Bleach Born of Hogyoku

Knyght

The Collector
#1
Shiba Isshin was previous captain of the 10th Division with Shiba Kuukaku as his lieutenant. There was a confrontation with a Vasto Lorde twenty years before canon which resulted in the loss of KuukakuÆs arm and Isshin using up most of his power to defeat it, causing him to be stuck in the human world as he recovers, likely due to Garganta shenanigans. Regardless of the backstory, he ends up in the human world in a need of a gigai for power recovery.

Urahara finds him and offers him the user of a gigai which contained his Hogyoku. The gigai is designed to turn him into a human and lose his powers permanently to hide the Hogyoku forever. Thankfully, during his time in Karakura Isshin meets and falls in love with Kurosaki Masaki and wants to be a human. At that point Urahara reveals what he was planning and Isshin gives his consent and builds a life with Masaki.

But Urahara realises thereÆs a problem when Isshin ends up in a confrontation with an imperfect arrancar. He not only sees the arrancar but was able to kill it, something that should be impossible for a regular human. And after the battle, he really does appear to be a regular human. Checking on the Hogyoku, Urahara discovered that the barrier it was contained had eroded and it was bonding with IsshinÆs soul.

At this point, he either remakes the barriers whilst keeping it in IsshinÆs soul or he removes it in the hope that he can find another shinigami to use it on for the right result.

An important point to consider is the effect that this could have on IsshinÆs children, Ichigo in particular. Either the Hogyoku itself or IsshinÆs altered soul could changed the nature of his children; the Hogyoku is designed to dissolve the barrier between shinigami and hollows, so it could be that these children are born without that barrier in the first place. At the very least, Ichigo is affected since heÆs the protagonist.

Canonically, Ichigo is probably the closest to a perfect hybrid but this time he would be a natural born fusion of the races. Depending on the writer, this could easily be used to create a divergence during his childhood. Alternatively it wouldnÆt become significant until canon.

IchigoÆs power might follow the same route as the vizard or he could be a quasi-arrancar. Maybe he wonÆt even have an inner hollow since his powers all one thing this tiem. It could be a literal fusion where Ichigo can naturally use all the powers of shinigami and hollows/arrancar i.e. shikai, bankai, cero, resurreccÝon etc. ItÆs up to the writer though IÆm interested in the numerous possibilities.

Getting back to the plot, in the first scenario, everything that happens with Rukia is actually meant to be a set-up to trick Aizen into believing he had hidden the Hogyoku inside her. This undoubtedly screws up his plans when Aizen reveals himself when he discovers a) thereÆs nothing inside Rukia or B) a fake Hogyoku that might be a trap.

Aizen taking a fake Hogyoku to Hueco Mundo or being killed there and then could have a big impact on the upcoming events. In the latter case, Gin and Tousen are in the process of betrayal and thereÆs still a group of arrancar in Hueco Mundo. Though Stark wouldnÆt be one of the Espada and IÆm unsure which arrancars came about from the æperfectÆ Hogyoku.

In the second scenario, then Rukia really is the container and canon business goes down (or however the person writing the story sets it up). In this case, the most important factor of the idea is what the hell Ichigo is and how it might effect various plans.
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#2
As the databook covers, any arrancar given a number past 10 prior to becoming an espada would be hollows directly altered via the orb, with the exception of the Privaron, who it's exceedingly likely were never touched by it. Starrk obviously was just that absurdly powerful from the getgo, the rest however you'd have to check if they were given numbers before getting an espada rank, which I think was covered in the databook.

Off the top of my head, I know for a fact Grimmjaw was originally 12, thus the second one created via the orb. He'd be significantly weaker as a result. Wonderwiess we saw directly what happened so he's out too. Nel and Nnoitra and indeed Syzael were around ages ago, but I'm unsure if those were affected by the orb after the fact, particularly since Nnoitra's spear thing noticeably changed.

I believe at some point in the databook where we see Pat's stupid looking Vastrolorde form with the asswings it shows his mask cracking, implying he's a natural arrancar too. But since his mask noticeably changed since his appearance, it's entirely possible the orb affected him too. Stark I can say for damn sure is visibly the same between the two points at least, so of the ones we know he's the only one who has had no visible indicator that he was touched by it.
 

