Breath of Fire 3

Maschbot

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#1
Breath of Fire 3 was probably my favorite of the series. But just retelling that story in print format would be boring. Therefore, I'm adding in a few new ingredients to give the story a dash of spice. You have no idea how hard it was for me not to mix metaphors there. Anyway, this is a partial prologue; the rest of the prologue would cover the war between the Urkan people and the Brood, setting up chapter 1 to begin with Ryu's awakening. Terrible? OK? Promising? Let me know.

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Many hundreds of years ago, there was nothing but the earth. No grass grew, no flowers bloomed; no fish swam, no birds flew. The land was pristine, but desolate. How long it existed this way is unknown, but what is known is what sparked the changes. The land came to the attention of a goddess named Myria, who wept to see a land so isolated and barren. Not being able to stand the current state of the land, but unable to affect change by herself, she sought the help of other beings like herself. Three others heeded her call, and together they endeavored to create a world of balance and life.

First was Yggdrasil, the sage. He rooted himself into the world, and from his influence grew other plants; great forests, spreading grasslands, even the aquatic kelp and seaweed. Yggdrasil further created magnificent, towering trees after his own image, and spread them about the land, to monitor and ensure the continued growth of his children. Yggdrasil was renowned for his wisdom and experience, and knew what sort of environment could foster continued life. His creations purified the air and the sea, creating livable atmosphere and water for those that would come behind.

Next was Myria herself, who created the lesser beasts; the fish and fowl, the herd and the pack. Every creature from the tiny mouse to the giant mammoth was crafted with loving care. She distributed them amongst the lands and seas, where the habitats prepared by Yggdrasil sheltered and fed them. Their incredible variety was something that gave Myria no end of satisfaction, as no two species were exactly alike. Though some of her creations would attack others for food or for territory, equilibrium was maintained between predator and prey.

After Myria came her sister, Deis. Where Myria created the lesser beasts, Deis created the greater; Human, Wyndian, Manillo, and many more. Deis valued intelligence, and so her creations were capable of thought and insight. They strove for more than simply to live, and sought to understand and improve their world. These beings were capable of harnessing the magic that existed in the universe, and they used those abilities to good end, creating ever more impressive means to harness the elements they were gifted with.

Lastly was Ladon, the mighty. He created one further race, known as the Brood. Where the other races were designed to improve their world, the Brood were designed to protect it, for there were other forces about the universe than these loving gods and goddesses. The Brood were small in number, but great in power, and they kept a watchful eye over the land their creators had endowed them with.

For a time, peace reigned over the land. The animals and plants thrived and grew diverse, spreading and multiplying in ways never imagined before. The people communed with their gods, and built great works to honor them. They continued to advance, developing machines of greater and greater complexity, and through it all the myriad races lived in harmony, no single race trying to take more than it needed. None of this, however, eased the discontent growing in the heart of the goddess Myria.

For passing millennia, she was proud of the fruits of the creation she had taken part in. As time went by, however, feelings of envy grew within her heart. Even though she had discovered this world, it seemed to her that her contributions were paltry compared to the splendor of her contemporaries. Her beasts did not praise her as did Deis or LadonÆs, nor were they as indispensable to life as YggdrasilÆs. Myria attempted to alter her creations, promoting growth towards more sophisticated and intelligent beings. She did so in secret, hopping to impress the others, and especially her sister, with her success.

Her attempts were only partially successful. Although the creatures she coaxed towards sentience did manage to achieve the gifts of thought and speech, they showed no inclination towards the peaceful coexistence and cooperation that defined the other thinking beings. Rather than integrating themselves into the existing society, they formed into tribal groups outside of it and attempted to take by force that which would have been freely given. Myria was horrified at her failure, and attempted to coax her new creations back towards peaceà but it was too late.

