Bleach Blessings In Disguise - Bleach/AMG AU Fic

Waruiko

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#51
nick012000 said:
The Inner Hollow seems to get along well enough with Zangetsu. They'd all just be incarnations of the same thing, after all: Ichigo's power. It'd just be that they're different aspects of his power.

At most they'd squabble a bit, and eventually the Inner Hollow absorbs the other two as his power increases, like he did to Zangetsu in canon. Not that that'd stop Ichigo from calling on the Angel, but it'd also make it very risky to do so (like how using Bankai resulted in him going hollow until he beat down the Inner Hollow and got the mask).
I can see no reason at all for Ichigo's hallow to be able to just absorb a true blue angel of the A!MG type. It makes sense that Ichigo's zanpakuto and hallow switch back and forth because they were awakened/created by a singular event while both being born from the same 'base substance' and as such function as a single entity. Whats more having an angel isn't inherent to being a divinity in A!MG the same way having a Zanpakuto is to being a shinigami or having a mask is to being a hallow. That heavely implies a distinct degree of separation that just isn't there with Ichigo's hallow. There is also the fact that Ichigo wasn't able to just order his hallow away while Urd was able to banish her angel as a kid by giving it an order to go away and it couldn't come back until Urd came to terms with the decision.
 

nick012000

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#52
Waruiko said:
There is also the fact that Ichigo wasn't able to just order his hallow away while Urd was able to banish her angel as a kid by giving it an order to go away and it couldn't come back until Urd came to terms with the decision.
I think that the reason for that is that he honestly doesn't want it gone. He just doesn't want it taking over his body. Notice how he's perfectly happy to use its power after he deals with it in his mindscape.

Also notice how Yumichika treats his Zanpakuto, and how it reacts to that. I think that if a Shinigami is entirely capable of throwing away their zanpakuto and if they did so, they'd lose its powers. Of course, if they called on it later, it'd probably materialize in their hand, but that'd be just like what you said Urd did.

If Ichigo were to fully master his Inner Hollow, and then throw away his mask, it'd probably be gone, unless he were to call upon its powers once more.
 

GenocideHeart

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#53
Skuld's angel was a strange case, though. I wonder if they are all born from eggs bonded to Goddesses from early on?
 

Waruiko

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#54
nick012000 said:
Waruiko said:
There is also the fact that Ichigo wasn't able to just order his hallow away while Urd was able to banish her angel as a kid by giving it an order to go away and it couldn't come back until Urd came to terms with the decision.
I think that the reason for that is that he honestly doesn't want it gone. He just doesn't want it taking over his body. Notice how he's perfectly happy to use its power after he deals with it in his mindscape.

Also notice how Yumichika treats his Zanpakuto, and how it reacts to that. I think that if a Shinigami is entirely capable of throwing away their zanpakuto and if they did so, they'd lose its powers. Of course, if they called on it later, it'd probably materialize in their hand, but that'd be just like what you said Urd did.

If Ichigo were to fully master his Inner Hollow, and then throw away his mask, it'd probably be gone, unless he were to call upon its powers once more.
Ichigo isn't happy for power even at the points when he needs it. He is willing to use that power, but only after stopping his hallow form eating him and killing everything he loves. Don't trivialize just what Ichigo's Hallow is or what it would do. It's an inhuman monster that never shows any signs of feeling anything other then a drive to survive, a desire to wrest control from Ichigo, and endless blood-lust. Until Ichigo conquers the hallow he has to actively fight against his own power and he is weakened greatly for it.
 

soul ice

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#55
for all the talk about angels i am more intrested in how the AMG ability to divide themself into more than one form to acomplish tasks will affect him.
 

holyknight

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#56
soul ice said:
for all the talk about angels i am more intrested in how the AMG ability to divide themself into more than one form to acomplish tasks will affect him.
......depends of how many times his Chibi-form would be snagged as a plushy for the occasional Bleach female what goes into OFMGCUTE! frenzy to the sight of it.
 

Wheeljack

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#57
holyknight said:
soul ice said:
for all the talk about angels i am more intrested in how the AMG ability to divide themself into more than one form to acomplish tasks will affect him.
......depends of how many times his Chibi-form would be snagged as a plushy for the occasional Bleach female what goes into OFMGCUTE! frenzy to the sight of it.
I dunno if it's a good or a bad thing that that's giving me ideas.... :p
 

zerohour

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#58
Wheeljack said:
Zerohour, from the last thread did the scene with Ichigo walking in on Orihime and the aftermath meet with your liking?