Knyght

The Collector
#3
Just checked and it looks Ulquiorra's mask broke after he walked into a spiky tree.

Scenario 1: Nothing inside Rukia.

Aizen gets shown up as his Hogyoku-stealing method comes up with nothing. He realises he's been had and depending on how pressured he's feeling, he could quickly realising that it was hidden within a member of the Kurosaki family i.e. Isshin. Of course, Byakuya's on his way followed by the rest of the Gotei 13. Aizen makes his getaway thanks to Negacion but there's probably a lot les arrogance in his exit.

After this there's going to be a lot of focus placed on Ichigo's family since Aizen's going to want that Hogyoku quite badly.

Scenario 2: Trap inside Rukia.

Let's assume Aizen, and onyl Aizen, gets killed. Gin's goal is complete and he no longer has any reason to betray SS but the way the events have been set up put him in a bad light. Tousen's probably gonna run off to Hueco Mundo anyway using Negacion but he doesn't have a chance in controlling the arrancar there and has no way to empower himself (unless he's was experimented on with Aizen's Hogyoku).

You've got the arrancars in Hueco Mundo who've lost their main driving factor. Barragan's likely gonna retake control of the place with the others either choosing to follow him, leaving because they don't give a damn or trying to overtake them. It could be a war with SS is in the horizon anyway before Barragan's now got a powerful fighting force under his command and nothing better to do.

Though the army's overall strength would be a weaker than canon which definitely weakens the conflict. This could be the opportunity to bring in some originality with a new group showing up or the whole arrancar might be pushed back a few (or many) years into the future.
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#4
That depends on what you do with Gin really. Granted in canon his goal was killing Aizen, but like most things in deicide, that and his motivations were pure bullshit. So much so that you could literally replace anything there and it'd likely make more sense.

Granted though neither he nor Tousen are much of a Big Bad by themselves so it's hard to see them take the reigns with Aizen gone even if you do alter his motivations accordingly.

Though all this talk of Urahara putting in a trap is giving me an idea for another potential plot manipulation that could make things significantly more interesting. Will likely get to posting that later...
 

shinzero01

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#5
~NGD OMEGA~ said:
That depends on what you do with Gin really. Granted in canon his goal was killing Aizen, but like most things in deicide, that and his motivations were pure bullshit. So much so that you could literally replace anything there and it'd likely make more sense.

Granted though neither he nor Tousen are much of a Big Bad by themselves so it's hard to see them take the reigns with Aizen gone even if you do alter his motivations accordingly.

Though all this talk of Urahara putting in a trap is giving me an idea for another potential plot manipulation that could make things significantly more interesting. Will likely get to posting that later...
I dunno... the Gin part of Deicide was the one thing I really liked.
I mean, Aizen didn't see it coming. At all. It was a nice turnaround to see the guy who deceived everyone for centuries get destroyed by someone who deceived him.

Then the orb hit the undo button and things went downhill from there.

Edit: Gin would likely just move on if Aizen died. Next thing you know, Urahara would have another assistant.
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#6
I agree that, had his betrayal done literally anything at all that would have been a really damn sweet moment and the LOLNO just continued to drive in everyone's rage and frustration at the stupidity, however I'm not fond of the way it was done regardless because the way Kubo wrote the motivation behind it was completely pulled out of his ass.

Aizen having an orb all along was literally the stupidest shit that could possibly have come out of that arc. Seriously. Above the LOLNOs, above all the LOLIPLANNED EVERYTHING, above the blatant stalling for time, above the utterly bullshit time dilation chamber tripe and the completely asinine FGT and transcendence bullshit, that alone was the crowning moment of stupidity in an arc made up of nothing BUT stupidity.

I mean it's not just the orb itself being pulled out of his ass either. Nor the fact that Urahara's is made completely unnecessary EVEN IN CONTEXT OF THE RETCON because there's no excuse for why he couldn't just make more and either get a more complete one or feed the others to it to get it along the right path regardless. However it's also that the orb also eats shiny shit that comes out of young shinigami.