The Brood had been watching and waiting for such an incursion, taking seriously their role as defenders of the realm. Knowing not that it was the work of one of their own caretakers, they struck swiftly and decisively. Though only four warriors were dispatched, they proved more than enough to annihilate the forces arrayed against them. By the time Myria attempted to intervene, her new race had already been destroyed, leaving not a trace of their existence save the ashes of their bones.

Myria could have accepted this tragic act as a lesson, and sought to learn more from her sister or the sage before trying again. She could have embraced the compassion she was famous for, and understood that the Brood were only reacting as could be expected when faced with a violent barbarian horde threatening their protectorate. But MyriaÆs heart had already been twisted, and all she felt was rage.

Her next act was to create a true monster, a powerful creature that would crush the Brood as they had crushed her children. She toiled at it for centuries, fine tuning the abomination by adding bits and pieces of her favored creations as it suited her. When she finished, she released the creature from its volcanic womb and set it about its gruesome mission.

This time, only one warrior was sent. The prince of the Brood confronted the chimera, and battled it to a standstill alone. Unleashing the awesome power of his birthright, the Kaiser Dragon destroyed the monster with nary a single loss of life.

Rather than rage, what Myria now felt was fear. How could the Brood be so powerful? How could they so easily defeat a being bred solely to destroy them? Myria didnÆt know, and the fear consumed her. The BroodÆs record of service to the realm was forgotten. That they had never attacked a single being under their protection was ignored. Myria was sure that the Brood was a danger to her creation, and they had to be stopped.

Myria made her appeal to the other gods. She made an impassioned plea for their aid in ridding the world of the Brood. Their displays of power seemed self evident to Myria, and she was sure that the gods who had stood beside her in creating the realm would stand beside her now and defend it. But it was not to be. Ladon was insulted by her insinuation that his creation would deliberately abandon their duty in pursuit of meaningless conquest, and walked away from Myria. Yggdrasil counseled patience and understanding, feeling that a goddess with so much heart would surely understand her folly given time and perspective. And Deis, though she loved her sister dearly, simply brushed away her worries much as a mother might a childÆs fear of the monster in their closet.

Myria was cut deeply by this perceived betrayal. However, she maintained her composure, and merely said that she would think on YggdrasilÆs and DeisÆ words. And so she retreated to plot, for it was clear to her that she had more enemies than just the Brood. Despite how it pained her, if her fellows could not see the danger staring them in the face, they would have to be bundled away from it forcefully, before they were hurt.

Yggdrasil was the first. He was wise, but he was also sedate; careful in consideration and slow to act. Myria clouded his mind with her magic, reducing both his cognitive and expressive abilities. No longer could the children of the forest hear YggdrasilÆs words, and even if they could, there were no thoughts there to comprehend. Yggdrasil was reduced to what he appeared to be; a spectacular tree, but still just a tree.

After Yggdrasil was Ladon. Though he was furious with MyriaÆs accusations, he was still a noble and honorable soul. When Myria offered to apologize for her rash speech, he made to accept and forgive it wholeheartedly. However, MyriaÆs offer of succor was merely a ruse, and upon LadonÆs arrival he was sealed into a carefully prepared monument from which there could be no release. Though Ladon raged and roared, MyriaÆs trap was well executed, and the mighty dragon god was locked away.

Last was her own sister, Deis. Myria confronted her beloved sister once more, pleading with her to join her in her crusade. Deis, concerned over the seeming disappearance of her friends Yggdrasil and Ladon, could not be swayed, and demanded that Myria cease her foolish campaign and devote her efforts toward aiding Deis in her search for their lost companions. Although MyriaÆs behavior had grown erratic and suspicious, Deis was incapable of believing the worst of her sister, and so the attack which sealed her away also came as a total surprise. Because Myria also loved Deis, her prison was the least onerous. She was sealed in a grand pyramid, and promised her release once MyriaÆs designs reached fruition
 

Avider

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#2
Because I love Breath of Fire 3, I don't like this very much.