What about the bits with Ichigo and tape later on?
It was much, much better than I expected.

After re-reading everything, I'm starting to think Tatsuki has some minor self-esteem issues in regards to herself as a female. She's a tomboy, and she knows it, but at leats a part of her wants to be a least a *little* girly.

It's humorous to see how everyone but Ichigo seems to be aware of of Tatsuki's and Orihime's crushes on him. I think Tatsuki thinks that hers is still a secret, which makes it more amusing.

I'm hoping the next chapter will dedicate some more attention to Tatsuki, she could really use some support on the romantic side of life. I'd like to see someone take her aside and give her some advice on it.

You know, Urd might be a good choice for that... and being on friendly terms with Tatsuki could go long way toward patching up her relationship with Karin.
 

Ura Mamoru

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#59
holyknight said:
soul ice said:
for all the talk about angels i am more intrested in how the AMG ability to divide themself into more than one form to acomplish tasks will affect him.
......depends of how many times his Chibi-form would be snagged as a plushy for the occasional Bleach female what goes into OFMGCUTE! frenzy to the sight of it.
I just had the image of someone pulling the "I'm gonna take him home with me!" card and... well, do this to him (0:28).

The problem is, I can't think of anyone in Karakura who would do that... er, who would do that to Chibi!Ichigo, rather. I know Chizuru's the type, but she's rather take Orihime home with her.
 

holyknight

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#60
Ura Mamoru said:
holyknight said:
soul ice said:
for all the talk about angels i am more intrested in how the AMG ability to divide themself into more than one form to acomplish tasks will affect him.
......depends of how many times his Chibi-form would be snagged as a plushy for the occasional Bleach female what goes into OFMGCUTE! frenzy to the sight of it.
I just had the image of someone pulling the "I'm gonna take him home with me!" card and... well, do this to him (0:28).

The problem is, I can't think of anyone in Karakura who would do that... er, who would do that to Chibi!Ichigo, rather. I know Chizuru's the type, but she's rather take Orihime home with her.
One perfectly can imagine that even Tatsuki has a hidden girly vein on her to the hour of Chibi-Ichigo. If we talk of Orihime....can you say "KO by Breast Suffocation"? :rofl:

On the other side once the ladies of Seireitei enter into this....brrr......although i can see Rukia trying to make Chibi-Ichigo wear a Chappy costume....hmmm.... :sweat: :jawdrop:
 

zerohour

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#61
holyknight said:
One perfectly can imagine that even Tatsuki has a hidden girly vein on her to the hour of Chibi-Ichigo.
Now I see Tatsuki doing a practice love confession to Chibi Ichigo before she finds out about his powers.

That will be awkward. Hilarious, but awkward.
 

WOLead

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#62
holyknight said:
One perfectly can imagine that even Tatsuki has a hidden girly vein on her to the hour of Chibi-Ichigo. If we talk of Orihime....can you say "KO by Breast Suffocation"? :rofl:

On the other side once the ladies of Seireitei enter into this....brrr......although i can see Rukia trying to make Chibi-Ichigo wear a Chappy costume....hmmm.... :sweat:? :jawdrop:

Yeah, I can see Chibi-Ichigo getting picked up and repeatedly run off with by various members of the cast. Such as the "KO by Breast Suffocation" by Orohime, Tatsuki constantly picking him up and carrying him around like a stuffed toy, getting chased by Ry? Kunieda and Chad trying to catch him(like Plushy Kon), being anywhere near Yuzu, grooming by Yoruichi in her cat form and sheer teasing when she is bipedal(or where she carries him), and more. Heh, he would develop a sheer amount of horror at miniature Chappy and black cat costumes when around Rukia or Soifon as Ishada keeps giving them new ones.

It would be a funny running gag that Chibi-Ichigo constantly needs to be rescued, since he keeps going off to rescue various females otherwise. Such as Chizuru using him as a trap to lure Orohime to her apartment, or when Yachiru ties him up to show off at the next Women's Shinigami Association as the next big thing to sell for money(both him and plushy versions of him).

Now if only he could tell Unohana "No" when she asks for him to go Chibi and starts carrying him around like a very small child/baby every time she sees him.