I could go into entire chapters on why that shit made no goddamn sense at all. Christ the whole thing came out completely like Kubo desperately needed an excuse for Gin to want to backstab Aizen and pulled the stupidiest idea that came up.

"Oh Aizen Harmed Matsumoto indirectly in some utterly ambigious way and stole something that makes no goddamn sense at all from her that I'll never explain too... uh... FEED ANOTHER ORB AIZEN HAD ALL ALONG.

I LOVE MY LIFE."

:no:
 

seitora

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#7
No, continue, continue. I'm like Eric Cartman, except instead of licking tears I feed of fanboy rage :D
 

seitora

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#8
So, during my evening run, which generally goes between an hour and a half to two hours (and while I do some reading, my mind also strays on to some of the strangest thoughts, like cross-border tariffs on chocolate and the flow dynamics of Olympic swimming suits - really, don't ask), I came up with an idea of the Karakura Town people activating their powers earlier than canon. I bring it up here instead of the random ideas topic because having Isshin with the Hogyoku in him allows me to handwave the time it takes everyone to develop spiritual powers.

Full disclosure, I really haven't read the Fullbringer arc yet (stopped reading the manga about a dozen chapters in or so into that arc), so I wouldn't know how Fullbringer mechanics or the villains of that arc would fit in. But the biggest trigger would be Ichigo's earlier evolution into a pseudo-Shinigami - able to summon a Zanpakuto and use Kido and purify Hollows, but he does this all in his physical body. He doesn't need to go into a soul form (doesn't have a soul form, period, until he enters Seiretei) to do all this. It means if he gets beat up in a fight he'll have to recuperate but it also gets rid of a liability (his body at risk of being killed when he's in soul form) and presumably it gives him benefits as well.

The main thing I would reckon is that it could give him better spiritual control since it's his physical body that is giving off energy, not some spiritual self that he is inexperienced with understanding and feeling. It's enough to significantly develop the spiritual awareness of those around him, but not dense enough to attract Hollows.

Tatsuki would be the first of Ichigo's classmates to develop specialised powers after that since she was the closest one of them to him when he was younger (doing karate and all that).

Chad's powers I believe were always reckoned to be because of his grandfather (that whole theory about his medallion thingie), but being with Ichigo at that one Junior High school would bring his powers out faster.

About a year-ish and a bit before the start of the actual series, when Ichigo and co. are all at Karakura High, his ability to cause others to become spiritually attuned ramps up to eleven, and suddenly you have a whole bunch of people on hand who can see ghosts around the place. This would put a story at risk of making too many people spiritually aware though (since there's probably like ~30 odd people in Ichigo's class alone, assuming they're all the same people for each of his courses). I would divide it up into about say a third who become heavily spiritually aware, to the point of being able to manifest powers and sense spiritual pressure, while the remaining two thirds have minor awareness and minimum enough spiritual energy that they wouldn't attract a Hollow.

If you had around ~10ish people including Uryuu (who somewhere along the line gets the power to purify Hollows instead of extinguishing them), and Karin and Yuzu as well (though mostly inactive), perhaps with a classmate or two of theirs, become capable of fighting the occasional Hollow that pops up, that could work. There's plenty of named characters past the main 4, though only Tatsuki, Keigo, Mizuiro and Chizuru really get any development.

Behind the scenes, I see Urahara taking the Karakura Town fighters in and not-so-gently pushing them through training their powers and abilities but especially their spiritual control so not to attract the attention of Hollows, Soul Society or Aizen. He slowly turns them into a sort of Karakura Town defense force, possibly with the training help of a couple (not all) of the Visoreds, in particular Hachigen. Throw Ururu and Jinta in there as well I guess.