Ladon, Myria, Yggdrasil, and Deis seems more like the Greek pantheon of gods than their actual characters in Breath of Fire.


For example, let's take Myria.

In the game, her crime was that she was too overprotective. Yes, she wanted to destroy the Brood because she felt they were too powerful, but by their own admission, it was true.

And if we look at the ruins of Caer Xhan, it's likely that Myria had already seen what happened when her own creations grew too great and destroyed themselves.

With the encroaching desert and that threat of self-annihilation, it's actually pretty understandable why Myria acted the way she did, limiting technology and caging the what green earth there remained with the outer sea.

You basically took a complex character and turned her into a cliche caricature.

She was like a mother who loved a bit too much, who didn't dare let her children out of her sight, who feared for them all the terrible things in life, so much so that she didn't allow them to live a life outside her grasp.


She wasn't a delusional fool with penis-envy.
 

Maschbot

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#3
You actually addressed several things I was trying to do. I did make the quartet more like Greek Gods. Ladon and Yggdrasil didn't really have characters to speak of in the game, and my take was that Deis became the way she did because of her imprisonment, rather than because that was how she had always behaved. They aren't the only characters getting an upgrade in importance, either.

As for Myria, we're going to have to disagree. She basically tore apart the world, set back all the progress that had been made by a couple thousand years, and was slowly choking the world to death. All in a war against a people who had no interest in fighting. Because I do agree that she felt she was being benevolent, the only excuse I have for her actions is paranoid delusion. In reference to that, I was under the impression that the desert spreading was something that Myria was doing, rather than something she was reacting to. I'm replaying the game right now, but I only just got to the plant for the second time, so I'm still a ways away from crossing the ocean.
 

Avider

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#4
She basically tore apart the world, set back all the progress that had been made by a couple thousand years, and was slowly choking the world to death.
What the fuck.

In reference to that, I was under the impression that the desert spreading was something that Myria was doing, rather than something she was reacting to. I'm replaying the game right now, but I only just got to the plant for the second time, so I'm still a ways away from crossing the ocean.
Oh this is what the fuck.



No, it wasn't. The desertification wasn't given a direct cause, but it was something outside of Myria's control.

If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say it was because of people actually, rather than Myria.
 

GenocideHeart

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#5
The desertification was a direct result of the events that led to Caer Xhan being abandoned. Myria had nothing to do with it.

As for her personality, do note that rather than just kill the party, she tried to wipe their memories and return them to their lives without further harm, save for Ryu whom she was attempting to persuade to join her in Eden rather than just killing him. Hell if you take her up on her offer, she keeps her word to the letter and lets Ryu do whatever he wants in her Eden, as long as he accepts not to leave it for the world below, and Teepo also states that she does indeed keep her end of the deal. She was going out of her way to make a peaceful solution work.

That's not what a stereotypical villain does, it's a lot of work to push for a bloodless solution when it'd have been simpler to just kill 'em and finish the job, and you get the feeling she was having doubts about whether she was doing the right thing or not, but that doubt was drowned out by fear.

And, seeing what the Brood did to the world in BoF5, I really have a hard time placing her at fault for thinking they needed culling. Even the dragons themselves agreed, for God's sake.

Also, there's indication Deis was just as much a hedonist with a soft spot for people who suck up to her in the past as she is now. Anyone remember BoFIV? Ershin, which Deis is sealed into? A landscape FILLED WITH CUTE YOUNG MEN serving Deis's every whim?

She's not a bad person, but she was a bit arrogant, perverted and stuck up even in the past, not just in BoF3. All her incarnations have that in common, and their personality also mostly matches.
 

toraneko

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#6
Playing the previous BoF games gives a pretty clear idea of Myria's real personality: she's a cruel bitch who likes toying with mortals, and is utterly terrified by anything that might actually be capable of hurting her. The only real reason she offered that deal was because Ryu had become so powerful that she was afraid he'd actually be able to end her; anything but having to fight Ryu was a better option.

