Cataclysm

[FinalMax]

Ok, got to speak with a GM about the issue with my leatherworking. Turns out that the patterns at Twilight Highlands had a typo based glitch. The pattern I purchased, Dragonscale Leg Armor, was labeled as needing a 425 skill. I purchased at 508, but it turned out the pattern required a 525 skill to even buy. Got a refund on the Heavy Savage Leather I spent to get the pattern.

That glitch will hopefully be repaired by the next hotfix or maintenance.

 

[Jeopardizer]

80 > 85 was fast, easy, fun, even with my holy nuker spe (Holy Paladin)

The very fast mount is a joke, 4250 po for 30% more speed... (At least I got an Achivements out of it :huh.: )
Normals are har compared to WotLK, but stuffing and good players keep the difficulty down.
Heroics are f*cking hard. Tank has to use CD, DPS to survive and to not take any damage and the healer can still go oom on most boss fights...

Good surprise: Deadmines hero, the last event with Vanessa Van Cleef, it's epic =D

I strated a Worgen ROgue, their beginning zone is awesome, but is lost and then used as a leveling zone for ther horde.

H2 is in the spotlight in Cataclysm, Thrall who give his powers to Garrosh before going all shamy, Garrosh who goes crazy, Sylvanas's ploting etc...
Ally has... Malfurion! Or not, the Elfe/Crow/Bear/thing is neutral. The ex druid-leader is imprisonned, but it's not given enough timelight (Yes, a pnj as powerful as a faction chief get 1 quest, \o/)
Trolls get a new zone, gnomes can't take back Gnomeregan.
But we'll survive, we still have the WIldhammer, who got totally wicked quests!


Murradan, Dwarf Paladin, Fat Heal in Fat Heroics.

 

[Raven1138]

I'm with you on the challenge, my first run through regular Grim Battol was a minor wipe-a-thon and a much needed refresher on making sure classes remembered their CC abilities. Hell, in a few case, my group forgot shamans had a elemental lockdown ability and polymorph does not work on dragonkin. Still, it was great fun and a good challenge.

But in consideration for the...oh who am I trying to kid. In pure mockery and in the spirit of the season, Total Biscuit has just released his first holiday single Hark the Wrathbabies! <a href='http://www.youtube.com/TotalHalibut#p/u/1/lglHxkF4fAA' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Feel free to watch and laugh at the lamentations of the formerly entitled scrubs.</a>

 

[Raven1138]

And in personal news, I just want to say, <a href='http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/rexxar/renzarn/achievement#97:15069:a5518' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>I stood in the fucking fire!</a>

Has anyone else known the glory of being barbequed by Deathwing yet? And for those asking, I got roasted in Uldum, so it's not just the original zones, the Cataclysm zones are fair game for fly by pwning.

 

[akun50]

I haven't. But then I've spent a good amount of time in either the major cities, Vashj'ir, Northrend or Outlands.

My most adventurous character, Sereluna, has been around Thousand Needles and is getting into Tanaris....

Might send her to Western Plaguelands just to see different content.

Edit: @raven: Congrats? :huh.:

 

[Raven1138]

I haven't. But then I've spent a good amount of time in either the major cities, Vashj'ir, Northrend or Outlands.

My most adventurous character, Sereluna, has been around Thousand Needles and is getting into Tanaris....

Might send her to Western Plaguelands just to see different content.

Edit: @raven: Congrats? :huh.:

Hey, it's a cool achievement and a neat idea to keep Deathwing present in the eyes of players. Plus, it was pretty cool for the holidays to be killing time and had Deathwing show up and go "Merry Fucking Christmas! *FWOOSH*"

Just so you know, I do plan on getting back the repair bill out of his hide in the future. Good to have a goal for next year.

 

[akun50]

Just ran both Western and Eastern Plaguelands on my feral Druid.

Save for a glitch where a Val'kyr blocked my view during an otherwise cool cutscene between Sylvanas and Koltira, the quests were fairly easy.

I'm not sure if it's because grinding up a rogue made me more aware of how to handle the cat form or if it's because I was at a high level for the areas (though I finished out at level 55), but I literally tore through most of both areas with little to no issue.

Darrowshire remains quite the depressing place for me. I don't know why, but the fact that Pamela doesn't even know she's dead just....

Maybe it won't get to others, but it just made me sad. I had to exit out and watch a few funny videos before I was ready to press on.

