Century King Black Sun Xander

[roting_CORPSE]

basic premise is the same with KR BLACK only instead of Koutaro and Nobuhiko we got Xander and Jesse who were born on the same date and on a Solar Eclipse.

Gorgom a 50,000 year old secret organization of Demons and Altered Humans gets ready for the selection of two Century King Candidates.

I was thinking of both Xander and jesse's fathers has dealings with Gorgom and knew when they were born that they would be the next century kings and making so that their friendship was predetermined for them.

I know that koutaro and nobuhiko were celebrating their 19th b-day when they were kidnapped in KR Black but for this and for the sake of continuity lets make it 16 and a couple of weeks before the first episode of buffy.

so xander escapes in Battle Hopper (after he got his King Stone and being turned in to a cyborg) with the help of jesse dad who has a last minute change of heart, xander's dad gets killed when jesse gets tangled in wires and severely electrocuted rendering him in to a coma and thus left behind, while jesse dad lives long enough to explain things before getting killed himself.

willow at this point will be his primary info gatherer being the hacker girl she is to help xander uncover Gorgoms plans and stop them to save their friend.

of course when buffy shows up xander and willow will learn that stopping a 50,000 year old organization hellbent on world conquest will be just one of their many many worries.

 

[ran_hoshino]

I'm not sure about this. I mean I'm a huge Kamen Rider fan, I'm just not so sure about this idea. Some of the Kamen Rider monsters of the week are just a little too well organised and powerfull; and that's if you don't bring the Great Leader into the story. Still if you could balance out the power levels it could probably be done.

Although, I do think it's a rather interesting idea. What we see of Xander and Jesse's relationship in Buffy does seem to fit in someways with the relationship between Black and Shadow Moon.

Also how far would you take the idea, what I mean is would you try and include the Black RX storyline or not?

 

[roting_CORPSE]

I am toying with the idea of him transforming to RX during the Graduation eclipse, he'd still have his BLACK form afterward though (BLACK will be more powerful at night and RX at day type of thing)

Robo and Bio rider forms along with Gorgom Sword Saint Birugenia would appear during the whole Initiative and ADAM mess.

Shadowmoon would appear and kill Birugenia and take the Satan Sabre mid season 5 and team up with the scoobies by order of the Creation King to stop glory from destroying everything of course he would also be gunning after dawn (like the knights) and xander (for his kingstone).

don't know where to place the final battle with gorgom and the creation king though.
don't know where to place Crisis as well.


of course this is all an Idea at the moment can't say for certain if and when am I going to write. Im still racking my head on what my college Thesis would be.

 

[ran_hoshino]

I am toying with the idea of him transforming to RX during the Graduation eclipse, he'd still have his BLACK form afterward though (BLACK will be more powerful at night and RX at day type of thing)

Robo and Bio rider forms along with Gorgom Sword Saint Birugenia would appear during the whole Initiative and ADAM mess.

Shadowmoon would appear and kill Birugenia and take the Satan Sabre mid season 5 and team up with the scoobies by order of the Creation King to stop glory from destroying everything of course he would also be gunning after dawn (like the knights) and xander (for his kingstone).

don't know where to place the final battle with gorgom and the creation king though.
don't know where to place Crisis as well.


of course this is all an Idea at the moment can't say for certain if and when am I going to write. Im still racking my head on what my college Thesis would be.

Huh, well that's an interesting idea, particularly the bit about Black and Black RX.

A few more questions;

1: When would Shadowmoon make his first appearance in the fic?

2: How would Mayor Wilkins try and deal with the Gorgom?

3: How does becoming Black change Xander's interactions with Buffy when she finally appears in Sunndale?

4: What's the comparitive strength of the average Buffy vampire when compared against a the typical Kamen Rider monster of the Week?

 

[roting_CORPSE]

I am toying with the idea of him transforming to RX during the Graduation eclipse, he'd still have his BLACK form afterward though (BLACK will be more powerful at night and RX at day type of thing)

Robo and Bio rider forms along with Gorgom Sword Saint Birugenia would appear during the whole Initiative and ADAM mess.

Shadowmoon would appear and kill Birugenia and take the Satan Sabre mid season 5 and team up with the scoobies by order of the Creation King to stop glory from destroying everything of course he would also be gunning after dawn (like the knights) and xander (for his kingstone).

don't know where to place the final battle with gorgom and the creation king though.
don't know where to place Crisis as well.


of course this is all an Idea at the moment can't say for certain if and when am I going to write. Im still racking my head on what my college Thesis would be.

Huh, well that's an interesting idea, particularly the bit about Black and Black RX.

A few more questions;

1: When would Shadowmoon make his first appearance in the fic?

2: How would Mayor Wilkins try and deal with the Gorgom?

3: How does becoming Black change Xander's interactions with Buffy when she finally appears in Sunndale?

4: What's the comparitive strength of the average Buffy vampire when compared against a the typical Kamen Rider monster of the Week?

Answers:

1.) like I said Shadow moon would likely appear mid season 5 most likely after the troll incident.

2.) Gorgom help wilkins financially when he founded Sunnydale, in exchange for recruiting any demons and humans who might be interested in joining gorgom, and to use sunnydale as a testbed for their new monsters.

3.) Xander would probably stay the same though much less of a goof, though he would still have a crush on buffy it will be downplayed a bit, buffy would feel uneasy around xander at first because he fully embraced being a Hero while she still wants a normal life.

4.) depends on the Gorgom Monster of the week? some like the 'rhino monster' has enough power to knock a small crane tower down and some more or less are on the level with some of the demons in the buffyverse, it largely depends on what tpe of animal is the monster based on.

