Harry Potter Chains of Fate

AbyssalDaemon

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#1
In the story I'm currently trying to write Harry is the recantation of Kain who not willing to concede defeat to either the Hylden or Elder God after being fatally wounded during a battle between the three uses a rather experimental spell that would allow his reborn self to remember his previous life, unfortunately for Kain when Voldemort hit Harry with Avada Kedavra the spell was forced somewhat into stasis in order to keep him alive and stayed in this state up to the events of his third year at Hogwarts in which the Dementors and use of the time turner force the spell to semi-activate, leaving Harry with a good portion of Kain's memories but very little of his actual powers or abilities.

Harry in this is going to have several goals such as gathering magical energy in order to full activate the spell, his freedom from Dumbledore, his freedom from the MoM, the destruction of Voldemort and all of his supporters, finding his original body and getting the Soul Reaver back, and returning to Nosgoth in order to deal with both the Hylden and Elder God.

Story and power wise I'm going to be using the Blood Omen with elements of the other games showing up here and there. This is mainly because it always rather irritated me that in Blood Omen a newly risen Kain has absolutely no trouble slaughtering his way through nearly two dozen bandits, while in BO2/Defience he's having trouble with a single guard.

Anyway I was wondering if people would be willing help me come up some titles for Kain given that after living for several millennia he would have at least have a few and the only one I've come up is No-Life-King and that was taken from Hellsing and to also point out any plot holes or weakness so that I can get those fixed before I write the actual story.

One of the biggest pieces of trouble IÆm having is what Harry will do once he arrives back for his fourth year. I canÆt really see the Kain part of Harry ever forgiving Dumbledore for his manipulations or forgiving and forgetting RonÆs actions during the year. On another note what do people want to see happen to Snape? Given that nosgothion magic is vary much like a battering ram when compared to the scalpel like magic that the average wizard uses, the first time he tries to breach HarryÆs mind will have him being unpleasantly surprised.

At some point I'm going to have Harry start on the creation his own force of loyal minions and transform the most trusted of them into vampires; given that I'm using the VtM clans as model for the clans that would form under him, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for some of them.

*All ready chosen clans*
Brujah/Tremere/Cappadocians/Tzimisce: Hermione; I figured that anyone that she brought across would have a somewhat unnatural interest in learning and her personality fits with both the regular and True Brujah.

Malkavian/Salubri/Ravnos: Luna; still haven't figured out how she and Harry are going to meet, but figure that her childer would rather "different" outlook on reality when compared to anyone else brought across and that all three clans seem to rather suit the her.

Gangrel: Neville; the clan will be basically the same but with some D&D druid like abilities added on.

Nosferatu: Draco; who unlike in most stories that have him as a main character will be the same as he was in the book a braggart and bully. The main reason that Harry brings him across his for his connections throughout the wizarding world and because he really managed to piss him off. Which is why Draco and his Clan will be cursed with their ugliness.

*Clans that haven't been chosen*
Ventrue/Lasombra: I figure that both clans would be started by a Pureblood, but am unsure of who would be good in this role, any suggestions would be appreciated.

Assamite: ???; any suggestions on this one would be really appreciated.

Toreador: a veela; I really sure whether I want to be Fleur, her sister, or some OC.
 

Israfel

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#2
Hey, first of all, this looks very good, I'm looking forward to it, I love stories like this. Secondly, why does he need titles? He's been battling the 'authority figures' of Nosgoth for about as long as I can remember and generally titles come with positions of power, I suppose you could give him some 'battlefield titles' such as the title of '100-man slayer' that Guts earns in Berserk. Those would be pretty easy to give considering all of his 'unique' traits and abilities that he would undoubtedly become known for. Some possible titles could be things like The Ascendant (because in the first game he was banished because he evolved, or ascended, before the leader), Essence Taker Kain, Soul Stealer Kain, or Soul Power Kain *says in deep baritone black mans voice*. Hehe just kidding on that last one :lol: . But yah. do whatever you want, just get it written and posted, I want to read it! :D Good luck.
 

runestar

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#3
What are you going to do about his soul reaver? And I think I will stick with Scion of balance. :lol:
 

Hawk

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#4
Assassamite: Bellatrix. :)

Lasombra: Hmmm, tough choice, but Narcissa would be my number one choice.

Ventrue: Daphne Greengrass or possibly even Fudge.
 