(of course the fact that her uncle Carlin sends you in to check on a girl who's apparently been living in an otherwise abandoned town for who knows how long and is hoping she's still alive..... <_< )

The nice thing is that there's a counter to that chain quest in Eastern Plaguelands that ends on a surprisingly high note considering that, given that it's the plaguelands, one would expect it to end poorly. (no more spoilers for you! )

If you enter the Eastern Plaguelands from the road from the Western Plaguelands, you'll come across a caravan with pair of quests. Complete them and you'll start a chain where, as you progress through the area, you'll unlock various buffs that are essentially permanent... while you're in the Eastern Plaguelands. The first three unlocked are an attack and spell buff, but there's also a "luck" buff that'll cause random bags to drop which have extra money inside. (possibly other loot too, but I never got anything but money). Though, to be honest, one of the latter buffs available is better, so I'd swap to that once you can get it.

You can ride on the caravan to it's next destination (and since the caravan goes to all but one of the towers in the Eastern Plaguelands, it's a nice way to avoid combat).

One of the ones in the middle gives you an extra 2% boost to XP and it's fairly early one when you can gain access to it (It's after you complete all the quests at the first stop, if memory serves).

 

[endev8003]

The buff that sometimes drop extra bags can drop a non-combat pet <a href='http://www.wowhead.com/item=66076' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Mr. Grubbs</a>.

There is also an achievement for getting all of the passengers for the caravan. There is one that can give trouble because of a bug, the Goblin. Once you have recruited him, it won't show on the achievement. Just exit the game and go back in again, and it might show correctly. That worked for me.

 

[Cornuthaum]

<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dTxcHulFBI' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Darrowshire remains quite the depressing place for me.</a> I don't know why, but the fact that Pamela doesn't even know she's dead just.... sad.gif

Maybe it won't get to others, but it just made me sad. I had to exit out and watch a few funny videos before I was ready to press on.

 

[winchester]

I wasn't going to restart my WoW subscription, but I'm weak, so I got Cata for myself for Christmas...

On 80-85: Way too short, I felt - I did each new zone in one day each, dinging 85 early in the fourth zone. That's complete with loremaster achievment and end-of-questline achievments, though I skipped on stuff like the "bounce 20 times" thing in Hyjal.

On Worgen: I rolled a druid, have played her through all of Gilneas and she's waiting for me to pick her back up again in Darkshore. Fun zone, but only if you're a worgen - the whole place is *totally* empty if you're not. There aren't even any forsaken invaders to slaughter. :/ Also ditched my old, under-developed death knight (who got as far as outland and then I didn't feel like playing her anymore) in favor of a Worgen one. Sadly, you can't fight in human form at all, it would have been epic if you could just switch to worgen form for running. (Mostly I'd want this to keep the snooty brit voices of the Gilnean humans....)

On Goblins: Haven't tried that yet. I really should play some Horde characters too, but... see below.

On the new fluff: Anyone else feel like the Horde are growing noticeably more evil, especially the Forsaken? With Varian being all "death to the Horde", and Thrall being busy trying to keep Azeroth from falling apart physically, I can get Garrosh Hellscream being agressive. Haven't been back to Mulgore yet, so I'm not sure how Blaine stacks up to his father. But Sylvanas? Damn, I wanted to strangle the bitch after the Gilnean campaign.

On dungeon queues: OK, so I could kind of understand the 30 minute wait for each dungeon on Normal, seeing as everyone had probably moved on to the heroics by the time I bought the expansion. But getting to the Heroics and finding *double* the queue time? AAAARGH.

On the redone lowbie zones: I've played two characters through Elwynn and into Westfall so far (one of which was the DK, though - thought it might be a good idea to do some quests while I leveled my gathering skills...). Elwynn didn't have any major changes other than the new flight masters, but Westfall? The first blasted questgiver you encounter when you get there caused me to take a five minute break for gutbusting paroxysms of laughter, and Redridge is even better. After that, Duskwood was a bit of a disappointment, though, it hadn't changed a bit.

Darkshore promises to be an adventure, the whole place is pretty much impassable terrain now, and I was saddened to see some of the people you couldn't save during the first quest there.

On the new dungeons: Couldn't tell you, still waiting in the queue... Well, not really. I've managed Grim Batol and Halls of Origination, plus everything except the last boss in Lost City. HoO is hard, and since it's comparatively long it's really hard to get a group that'll do all of the four upper level bosses. (Seven bosses in a dungeon? Been a while since we had dungeons that long...)