I really am not sure where I would go with this idea at all. I have three scenes in my head, but only the first one is really tenable. The first would be Rukia showing up to act as the Shinigami representative for Karakura, constantly missing out on Hollows, until she finally manages to find one before it gets killed only to be one-upped by Uryuu. The second (though highly unlikely to occur under this rejigged background) would be Soul Society taking back Rukia again, only for a dozen Karakura Town fighters to show up and invade, each at least at lieutenant level, many of them at Captain level, all with well over a full year of training. The third (also basically impossible) is Aizen invading Karakura Town only to encounter a dozen high-tier fighters who all know to not look at his Zanpakuto if he activates his Shikai.
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#9
The calling the sword in his physical body is actually something I wanted to see touched on for a while for two reasons. Firstly, it is canon that Shinigami can bring out their Zanpakuto when in Gigai at the very least. Hitsugaya's group while training in the early parts of the arrancar arc right before Luppi and crew showed up each showed the ability to do this.

Secondly Ichigo himself during this phase when his Hollow was taking over had a very interesting scene in his human body, where his eye slowly started to blacken and turn into the hollow eyes. Naturally this showcases that his Hollow could attempt to take over him when he was in his human body and the same physical effect shows. Sadly beyond these two very brief scenes this isn't really touched on otherwise.
 

seitora

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#10
Rukia doesn't leave her Gigai once I think after the first chapter until Renji and Byakuya show up. She certainly does some fighting and some healing while in the gigai, though obviously she wasn't ever able to summon her zanpakuto at the time but that was for plot.
 

Knyght

The Collector
#11
Similar to my own idea in some respects. Ichigo turning his class into a gang of superhumans sounds cool.

I remember an idea that could be used here where all the thugs Ichigo had beaten up got spiritual powers thanks to their 'contact' with him and formed a gang to get revenge on him. It could be that lots of the younger generation start developing some spiritual power and we end up with some deliquents having turf wars in town. Until Ichigo kicks everyone's ass and reigns supreme.

My own way of doing that human body aspect, because the manga's kinda inconsistent and it makes things more equal, is that awakening your spiritual powers causes the soul to act as support for the body and gain durability on par with a Shinigami.
 

seitora

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#12
Reading through Swing the Blade Down topic, yeah, some of Ichigo's classmates could basically inherit the Fullbringer's powers or whatever it is, but it would have to take place even earlier, before the start of canon.

If merely getting slugged by somebody with spiritual power made you more spiritually aware, though, Keigo should be a superhuman by now from all his comic relief shots :rolleyes:

I would prefer to base Ichigo off of Ishida, actually, in that Ishida has a formidable amount of control over his body's reiatsu (smaller in comparison as it may be given he controls a large amount of external spiritual energy), and doesn't really have any external changes like fancy clothing or special armor when he actively uses his power. Ichigo could summon up his zanpakuto out of temporal nothingness because it would be awkward carrying a weapon around at all times, but other than that he simply can go from normal human to ass-kicking superbeing in a split-second.

Also, for some reason, I see Urahara naming all the members of this Karakura Defense Force after tarot cards, which would peg the number of associated members of the KDF (not just active fighters, but supports like Urahara himself) at 22 in relation to the 22 Major Arcana. Urahara would be The Fool of course :rofl:
 

Flamewolf

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#13
i've only seen the anime so i don't know for sure, but his quincy clothes seem to be part of his power

regular


one winged angel
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#14
Nah, that part's just for his super form. The usual garb he wears is purely his own. Notably prior to that, he was wearing Shinigami clothes to disguise himself.
 

seitora

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#15
Ishida lost his one cloak in the Dangai when first going to Soul Society (and had a replacement), so that would suggest his clothes aren't part of his power.
 

Knyght

The Collector
#16
If merely getting slugged by somebody with spiritual power made you more spiritually aware, though, Keigo should be a superhuman by now from all his comic relief shots
That's true. :snigger:

Though you could make an argument about it being different because its a proper fight where Ichigo's reiatsu is more likely to spill out of control. :huh.:

Anyway, the subspace storage works since that seems to be how the other shinigami seem to do it. And it just makes life easier for all involved. I never really understand why they don't simply 'store' their zanpakuto inside their soul-bodies rather than carrying them around.

Major Arcana idea sounds cool though I don't understand the meanings well enough to start assigning them to characters.