Besides, this is the same Myria that used the power of wishes as the metaphorical golden apple of discord to factionalize the Brood in the first game, in an attempt to have them kill each other off. She also was the one who created Deathevans from BoF2, and we all know how that went.

Right call on Deis, though. She's a dirty snake-woman, she is.

Also a dick-puncher. Poor Garr. :snigger:
 

GenocideHeart

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#7
toraneko said:
Playing the previous BoF games gives a pretty clear idea of Myria's real personality: she's a cruel bitch who likes toying with mortals, and is utterly terrified by anything that might actually be capable of hurting her. The only real reason she offered that deal was because Ryu had become so powerful that she was afraid he'd actually be able to end her; anything but having to fight Ryu was a better option.
Myria may have been cruel in BoF1, but I think BoF3 Myria had a genuine change of heart. She has MULTIPLE OCCASIONS to end Ryu one way or the other since he was a kid and never capitalizes on it, instead leaving him be until he knocks on her door. Moreover, she actually treats her followers nicely, while the old Myria didn't give a rat's ass about them. She singles out the dragons because they are that damn dangerous, and Dragon Quarter fully justifies her, no matter what you may otherwise think of her.

Hell, BoFIV justifies her. Just look at all the damage Fou-Lu manages to do, and just look at what happens when a Yorae Dragon gets pissed because humans are idiots and don't leave well enough alone. Although that makes you wonder WHY Myria bothers protecting humans, given how many times they manage to screw themselves over in the series. Pissing the massively powerful Dragon God off? Check. Supporting an obviously, painfully 'Hi, we are evil' church? Check. The Guardeye device? Check. Caer Xhan and the desert's dilapidated state after the homicidal war that is suggested to have taken place here? Check. WEAPONIZING THE DRAGONS? Fucking check and they ended up reducing the world to a sorrier state than Myria ever could.

If anything, Myria was the one preventing mankind from doing even worse things than what she did. Whether she had good intentions or not, the fact remains that whenever she's gone, something infinitely worse takes her place and makes you miss the days when she was around and things were less shitty.

Also, given how Lord Yuna is implied to be the one responsible for her existence, the fact she's the way she is is actually an IMPROVEMENT over her creator.

Besides, this is the same Myria that used the power of wishes as the metaphorical golden apple of discord to factionalize the Brood in the first game, in an attempt to have them kill each other off. She also was the one who created Deathevans from BoF2, and we all know how that went.
She didn't *create* Deathevans. Evans was one of her *followers* who took her place and jacked her power when she disappeared after BoF1, taking advantage of the vacuum left by her absence. He then went on to become a worse Complete Monster than his goddess.

And in the first game, the Dark Dragons were dicks anyway, the Emperor was just looking for an excuse to slaughter the Light Dragons, and makes it abundantly obvious when you meet him. Sara and Jade may have been corrupted (and I wouldn't be too sure about Jade, as he backstabbed Zog something fierce), but Zog was just a dick to begin with.

Much like Chetyre in Dragon Quarter, I might add.

The difference is that when a human is a dick, he can't do as much damage as a dragon who's a dick.
 

toraneko

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#8
I have yet to find a copy of Dragon Quarter without resorting to eBay, so I can't speak to that.

I don't accept the common theory of BoF4 taking place in continuity to the first three, however. Or, rather, I believe that it takes place on an entirely different world. For that matter, Fou-Lu doesn't qualify as an example of what the Brood can do, since he's the evil half of a god (subtly implied to be Ladon himself), split thanks to Yuna's bungled summoning, and not one of the Brood himself.

And yes, Deathevans most certainly was Myria's spawn. That's stated in-game.
 

GenocideHeart

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#9
toraneko said:
I have yet to find a copy of Dragon Quarter without resorting to eBay, so I can't speak to that.