SP

 

[mgsaintz]

With the Forsaken it's a given that they're getting a lot more evil since the biggest reason for revenge is already taken care of, now their other objective is getting back at the living which is their new reason. Doesn't help that Sylvanas is more or less insane because of her past and having no real purpose anymore. As for the rest of the Horde there's a few Generals wanting to play a bit rougher since they believe they can get away with it without Thrall around and if you play some of the Horde quest lines you'll see that even Garrosh has limits before he puts an axe in your head. A lot of the fighting going on with the Horde is just securing land resources especially after Deathwing's rearranging the landscape since it gave an opportunity for the Alliance to attack some parts of Kalimdor.

You should give goblins a try, their starting area is fun to play around in especially when you get the hotrod. The starting areas for Horde is actually quite good with the exception of Blood Elves which is still annoying to do.

 

[Dark Knight Gafgar]

With the Forsaken it's a given that they're getting a lot more evil since the biggest reason for revenge is already taken care of, now their other objective is getting back at the living which is their new reason.? Doesn't help that Sylvanas is more or less insane because of her past and having no real purpose anymore.

Lies and slander!

The Banshee Queen leads the Forsaken to glory! We shall reforge the lost Kingdom of Lordaeron and there secure a future for ourselves, free from the interference of the Alliance and the Horde! It is the living who refuse to allow us peace, and so the living will be crushed!

We are the Forsaken - we shall slaughter any who stand in our way!

 

[violinmana]

With the Forsaken it's a given that they're getting a lot more evil since the biggest reason for revenge is already taken care of, now their other objective is getting back at the living which is their new reason.á Doesn't help that Sylvanas is more or less insane because of her past and having no real purpose anymore.

Lies and slander!

The Banshee Queen leads the Forsaken to glory! We shall reforge the lost Kingdom of Lordaeron and there secure a future for ourselves, free from the interference of the Alliance and the Horde! It is the living who refuse to allow us peace, and so the living will be crushed!

We are the Forsaken - we shall slaughter any who stand in our way!

FUCKYEAH

 

[akun50]

Read someone bitching about lag in general chat a few days ago and came up with this:

Lag.

It kills 6 out of 10 raids, ends 8 out of 10 killing sprees in PVP and is known to cause newbs to roll on gear that isn't their spec.

Well, now, there's a cure, possibly maybe.

FuchenWork.

In large doses, it can let players vent their frustrations while doing normal things, like eating yogurt in a turtleneck, bicycling or taking massive dumps.

Ask your ISP about FuchenWork to see if they can get off their lazy asses and do it.

Warning: FuchenWork may cause rage, keyboard slamming, spittle on the monitor, seizures, comments about assclowns, higher internet-related bills and shrunken e-penis.

back on thread:
My personal predictions are the Varian is going to end up a raid boss. There's just too much fishy shit in his backstory to think otherwise, especially since, according to lore, he killed Onyxia by STABBING HER IN THE BRAIN and ONYXIA IS BACK.

Then there's the load of crap about him supposedly splitting into two due to a "spell error" on Onyxia's part and merge "back" into one when Onyxia miscasts a FIREBALL SPELL. A dragon of ONYXIA'S AGE fucking up spells THAT badly? Including such a BASIC flame spell? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! WHAT BULLSHIT!

I'd be more inclined to think she made a clone of Varian and has been cultivating a convoluted back up plan if/when she's found out so she can puppet Varian.

The fact that she's been revealed to be still alive all these years indicates that this is not only fully possible, but the most likely fact.

As for how she and Nefarion survived? And are now more powerful than ever?

Well, a goofy little pet theory of mine calls back to how Blizzard said retconned a comment that Troll Death Knights found mentioning that the Echo Isles had already been recapture with the idea that we were just smashing coconuts on Echo Isles instead of Zalazane and his minions...

That's right, both dragons made coconut golems of themselves. In fact, considering Kathryn Prestor, Onyxia's human disguise, was a rich noblewoman, it would've been simplicity itself to order the hundred thousand or so coconuts it would need to make said things over the course of multiple parties to celebrate various occasions for "the young king".

 

[violinmana]

You do realize that Onyxia is undead in the raid, and that she's controlled entirely by Nefarian, right? And in canon, Nefarian never got killed.