One of Ishida's characteristic is designed his own uniforms and carry spare capes. Pretty he's been called out on it more than once.
 

Flamewolf

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#17
~NGD OMEGA~ said:
Nah, that part's just for his super form. The usual garb he wears is purely his own. Notably prior to that, he was wearing Shinigami clothes to disguise himself.
and after that fight i'm pretty sure he's wearing normal human clothes.

so maybe his clothes are made from spiritual threads, that he also made
 

seitora

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#18
knight504 said:
Major Arcana idea sounds cool though I don't understand the meanings well enough to start assigning them to characters.
I don't really know Major Arcana much myself aside from a couple of the cards (blame Ogre Battle, not Persona) but Urahara practically fits The Fool to a T, moreso than Ichigo does - it's alternatively known as "The Madman". Symbolically, it represents unlimited potential but also the possibility for disaster in not safeguarding against opportunity, which fits his role as the 12th Division Captain eventually ending in disaster. The 'background' to the Fool also represents a nomadic man wandering the world with all his possessions on his back in search of a new beginning, again which fits with Urahara's background.

It'd take a lot of work to assign Tarot meanings to 21 other characters, but like I said, it feels like something Urahara would do, and it'd add a bit of neat mystique to a KDF which could act as a counterbalance to both Aizen and Soul Society. The way I see it, assuming Aizen still plans to sacrifice Karakura Town, they won't be sitting down and letting the shinigami do all the work in guarding their hometown.
 

Knyght

The Collector
#19
@Flamewolf: Not sure what you mean, tbh. I just checked it out: he wore the special garb up until Tousen knocked him out, then he wore a prison uniform, then he got back into the shinigami uniform (during the execution time period) and after all that was over he was back in his Quincy uniform.

And, IIRC, all the regular clothes they were wearing got turn into spiritual clothing upon entering SS in the first.

@seitora: Oh yeah, the name alone fits suggest how well it would fit Urahara. Some of the others just sound odd though like "World" and "Tower". Could be interesting to look ip.
 

seitora

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#20
The Tower could represent Chad, I think. Tarot cards in general share a lot of overlap with others, so you could easily have multiple cards that could represent a single character.

After more thinking, and looking up summary of the Fullbringer Arc, there's supposedly two Fullbringers who die who have a sword and who has almighty strength. By sticking to named Karakura HS characters who have at least one appearance in the manga, Keigo's sister Mizuho, who is apparently a kendo practicioner (though that may be anime-only but what the hell she has more development than almost everyone else at the high school), and Tetsuo, the one-page character who tries to get Ichigo onto the karate team, could possibly inherit those Fullbringer powers. Possibly Ryo Kuneida, who makes a few manga appearances as well and is the #2 position in the school rankings could get a Fullbringer power, or just develop something for her along with the other new high school people like Tatsuki.

Restricting myself solely to 11 high school people, I get a list of about 20 people, deliberately not including any Vaizards.

Ichigo Kurosaki
Uryuu Ishida
Sado Yasutora
Orihime Inoue
Tatsuki Arasawa
Mizuiro Kojima
Keigo Asano
Ryo Kunieda
Mizuho Asano
Tetsuo Momohara
Chizuru Honsho
Karin Kurosaki
Yuzu Kurosaki
Isshin Kurosaki
Urahara Kisuke
Yoruichi Shihoin
Tessai Tsukabishi
Jinta Hanakari
Ururu Tsumugiya


I thought about including Ryuken in there as well, but threw that out. The remaining two slots could probably be filled up by defected Fullbringers.

The trigger to the entire story would, of course, be Isshin deciding to stop being a Shinigami. He meets Urahara, who sees the possibility to get rid of the Hogyoku, and who does tell Isshin about the rock and how he could finally seal it away in the process of making Isshin via the reiatsu-sucking gigai like what Rukia had. Whether the rock is still stuck in Rukia and somebody (Yoruichi?) has to go in and out of Seireitei to retrieve the rock or if Urahara still is holding onto it is up in the air.