I don't accept the common theory of BoF4 taking place in continuity to the first three, however. Or, rather, I believe that it takes place on an entirely different world. For that matter, Fou-Lu doesn't qualify as an example of what the Brood can do, since he's the evil half of a god (subtly implied to be Ladon himself), split thanks to Yuna's bungled summoning, and not one of the Brood himself.

And yes, Deathevans most certainly was Myria's spawn. That's stated in-game.
...you do realize that spawn implies motherhood, not creation, right? At most, you can argue that he was her kid, but the power grab he did most definitely was all him, and the fact he was worse than his mom by a large margin is also undeniable - his own second in command, Barubary, is a nicer guy than he is, and Barubary is an actual demon from Hell. And is implied to not really like Deathevan much.

Also, Fou Lu isn't the 'evil' half anything. He was a completely nice guy, going out of his way to avoid conflict until Yuna NUKED HIM WITH MAMI'S SOUL after torturing her. Just to make it hurt more. It's completely and utterly understandable that he lost his shit, because everything else that happened to him up until that point has been one example of human bastardry after the other. If I had been him I too would want to wipe all humans out, because save for Mami, he saw the absolute worst they had to offer and felt it on his hide.

Can you truly call Fou-Lu evil after the empire he helped build repeatedly tries to assassinate him, badmouths him, uses his girlfriend as AMMO in a hellish curse cannon, and then Soniel uses a supposed god-killing sword to backstab him following Fou Lu deciding to spare him? I can't.

Ryu was lucky, he had nice, supportive friends. Fou Lu didn't. In inverted roles, Ryu would've gone evil too.

As for Dragon Quarter, the very first thing you learn is that humans screwed with dragon genes to make them weapons, lost control of them (of course) and they nuked the world so bad that humans and other humanoid races had to hide in caves.

The best part: the evil dragon in this gae is a LIGHT dragon (Chetyre), while the sort-of good one (Odjin) is a Wyrm, one of the most powerful varieties of Dark Dragon.

Also, most humans aren't even fully human, they are genespliced to various degrees with dragon DNA, and the amount of dragon DNA dictates social status (Bosch is a 1/64 elite human, while Ryu is a 1/8192 grunt that no one even knows the name of at the start, but thanks to Odjin can grow to 1/4 in the end).

It's a dark, fucked up world that proves how Myria was right about BOTH technology being dangerous AND Dragons being dangerous.
 

Drawde

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#10
I haven't seen the actual information, but in discussions on the games I've read that IV and V (Dragon Quarter) aren't officially part of the first three games. Note that this isn't people saying that they just don't like those games and don't consider them canon, but actually saying it's the official stance of Capcom.

If that's true it means that all the hints in IV about the creation of the dragons and Myria aren't canon.
 

Deathwings

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#11
Myria's whole "I am the mother of Humanity, so listen to mommy and go sit in the corner" thing doesn't fly anyway. She isn't the mother of Humanity, she's a damn artificial Endless created by that bastard Yuna.

Mind you, we have no idea where the Brood and Ladon come from either. Humans infused with the remnant of the Endless' power with the reunified soul of Ryu and Fou-Lu acting as Ladon perhaps...

Deis we know where she came from at least, an artificial Endless like Myria, hence why they are "sister". Tough apparently getting her own body must have weakened her a lot, because she is nowhere near Myria in term of power.

And BoF 5 was specifically said to take place in a completely different universe by Word Of God, so that game doesn't count.
 

GenocideHeart

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#12
Deathwings said:
Myria's whole "I am the mother of Humanity, so listen to mommy and go sit in the corner" thing doesn't fly anyway. She isn't the mother of Humanity, she's a damn artificial Endless created by that bastard Yuna.
And she still doesn't come near the sheer bastardry and monstrosity that Yuna displays.

My personal opinion, and I stress it's an opinion, is that at Myria was a lot like Haruhi at first - she acted evil because she just plain didn't know any better and there was no one with either the power or the balls to spank her over it until Ryu I came along.