As to why he simply just doesn't turn back to get out of certain problems? Poor Ichigo has to sit down and meditate for a while to actually go big again.
 

shakeval

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#63
hmmm bit of a necro i believe but my little thought slash question, i don't know a lot about the OMG series but are angel something they get handed or are they a part that grows from the deity cause what would happen with hollow ichigo? what would be the chances of him becoming ichigo's angel, that could be rather funny.

another little question would be if ichigo will are some point have limiters placed on him to prevent accidental manifestations of his emotional state as he begins to grow into his power, and how if at all this would effect his spiritual energy and or hollow form, seeing as a hollow is a bit like a spiritual file corruption/ rewrite.

hell, would hollow ichigo even be possible with ichigo's now apparent demi god status? and what would yggdrasil's constant monitoring and regulation of the gods and goddesses register if ichigo started going hollow, would he at any point get stuck like halfway or something.... ichigo, god of hoceo mundo
 

soul ice

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#64
From what I remember though it has been a while Angels usually begin as eggs though they can only manifest when the power of their god, goddess matures. Also self doubts or blocks can prevent or twist the manifestation. ItÆs probably best to consider them the reflection of the wielders heart.

This is why I canÆt see Hollow Ichigo and his angel getting along at all. The Angel would basically be the representation of everything that Hollow Ichigo lacks. I imagine that the two would immediately go to war against each other. On the other hand I can see IchigoÆs manifestations of power changing due to this. Perhaps when he fights with conviction like he did against Kenpachi his angel manifests in his reiatsu rather than the hollow mask but when he is cornered and desperate like against Byakuya his hollow forms.

I imagine that they would basically be equal for the most part with boosts hear and there from IchigoÆs state of mind at the time until the hollow subdues Zangetsu. At that point things become much more complicated.
Demigods tend to have epic destinyÆs set out for them but Ichigo was already slated for an epic destiny so becoming a demigod has probably upped the bar significantly.
 

DhampyrX2

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#65
I still wonder if Isshin has told Belldandy that he's a former Captain of the Gotei 13? I mean let's face it, if Bell was coming out to the whole family you wouldn't get a better spot for him to do the same. Especially with the possibility of the kids looking for more supernatural things and running across the wrong hollows.

Although part of me wants to see Mara show up and try to push Isshin around only for Isshin to push back. After all Mara's limited while Isshin, as far as we know, is not due to the fact he's not even part of Soul Society any more.

Badass Isshin is always fun.
 

GenocideHeart

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#66
DhampyrX2 said:
I still wonder if Isshin has told Belldandy that he's a former Captain of the Gotei 13? I mean let's face it, if Bell was coming out to the whole family you wouldn't get a better spot for him to do the same. Especially with the possibility of the kids looking for more supernatural things and running across the wrong hollows.

Although part of me wants to see Mara show up and try to push Isshin around only for Isshin to push back. After all Mara's limited while Isshin, as far as we know, is not due to the fact he's not even part of Soul Society any more.

Badass Isshin is always fun.
Marller is only slightly less powerful than Urd, even in limited form.

How well do you think it'd end for Isshin if he fought Urd, even limited?

...exactly. Now let's bury any such thoughts and never bring them out again. Unless you hate Isshin and want to see him stomped really badly - remember that Marller doesn't care about collateral damage. Unless Isshin forgets about his Hippocratic oath, he's kind of limited right there and then...
 

Wheeljack

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#67
DhampyrX2 said:
I still wonder if Isshin has told Belldandy that he's a former Captain of the Gotei 13?
Your answer's actually in this chapter, if you can find the line. B)

I mean let's face it, if Bell was coming out to the whole family you wouldn't get a better spot for him to do the same.? Especially with the possibility of the kids looking for more supernatural things and running across the wrong hollows.
At this particular moment, what they want is to let their children have a normal childhood as long as they can. Considering that Isshin doesn't have his powers, it's not like he can prove it. Besides, the kids may think he's saying it to screw with them.

Although part of me wants to see Mara show up and try to push Isshin around only for Isshin to push back.? After all Mara's limited while Isshin, as far as we know, is not due to the fact he's not even part of Soul Society any more.

Badass Isshin is always fun.
As is super-happy-funtime Isshin, which is really the only way he'll come out on top, provided the context isn't life or death - in a serious way that is. Otherwise it pretty much goes the way Genocideheart mentions.

I will admit there are certain loopholes, however those are rather... how do I say, dependant(and very temporary), on who/what is around. More importantly, it's very likely not what you or others maybe thinking.
 

zerohour

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#68
Well, I think he might, MIGHT, have a chance if he goes all out immeidately, essentially sucker punching her with an all out assault before she has a chance to defend herself.

Still, it's a pretty slim chance that he'll pull it off, and it would be a one time deal, followed by an extensive beat down.