The story continues on per normal until Grand Fisher attacks Masaki. She still gets eaten, but as a Hogyoku spawn, Ichigo awakens his latent powers pretty viciously after Grand Fisher leaves. In the process, he starts bleeding off spiritual energy that affects Tatsuki and his sisters. Isshin's powers stay dormant still for awhile.

One day, while in junior high, Ichigo manages to pull out a sealed zanpakuto, in a moment that just 'feels right' to him and does a konso on a spirit wandering around, with Tatsuki watching.

By this point, Urahara, who has been watching Ichigo for some time to monitor any anomalies possibly caused by his father having the Hogyoku in him, cannot stay behind the scenes any longer, and takes in Ichigo and Tatsuki, along with younger Ishida who got pulled in somewhere along the way, and explains the spiritual world to them at this point in time. At this point Ishida with help from Urahara starts to devise a new method for purifying Hollows with Quincy arrows.

Ichigo's ability to awaken spiritual powers in others forces Urahara to work double-time, as his sisters also both come into their own, and then Chad comes along as well. By this time Urahara, with help from Yoruichi and Tessai, begins to formally unite everybody into a Karakura Town Defense Force, bringing in Jinta and Ururu from wherever they come from. The younger people are inactive (Ichigo would kill anybody who endangers his sister) but they get moderate training as back-ups, while the teenagers, after encountering their first few hollows, take their duties seriously and start training.

When Ichigo and Chad and Tatsuki all enter high school, a number of their classmates get dosed with spiritual power, leading to a large expansion of spiritually-aware Karakura people. At this time, the Fullbringer arc occurs, leading in from knight's idea topic on that taking place before Soul Society arc (but in this case, occurring a year before the start of canon altogether). Some of Ichigo's classmates get their powers here from the dead Fullbringers, as mentioned.

Following the conclusion of the Fullbringer arc, and Ginjo's revelation of being a Substitute Shinigami, Urahara finally decides he cannot hide everything from the now-enlarged KDF. Dragging in Isshin, whose own powers have finally begun to reawaken, they explain about Soul Society and their former captaincies. At this point, I think Urahara still wouldn't mention Aizen (except maybe "If you ever see a guy with red hair and glasses, don't look at his Shikai if he reveals it), but would give a part-truth, claiming he became a forced exile because he rescued several friends who had inadvertently Hollowfied from becoming fully Hollowfied. This would give a tenuous link between the KDF and the Vaizards. I don't really care about anybody besides Hachigen, who has his own branch of Kido powers, and Kensei, who strikes me as the best sparrer of the Vaizards. Somewhere along the way Ichigo activates Shikai, and if you want to be really h4x (maybe Urahara pulls him aside and reveals Aizen's plotting to him to push him harder than everybody else) give him Bankai as well.

For some reason, I can imagine one of the Vaizards figuring out how to do Garganta and then taking along only the absolute strongest people into Hueco Mundo for the purpose of eliminating Hollows at their source, and getting some training done. Perhaps at this stage they would find Ashido Kano, and recruit him, and he could take a slot on the KDF.

From there, I have no idea how to proceed. Rukia shows up or maybe some other Shinigami - for some reason, I envision Kiyone Kotetsu, being hyperactive but clumsy (if Rukia originally had the Hogyoku in her and Yoruichi had to forcibly take it out of her, perhaps Byakuya started to be super-protective, took her out of the Gotei 13 and trained her privately). Whoever it is, Rukia or Kiyone, she wanders Karakura Town, but only finds the occasional soul to konso, wondering where all the Hollows are in a supposed spiritual hotbed (Urahara deliberately jams her Hollow sensor and the KDF takes care of everything). She also feels like she's constantly being watched at all times. Eventually Rukia/Kiyone/whoever stumbles across Uryuu killing a Hollow, who turns around and badmouths the entire Gotei 13, causing her to stalk him and then enroll in his class, only to feel distinctly uncomfortable every time she's in class, as if everybody else there is in on a secret she isn't.