Following that, she went to the polar opposite of the spectrum - from an uncaring goddess, she started caring too much for a single race to make up for it, but she also developed a phobia of dragons over, well, getting spanked. And also over the fact that dragons are, if possible, more dangerous than she is - what do you think Jade and Zog planned to do with Myria's power, make the world all flowers and sunshine?

Myria may have instigated the war, but she was merely the catalyst to a situation that existed to begin with. Jade and Zog were ambitious assholes, if not over Myria's power, they'd have launched their genocidal campaign over some other power with the same result.

I just don't like how everyone assumes it's all Myria's fault. It's EVERYONE's fault - the Dark Dragons's for being dicks, the Light Dragons's for knowing of the danger but doing nothing until the situation exploded - BOTH TIMES, they knew Zog was dangerous, and they knew Myria was after them, but were fucking passive both times - humans for being all around gigantic bastard assholes - how many decent humans do we see besides Mami and to a certain extent General Yohm, who was only doing his job as a faithful retainer of the emperor in spite of his misgivings? - and even the Wyndians for tending to be elitist bastards with a holier than thou attitude in most games - anyone remember their treatment of Nina over simple black wings?

About the only ones who don't royally fuck up in major ways are the Woren, Tiga notwithstanding - the big oaf was just in love, not meaning anything nasty. Hell, Barubary is still to this day one of the noblest characters in the game, and he's a fucking demon. In spite of that, he accepts a duel if challenged, explicilty spares Ryu when he was supposed to really kill him out of some hope that he'd have a worthy opponent one day, and if memory serves outright ignores Deathevan's orders at least once because he disagrees with them.

When the right hand man of the resident Complete Monster, who happens to hail from Hell, is a relatively honorable fellow compared to most everyone else in the world, something is WRONG with society as a whole in that world, and I doubt you can blame Myria for all of it, since things became exponentially worse when she WASN'T around to mess with mortals.
 

Drawde

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#13
On the black-winged Nina.

There was a prophecy stating that when a Windian was born who got black wings, a disaster would soon follow. I'm not certain if it said the child would be born to the royal family or not. But, unless the translation was innacurate (quite possible given the condition of the rest of the translations in the game), the prophecy never said the child would cause the disaster, but was just a warning that it would soon happen.

Of course no one figured that out. All the Windians thougt that the child would cause the disaster. So When Nina II's wings came out black her family hid her. Notice that they hid her, not killed her. They obviously didn't think she'd do anything, but what about the rest of the Windians?

I'm not saying the Windians were completely in the right, but what if the original (Japanese) version of the prophecy was vague enough to not state she was just a warning? What if the prophecy actually made it sound like she WAS the one to cause the disaster?
 

GenocideHeart

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#14
Drawde said:
On the black-winged Nina.

There was a prophecy stating that when a Windian was born who got black wings, a disaster would soon follow. I'm not certain if it said the child would be born to the royal family or not. But, unless the translation was innacurate (quite possible given the condition of the rest of the translations in the game), the prophecy never said the child would cause the disaster, but was just a warning that it would soon happen.

Of course no one figured that out. All the Windians thougt that the child would cause the disaster. So When Nina II's wings came out black her family hid her. Notice that they hid her, not killed her. They obviously didn't think she'd do anything, but what about the rest of the Windians?

I'm not saying the Windians were completely in the right, but what if the original (Japanese) version of the prophecy was vague enough to not state she was just a warning? What if the prophecy actually made it sound like she WAS the one to cause the disaster?
So, the average Wyndians are either bigots or ignorant morons. That's... not much of an improvement. Have they never heard of the whole 'You should look into the details of a prophecy instead of jumping to fucking conclusions' thing?

...wait. Japanese RPG. Nevermind, the idiot ball is always tightly hugged in RPGs in general, and JRPGs in particular.
 

Drawde

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#15
That's actually Standard Operating Procedure in a story that involves actual prophecies. No one EVER figures that sort of thing out until after the prophecy is completed. And I mean EVER.