As for Isshin revealing his past, I doubt it. He probably has a decent past set up, and I doubt anyone from his past will be showing up to disrupt it, so there's no need to change it.
 

DhampyrX2

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#69
zerohour said:
Well, I think he might, MIGHT, have a chance if he goes all out immeidately, essentially sucker punching her with an all out assault before she has a chance to defend herself.

Still, it's a pretty slim chance that he'll pull it off, and it would be a one time deal, followed by an extensive beat down.

As for Isshin revealing his past, I doubt it. He probably has a decent past set up, and I doubt anyone from his past will be showing up to disrupt it, so there's no need to change it.
Kiuske, Yoruichi, Shinji, Hiyori, et. all

There are plenty of people around from Isshin's life as a shinigami in canon to mess with things. Never mind the additions that could be added with an AU.


I'll grant you there is no Shinigami on par with Mara in pure power. But it's a matter of how much you are willing to play with her level of restriction here to define how bad a confrontation between the two would be. After all this is still the guy that took out an arrancar with an unsealed zapakuto and no use of shikai. You can talk about how Grand Fisher was a prototype and all that but Isshin still did it with an unsealed zanpakuto. Give Isshin his due there, particularly if Mara thinks he's just a regular human.

And in all fairness, unless a direct order can from Hild, Mara would NOT be stupid enough to piss off Belldandy by trying to kill Isshin. Mess with him and scare him? Yes. Do permenent damage and risk Belldandy's wrath? Not so much.
 

nick012000

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#70
DhampyrX2 said:
I'll grant you there is no Shinigami on par with Mara in pure power.
There might well be shinigami who can level the playing field with hax, though. I doubt Mara could defeat Aizen short of blowing up everything around herself, and Barrigan is just flat-out undefeatable by raw power. Urahara and Kurotsochi could probably defeat her with Magic Science.
 

Draveziovas

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#71
nick012000 said:
DhampyrX2 said:
I'll grant you there is no Shinigami on par with Mara in pure power.
There might well be shinigami who can level the playing field with hax, though. I doubt Mara could defeat Aizen short of blowing up everything around herself, and Barrigan is just flat-out undefeatable by raw power. Urahara and Kurotsochi could probably defeat her with Magic Science.
...Only Aizen MIGHT be able to give an AMG! Deity a hard time, and that is only if they've been limited for some reason.

AMG! Deites can locally rewrite the universe if they want to, and given the fact that they pull this off by having access to the fundamental Operating Systems of the Universe, "Magic Science"(And isn't that a massive oxymoron) is going to do all of jack shit.

Barrigan's a one tric pony, and the deities live long enough and have enough power of their own, that He uis be severly outclassed.
 

GenocideHeart

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#72
Draveziovas said:
nick012000 said:
DhampyrX2 said:
I'll grant you there is no Shinigami on par with Mara in pure power.
There might well be shinigami who can level the playing field with hax, though. I doubt Mara could defeat Aizen short of blowing up everything around herself, and Barrigan is just flat-out undefeatable by raw power. Urahara and Kurotsochi could probably defeat her with Magic Science.
...Only Aizen MIGHT be able to give an AMG! Deity a hard time, and that is only if they've been limited for some reason.

AMG! Deites can locally rewrite the universe if they want to, and given the fact that they pull this off by having access to the fundamental Operating Systems of the Universe, "Magic Science"(And isn't that a massive oxymoron) is going to do all of jack shit.

Barrigan's a one tric pony, and the deities live long enough and have enough power of their own, that He uis be severly outclassed.
Barragan's only actual power is to age things, anyway. The problem is that aging DEMONS and GODS might not work as well as he expects, given their lifespan could potentially be measured in a few billion years at a bare minimum, and in terms of 'until the end of the Universe' at worst.

He probably would just get stomped before his powers even have any visible effects on either the Goddesses or the Demons. After all, how do you age to death beings who will likely only die when the universe does? That'd require a ton of asspulling even from him...

Mind you, I like to think Barragan wouldn't be stupid enough to even try. He's relatively smarter than most other Espada.
 

lask

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#73
Things that do or create tend to lass not nearly that long though.
 

zeebee1

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#74
If someone claims to better than Barragan, or claims to be a higher level being, all bets about him making an intelligent decion, is off.
 

The Eromancer

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#75
Hmm all this talk of Ichigo's "inner Hallow" and a possible angel did it ever occure to anyone that should the two go at it if the angel WINS Ichigo's "inner Hallow" get absorbed by the angel instead?
 
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