 

[akun50]

You do realize that Onyxia is undead in the raid, and that she's controlled entirely by Nefarian, right? And in canon, Nefarian never got killed.

wat.

.......

Nefarion's never been killed in lore? Seriously?

*sigh*

*puts on the NOOBTARD sign again* :blue:

 

[Dark Knight Gafgar]

According to Blizz Onyxia and Nefarian both "escaped" death once, only for Varian to pop up in a comic book and kill Onyxia dead.

Hell, the only reason Arthas actually died in the lore is because NPCs were there.

Raid bosses that are also lore-important tend to magically survive in the lore no matter how many times they get killed per week ingame.

 

[endev8003]

Honestly, in the Warcraft/WoW universe, you can never say if someone is dead or not. And even when dead, doesn't mean that they can't cause trouble later on.

Examples:
Illidan at the end of Frozen Throne. It looked like Arthas killed him there.
Muradin in Warcraft 3, when Arthas got Frostmourne
Balnazzar in Frozen Throne, who was supposedly killed by Varimathras on Sylvanas' orders.

 

[Dubrichius]

Honestly, in the Warcraft/WoW universe, you can never say if someone is dead or not. And even when dead, doesn't mean that they can't cause trouble later on.

Examples:
Illidan at the end of Frozen Throne. It looked like Arthas killed him there.
Muradin in Warcraft 3, when Arthas got Frostmourne
Balnazzar in Frozen Throne, who was supposedly killed by Varimathras on Sylvanas' orders.

There's at least a semi-decent explanation for how Balnazzar survived, he's a member of a <a href='http://www.wowpedia.org/Nathrezim' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>species</a> that are able to reform their physical form if they are 'killed', but it's not a 100% guaranteed thing for them, as the above link describes in great detail.

 

[Kayeich]

Violin is partly incorrect about Nefarian making it out alive, and one major NPC -does- mention his death. Saurfang comments in-game about putting his head on a pike in WotLK (though only if you turned in the head quest).

Sinestra, Nefarian and Onyxia are -all- undead in Cataclysm.

Nefarian just happens to be responsible for Onyxia's ressurection, we don't know who was responsible for Nefarian's and Sinestra's.

If you look at Nefarian's new model, you'll actually notice his ribs are exposed too.

 

[Dark Knight Gafgar]

Honestly, in the Warcraft/WoW universe, you can never say if someone is dead or not. And even when dead, doesn't mean that they can't cause trouble later on.

Examples:
Illidan at the end of Frozen Throne. It looked like Arthas killed him there.
Muradin in Warcraft 3, when Arthas got Frostmourne
Balnazzar in Frozen Throne, who was supposedly killed by Varimathras on Sylvanas' orders.

Mal'ganis in WC3 is still alive as well.

 

[akun50]

Which is intriguing, given that Tichondrius seems to be dead for good.

His claw is actually used in a quest in Felwood, which seems to indicate that he's not going to be making a return, as the Dreadlords don't normally leave a corpse when defeated in the usual way.

So that claw had to be torn from a cooling body.

..... I assume.

 

[violinmana]

Which is intriguing, given that Tichondrius seems to be dead for good.

His claw is actually used in a quest in Felwood, which seems to indicate that he's not going to be making a return, as the Dreadlords don't normally leave a corpse when defeated in the usual way.

So that claw had to be torn from a cooling body.

..... I assume.

Dreadlords have claws for penises. You were holding the primary reproductive organ of a vampire.

Congratulations.

 

[akun50]

:mellow:

What gender was Tichondrius again? Female, right?

RIGHT?! :wacko:

 

[Lord of Bones]

With the Forsaken it's a given that they're getting a lot more evil since the biggest reason for revenge is already taken care of, now their other objective is getting back at the living which is their new reason.á Doesn't help that Sylvanas is more or less insane because of her past and having no real purpose anymore.

Lies and slander!

The Banshee Queen leads the Forsaken to glory! We shall reforge the lost Kingdom of Lordaeron and there secure a future for ourselves, free from the interference of the Alliance and the Horde! It is the living who refuse to allow us peace, and so the living will be crushed!

We are the Forsaken - we shall slaughter any who stand in our way!

That would be more credible if Sylvanas didn't, y'know, gank the surviving Lordaeronians in WC3. Or commit biological atrocities. Or get duped by a Dreadlord.