71
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Prince Charon said:
In order to achieve Bankai, a shinigami must 'materialize their zanpakut?'s spirit in the real world and subjugate it'. The means by which they do this varies. So, I wonder if Urahara subjugated Benihime sexually. He does seem to have a very close relationship with her, after all. Does anyone want to write a lemon on this theme (either with Urahara, or with another shinigami)?
Adultfanfiction.net has some Urahara/Benihime action
 

IronShanks

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#72
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Not a story idea but what the hell. Chalk it up to watching an episode of g gundam after 3 years (or maybe it was naruto) but I had a mental picture of ichigo struggling in a fight with an espada while using his hollow powers. Caught in a corner he pumps all/most of his hollow powers into his mask, rips it off, and shoves it into the face of his opponent affectivly throwing them off balance and getting them off his ass. Of course, no one really thinks to much of it, maybe just a cheap trick to impede their eyesight, until it explodes taking their head and the upper portion of their torso.
 

Cosgrove

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#73
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Eh, something that's been brewing in my head is an idea where during the days before going to soul society Ichigo bumps into Shinji or one of the other Vizards, who very faintly notice the presence of Hollow Ichigo, and thus attempt to recruit him in the few days before he goes to Soul Society.

That or Urahara, knowing that the Shattered Shaft test made Ichigo into a Vizard after seeing the mask, put Ichigo into such a beatdown that Hollow Ichigo was forced to emerge to save their lives, and eventually forces Ichigo into the Vizard transformation.

Both ending up leading to an Ichigo who's an inexperienced Vizard which would lead to changes through the Soul Sociey and Arrancar/Hueco Mundo arcs. Perhaps when Bankai training happens, Hollow Ichigo shows up instead of old man Zangetsu?

The first idea might lead into a more involved Vizard group. Such as perhaps a membr or two of the Vizards go with Ichigo into Soul Society to make sure that Ichigo(a fellow Vizard) doesn't die. Or perhaps they show up towards the end of the Soul Society arc and end up saving Ichigo's ass from almost being killed by Aizen.

The second idea leads Ichigo to be less trusting of Urahara and by association Yoruichi. Not to mention Urahara would probably make sure Ichigo know at least somewhat how to access his Hollow powers, though warning him not to use them. And perhaps leading Ichigo to grow sickened of most Shinigami and ally himself with the Vizards, if he does end up using them anyway. Vizards are considered criminals, so Ichigo would probably be on Soul Society's hit list if he does use them.

Slight edit: Could Urahara himself be a Vizard? he used the three day Bankai device on himself, so it wouldn't be too odd that he used the Hogyoku on himself either. And Urahara can't enter soul society at all, right?
 

immolo

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#74
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Cosgrove said:
Eh, something that's been brewing in my head is an idea where during the days before going to soul society Ichigo bumps into Shinji or one of the other Vizards, who very faintly notice the presence of Hollow Ichigo, and thus attempt to recruit him in the few days before he goes to Soul Society.

That or Urahara, knowing that the Shattered Shaft test made Ichigo into a Vizard after seeing the mask, put Ichigo into such a beatdown that Hollow Ichigo was forced to emerge to save their lives, and eventually forces Ichigo into the Vizard transformation.

Both ending up leading to an Ichigo who's an inexperienced Vizard which would lead to changes through the Soul Sociey and Arrancar/Hueco Mundo arcs. Perhaps when Bankai training happens, Hollow Ichigo shows up instead of old man Zangetsu?

The first idea might lead into a more involved Vizard group. Such as perhaps a membr or two of the Vizards go with Ichigo into Soul Society to make sure that Ichigo(a fellow Vizard) doesn't die. Or perhaps they show up towards the end of the Soul Society arc and end up saving Ichigo's ass from almost being killed by Aizen.

The second idea leads Ichigo to be less trusting of Urahara and by association Yoruichi. Not to mention Urahara would probably make sure Ichigo know at least somewhat how to access his Hollow powers, though warning him not to use them. And perhaps leading Ichigo to grow sickened of most Shinigami and ally himself with the Vizards, if he does end up using them anyway. Vizards are considered criminals, so Ichigo would probably be on Soul Society's hit list if he does use them.

Slight edit: Could Urahara himself be a Vizard? he used the three day Bankai device on himself, so it wouldn't be too odd that he used the Hogyoku on himself either. And Urahara can't enter soul society at all, right?
Hollow Ichigo didn't exist at all before the Shattered shaft so number one isn't possible.
 

Cosgrove

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#75
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Except you forget there was a few days inbetween the shattered shaft/ Urahara teaching Ichigo and when Ichigo went to Soul Society. Volume 8, ch 68. p132 "August 1st. After completing my lessons At Urahara Shoten. While the guys prepare to open the gate to the Soul Society, I decided to enjoy a normal summer vaction."
 
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