 

[ran_hoshino]

I am toying with the idea of him transforming to RX during the Graduation eclipse, he'd still have his BLACK form afterward though (BLACK will be more powerful at night and RX at day type of thing)

Robo and Bio rider forms along with Gorgom Sword Saint Birugenia would appear during the whole Initiative and ADAM mess.

Shadowmoon would appear and kill Birugenia and take the Satan Sabre mid season 5 and team up with the scoobies by order of the Creation King to stop glory from destroying everything of course he would also be gunning after dawn (like the knights) and xander (for his kingstone).

don't know where to place the final battle with gorgom and the creation king though.
don't know where to place Crisis as well.


of course this is all an Idea at the moment can't say for certain if and when am I going to write. Im still racking my head on what my college Thesis would be.

Huh, well that's an interesting idea, particularly the bit about Black and Black RX.

A few more questions;

1: When would Shadowmoon make his first appearance in the fic?

2: How would Mayor Wilkins try and deal with the Gorgom?

3: How does becoming Black change Xander's interactions with Buffy when she finally appears in Sunndale?

4: What's the comparitive strength of the average Buffy vampire when compared against a the typical Kamen Rider monster of the Week?

Answers:

1.) like I said Shadow moon would likely appear mid season 5 most likely after the troll incident.

2.) Gorgom help wilkins financially when he founded Sunnydale, in exchange for recruiting any demons and humans who might be interested in joining gorgom, and to use sunnydale as a testbed for their new monsters.

3.) Xander would probably stay the same though much less of a goof, though he would still have a crush on buffy it will be downplayed a bit, buffy would feel uneasy around xander at first because he fully embraced being a Hero while she still wants a normal life.

4.) depends on the Gorgom Monster of the week? some like the 'rhino monster' has enough power to knock a small crane tower down and some more or less are on the level with some of the demons in the buffyverse, it largely depends on what tpe of animal is the monster based on.

Once again your answers make alot of sense.

The only thing I'm iffy on is Shadowmoon's late appearance in the fic; but that's probably just my inner fanboy complaining. I also can't help but wonder how Xander's dealings with Shadowmoon will affect his feelings on the Buffy/Angelus debacle.

 

[roting_CORPSE]

xander would have understood what was buffy going through because he knew sooner or later he would have to fight and or kill jesse who he considers a brother in order to save his other friends and maybe even the world he knew that was a fight best fought alone.

xander would've played damage control making sure angelus never gets far with his threats or harm an innocent civillian while encouraging and backing buffy up but making sure to leave angelus' death in buffy's hands.

 

[ran_hoshino]

Okay that makes quite a bit of sense. Seems like you've got most of the basics for the fic and it's mechanics down, I commend you for the thought you seem to have put into the fic.

 

[roting_CORPSE]

whats anyones thoughts on Faith being turned in to a rider by gorgom much like Ichigo and Niigo (but with The First/Next costume), to try and retrieve black sun while shadowmoon is still in a coma and birugenia hasn't been released yet.

and have some of the Council members have connection with gorgom?

 

[ran_hoshino]

whats anyones thoughts on Faith being turned in to a rider by gorgom much like Ichigo and Niigo (but with The First/Next costume), to try and retrieve black sun while shadowmoon is still in a coma and birugenia hasn't been released yet.

and have some of the Council members have connection with gorgom?

Eh, I'm really not to sure on this idea, it just doesn't seem to fit Gorgom to try and create someone else to fight a against the Black Sun. I could see them maybe trying to use her lifeforce or something to force Shadow Moon awake, but I just can't see Gorgom turning Faith into a modified human like Shocker did with Ichigo and Niigo.

On the other hand I could very easily believe that some of the members of the Watcher's Council would have connections to Gorgom.

 

[ksho]

whats anyones thoughts on Faith being turned in to a rider by gorgom much like Ichigo and Niigo (but with The First/Next costume), to try and retrieve black sun while shadowmoon is still in a coma and birugenia hasn't been released yet.

and have some of the Council members have connection with gorgom?

Eh, I'm really not to sure on this idea, it just doesn't seem to fit Gorgom to try and create someone else to fight a against the Black Sun. I could see them maybe trying to use her lifeforce or something to force Shadow Moon awake, but I just can't see Gorgom turning Faith into a modified human like Shocker did with Ichigo and Niigo.

On the other hand I could very easily believe that some of the members of the Watcher's Council would have connections to Gorgom.

It's more probable than you think. A manga chapter explored this possibility in fact.

Presenting Kamen Rider Black 07 (A riotrooper type rider based on Black):

http://www.animevice.com/kamen-rider-black-07/18-24025/

 

[roting_CORPSE]

whats anyones thoughts on Faith being turned in to a rider by gorgom much like Ichigo and Niigo (but with The First/Next costume), to try and retrieve black sun while shadowmoon is still in a coma and birugenia hasn't been released yet.

and have some of the Council members have connection with gorgom?

Eh, I'm really not to sure on this idea, it just doesn't seem to fit Gorgom to try and create someone else to fight a against the Black Sun. I could see them maybe trying to use her lifeforce or something to force Shadow Moon awake, but I just can't see Gorgom turning Faith into a modified human like Shocker did with Ichigo and Niigo.

On the other hand I could very easily believe that some of the members of the Watcher's Council would have connections to Gorgom.

It's more probable than you think. A manga chapter explored this possibility in fact.

Presenting Kamen Rider Black 07 (A riotrooper type rider based on Black):

http://www.animevice.com/kamen-rider-black-07/18-24025/

please tell me you know where to download and/or read that.

 

[ksho]

No idea...

Though the fact that the scan was translated might indicate there's an english version somewhere out there.