H-Man

Random phantom.
#5
Israfel said:
Some possible titles could be things like The Ascendant (because in the first game he was banished because he evolved, or ascended, before the leader), Essence Taker Kain, Soul Stealer Kain, or Soul Power Kain *says in deep baritone black mans voice*.
Er... Raziel 'ascended', not Kain. You're mixing up the plots.

Kain: almost killed by bandits, turned into a Vampire, kills the Guardians and takes over Nosgoth.
Raziel: evolving into a part-bat creature, thrown into a lake of acid, turned into a Specter, kills his brothers and almost kills Kain.
 

Tom_Badgerlock

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#6
i have *no* idea what you are talking about, care to enlighten me?
And iam pleasently surprised that you didn't have hermione bashing, most independant harry have that :/
very good idea, it will be nice to have it appear......:)
 

H-Man

Random phantom.
#7
Okay... in Blood Omen, Mortanius wanted to end the corruption of the Guardians and also stop the Hylden. So he used Kain as his pawn.

In Soul Reaver, Raziel, a vampire, evolved before Kain, and so he was doomed to die by water (which is acid for vampires).
 

Israfel

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#8
Er... Raziel 'ascended', not Kain. You're mixing up the plots.

Kain: almost killed by bandits, turned into a Vampire, kills the Guardians and takes over Nosgoth.
Raziel: evolving into a part-bat creature, thrown into a lake of acid, turned into a Specter, kills his brothers and almost kills Kain
I thought it was that in the original Soul Reaver (for PS1) Kain was banished to the netherworld (or wherever that spirit world place was) for evolving before the head guy did, when he evolved he gained those wings but they were shredded when he was exiled which is why you can only glide and not fly, then again it has been years since I played the game so I could be mistaken.
 

AbyssalDaemon

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#9
Israfel

Hey, first of all, this looks very good, I'm looking forward to it, I love stories like this. Secondly, why does he need titles?
Thanks; the titles are because he's been ruling a good portion of Nosgoth for the last few millennia, a good example would be Rand al'Thor from the Wheel of Time books who has the titles of He Who Comes with the Dawn, the Car'a'carn, the Coramoor. Shadowkiller, Lord of the Morning, Prince of the Dawn, True Defender of the Light, ect, that he earned during his previous life. While another example would be Odin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_names_of_Odin

He's been battling the 'authority figures' of Nosgoth for about as long as I can remember and generally titles come with positions of power, I suppose you could give him some 'battlefield titles' such as the title of '100-man slayer' that Guts earns in Berserk. Those would be pretty easy to give considering all of his 'unique' traits and abilities that he would undoubtedly become known for. Some possible titles could be things like The Ascendant (because in the first game he was banished because he evolved, or ascended, before the leader), Essence Taker Kain, Soul Stealer Kain, or Soul Power Kain *says in deep baritone black mans voice*. Hehe just kidding on that last one.

I thought it was that in the original Soul Reaver (for PS1) Kain was banished to the netherworld (or wherever that spirit world place was) for evolving before the head guy did, when he evolved he gained those wings but they were shredded when he was exiled which is why you can only glide and not fly, then again it has been years since I played the game so I could be mistaken.
I think that youÆre thinking of Raziel from Soul Reaver, here's a rather useful site if you want to know about Kain. http://www.nosgoth.net/Blood_Omen/index.html

Hehe just kidding on that last one? . But yah. do whatever you want, just get it written and posted, I wan to read it!? Good luck.
Thanks! I'll be sure too. It will be awhile before I can start though I still need get my Hard Dive switched over to my new computer.

runestar

What are you going to do about his soul reaver?
The Soul Reaver, along with other odds and ends that Kain managed to collect during his time on Nosgoth are all laying around in various pocket dimensions.

Hawk

Assassamite: Bellatrix. :)

Lasombra: Hmmm, tough choice, but Narcissa would be my number one choice.

Ventrue: Daphne Greengrass or possibly even Fudge.
Thanks for the suggestion... hadn't really though of Daphne Greengrass and given how little is known about her she'd be perfect Lasombra/Ventrue. The Black sisters... well lets just say I got something special planed for them. :D

Tom_Badgerlock

i have *no* idea what you are talking about, care to enlighten me?
http://www.nosgoth.net/Blood_Omen/index.html

And iam pleasently surprised that you didn't have hermione bashing, most independant harry have that :/
very good idea, it will be nice to have it appear......:)
I always rather liked her and thought that if it came down to it she'd be on Harry's side. Yes she likes rules and such, but she isn't the type of person to burry her head in the sand unlike others.
 
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