Past that, I honestly don't know. I don't really want to retread canon, but the Soul Society arc is really important to the whole storyline. Giving Urahara the role of genius mastermind again, he might be able to pull something off where he makes Aizen believe Rukia/Kiyone/whoever has the Hogyoku in her and do the same thing as canon. Some crime would have to be made up for her if she didn't give up her Shinigami powers though. Once Rukia/Kiyone/whoever is taken back to Soul Society, Urahara then calls together the KDF and explains absolutely everything to them, at which point a dozen or so of the KDF people take the opportunity to train their asses off for a week and then invade Soul Society. This would be for the sole purpose of forcing Aizen to out himself to Soul Society instead of just kidnapping Rukia/Kiyone/whoever and then whisking her off to Hueco Mundo with nobody the wiser.

Which brings me into what would be the wank moment of the fic. A dozen people backed up by Urahara's planning and knowledge of Soul Society and all his private training holes smash down one of the gates into Seireitei, knock Gin aside by sheer numbers, and then begin to mow down all the competition going through. Tatsuki and Chad would mow down all of the 11th division besides the main four. Ishida would encounter Mayuri and pummel him into non-existence followed by breaking into the 12th division and revealing all of its dirty secrets. Ichigo would fight Tosen, Soi-Fon and Byakuya in that order. Chad would take on Shunsui again, and force the man into releasing his Bankai before finally going down. Tatsuki would face off against either Komamura or Kenpachi and force the battle into a draw. All the others (Mizuiro, Keigo, Ryo, etc.) would basically take on all the lieutenants and other high-ranking (but not captain-class) opponents they come across, and perhaps even eliminate a captain with three of them teaming up against the captain (or perhaps somebody from the Kido Corps?) while Orihime somehow fights off against Unohana. Ashido, if he's around, I would make a former member of the 10th, and then goes to take down Rangiku Matsumoto before going toe-to-toe with Toushiro before finally going down.

Somewhere along the line, Aizen would go "Oh shit", realise he can't fake his death because surely one of the ryoka would along the way point out to one of the Shinigami they don't see any dead body, and then instead try to bring out Kyouka Suigetsu to use on any ryoka he does find just in case (and they're all forewarned).

It would be absolute chaos. And it would be glorious.

Following Aizen finally doing his heel-face-turn and taking whatever Urahara planted into Rukia/Kiyone/whoever and the running off, the ryoka would regroup and run off, heading back to Karakura Town, leaving behind information with somebody trustworthy like Ukitake perhaps to contact them for possible third-party aid once they have a plan of action for Aizen.

After that, I'm not really sure. I think it could ideally turn into a three-way cold war once Aizen realises whatever he got from Rukia/Kiyone/whoever isn't the Hogyoku. He can't attack Karakura Town either and sacrifice it either to create a King's Key because they have so many top-notch fighters there who haven't seen his shikai who keep getting stronger by the day, and could become too strong to handle by the time he gets his own Hogyoku up to speed. Soul Society is hesitant of attacking Hueco Mundo once they get a stable Garganta since they have so little information, and they'll have become aware of just how bloody strong this force of humans in the real world has become. Meanwhile the KDF doesn't care either way so long as there aren't any power-hungry Shinigami trying to upset the spiritual balance or harm Karakura Town.
 

shakeval

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#21
yeah, that would be a total 'holy shit' sorta moment for a lot of the people in soul society, although i have to wonder about the central 46, would kisuke have a group go after them for all the troubles and bullshit they have caused? cause all we seem to know about them is that they are members of the 'upper crust' the noble families.....and assholes, nothing seems to point towards them really being anything special power-wise.

on the subject of spiritual awakening.....if ichigo causes others to awaken and they train and become more powerful then wouldn't they also affect other peoples awakening?
wouldn't it turn into a cascading effect, resulting in more or less all of kankura being aware, maybe not powerful by any means, but awake and able to see ghosts and hollows. i mean don kanonji (or however you spell it) was able to see stuff, but wasn't powerful by any stretch of the imagination.
 

seitora

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#22
Not necessarily. Like I said, Ichigo would be a Hogyoku spawn. Others (beside Yuzu or Karin, who wouldn't have a traumatic event to trip them into overdrive) aren't.

Why that doesn't pop up in canon I think got retconned or something.
 
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