And that's not counting a prophecy that's vague to begin with. Or that most people don't know the exact wording. As I said the English version is rather obvious that Nina isn't supposed to be the cause of the disaster, though we don't hear the specific prophecy, but I don't know how the Japanese version went, let alone actually being able to read Japanese in the first place. It's probable that the prophecy was an old one and that only a few people knew the actual wording. And that most prophecies of that type are warning you of the cause of the problems.

Partial conjecture, so maybe they are that dumb. But that's how this sort of plot usually works.
 

Avider

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#16
She isn't the mother of Humanity, she's a damn artificial Endless created by that bastard Yuna.
What the fuck is this.

Dragon Quarter isn't part of the continuity of I-III.

IV almost assuredly the same.

So whatever happens in Quarter in no ways justifies anything in I-III. Because they're not the same universe, they don't have to follow the same rules.


Zzz....

Playing the previous BoF games gives a pretty clear idea of Myria's real personality
I dunno, her monologue while the Orbital Station's blowing up around her and imminent death sure as heck doesn't give a pretty clear idea of Myria's real personality at all, no way.

At that point, nobody's watching so what the hell does she gain from acting, even if you suppose she was?

In essence:

Playing BoF 3 gives a pretty clear idea of Myria's real personality.

(Yes, I do love my statements recycling.)
 

GenocideHeart

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#17
It's like people don't believe characters in games can change over time.

Hi Ghaleon, didn't recognize you for a minute there!

The point Avider made is a good one - when no one's there anymore and everything's blowing up, what does she have to gain by acting nice anymore? No, her actions in BoF3 were genuine, if horrendously misguided. The whole game was, if you ask me, about how everyone at one point needs to leave their parents' protection and grow up, and about how too much care can be as bad, if not worse, as being cold and uncaring.

Even in real life, there's parents who'd do some horrifically nasty things for their kids' sake. Myria fell in that trap, simple as that - she decided the end justified the means. The worst part is the dragons seemed to agree with her and passively let her slaughter them...
 

FH_Meta

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#18
Whelp, after thinking for a bit, pacing to try and collect my thoughts, I'll say that I weigh in on GH's side.

Sure Myria started as a bitch, but in 3 she's much nicer. I feel she had to be stopped, but it's more tragic than heroic. You're not stopping a horrific monster like Lord Yuna or Mister L. Blight, but having to fight because your ideals and hers simply can't co-exist.

Now, if you're like me, and like to see 4 as part of the same cycle as 1-3 (for me it's one part Flip-Flop of God, another liking how it gives us a complete story, from middles, to end, to beginning) then it also shows that even someone born of horrible means and ends can change. And given how Myria was kind of a bitch it also means that Yuna probably gets a very ironic end.

Five, though, is all in it's own continuity, although if you don't prefer to see 4 as part of 1-3, then 5 is the horrifying logical end of what happens in 4. People summon, perhaps perfectly, perhaps not, things they can not control, and everything suffers for it.
 

GenocideHeart

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#19
I like to think that Dragon Quarter is what happens after you side with Fou Lu in 4 and slaughter all the humans as the full Infinity dragon. I mean, your whole former party doesn't stand a ghost of a chance against that thing, why should the rest of the world fare any better? Cue nuking and humanity being punted underground like the worms they are in Fou Lu's eyes.

It... makes sense. I mean, seriously, why is the Empire pissing off the, y'know, MASSIVELY POWERFUL DRAGON GOD? Do they not like having a continent under their feet as opposed to a smoking crater? That is, IMHO; the logical conclusion to them sending Fou Lu off the deep end and paying for it when he and Ryu re-merge.
 

GenocideHeart

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#21
Avider said:
Nice fanon, go write a story about it.
I'm still working on my New Vegas fic, so hell no. On that note, I will soon upload the finished first chapter - about damn time.
 
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