[Comic] Miscellaneous Ideas Topic

[Cheifhotrod]

Miscellaneous Ideas Topic

An idea that came to after reading the latest Things Marvel Characters Are Not Allowed To Do and Shinji and PenPen's Big Adventure by Innortal.

In the spider-man comics, during Aunt May's wedding to J. Jonah Jameson, Sr. Peter got drunk for what I think is the first time in his life. Well what crazy and insane things could he done after the wedding and before he wake up the next day?

 

[zeebee1]

Miscellaneous Ideas Topic

Well, depending on how much duct tape he has on hand he could take over the world.

 

[nick012000]

Miscellaneous Ideas Topic

Idea: Agatha Heterodyne winds up in Skyrim, just in time to be picked up by the wagon carrying Ulfric Stormcloak to his execution. It turns out that the Heterodyne Hum is just another form of the Voice.

Hilarity ensues.

 

[Lord of Bones]

Miscellaneous Ideas Topic

Random idea: the Marvel and DC universes get thrown together. Not fused, like Amalgam, just thrown together so all the DC heroes and Marvel heroes are in the same universe, and all the DC civilians and Marvel civilians are as well.

Hilarity ensues when the DC people form a pro-Mutant organisation, and the Marvel people try to force the DC heroes to join their slave-soldier Registration scheme.

Mephisto and his fellow demons find their realms are now part of Hell, and demons laugh at the posers who think they're equals to the Devil. All are summarily kicked out when Lucifer abdicates.

Then they find themselves answering to the Silver City.

Also, Mary Jane Watson-Parker finds out that superheroes being married to normal civilians is par for the course.

 

[nick012000]

Miscellaneous Ideas Topic

Random idea: the Marvel and DC universes get thrown together. Not fused, like Amalgam, just thrown together so all the DC heroes and Marvel heroes are in the same universe, and all the DC civilians and Marvel civilians are as well.

Hilarity ensues when the DC people form a pro-Mutant organisation, and the Marvel people try to force the DC heroes to join their slave-soldier Registration scheme.

Mephisto and his fellow demons find their realms are now part of Hell, and demons laugh at the posers who think they're equals to the Devil. All are summarily kicked out when Lucifer abdicates.

Then they find themselves answering to the Silver City.

Also, Mary Jane Watson-Parker finds out that superheroes being married to normal civilians is par for the course.

Well, IIRC, hasn't there been a succession of demons ruling the DC Hell? I'm pretty sure that at least of of them was a villain from back when Superman was made of lightning, and the Justice League had an angel on the team.

As for married superheroes, the only ones I can think of off of the top of my head are the Flashes and their extended family, and maybe Superman and Lois Lane; I can't remember what their relationship is like in the current continuity.

 

[zeebee1]

Miscellaneous Ideas Topic

As far as DC's underworld goes it depends on if Vertigo Comics is involved.

 

[Lord of Bones]

Miscellaneous Ideas Topic

Random idea: the Marvel and DC universes get thrown together. Not fused, like Amalgam, just thrown together so all the DC heroes and Marvel heroes are in the same universe, and all the DC civilians and Marvel civilians are as well.

Hilarity ensues when the DC people form a pro-Mutant organisation, and the Marvel people try to force the DC heroes to join their slave-soldier Registration scheme.

Mephisto and his fellow demons find their realms are now part of Hell, and demons laugh at the posers who think they're equals to the Devil. All are summarily kicked out when Lucifer abdicates.

Then they find themselves answering to the Silver City.

Also, Mary Jane Watson-Parker finds out that superheroes being married to normal civilians is par for the course.

Well, IIRC, hasn't there been a succession of demons ruling the DC Hell? I'm pretty sure that at least of of them was a villain from back when Superman was made of lightning, and the Justice League had an angel on the team.

As for married superheroes, the only ones I can think of off of the top of my head are the Flashes and their extended family, and maybe Superman and Lois Lane; I can't remember what their relationship is like in the current continuity.

Without considering the new continuity, we know that Dream did recruit Martian Manhunter to get one of his artifacts in the same issue he descended into the Pit to regain his helm. We also know that the first Despair was responsible for Krypton's destruction.

Since Lucifer makes an appearance there, and again during Dream's funeral (in the same issue, Superman and Batman are present for the funeral), it's probably a good guess that Lucifer was the original Lord of Hell, and he abdicated because he was sick of being part of Yahweh's Plan.

Incidentally Etrigan also makes an appearance, IIRC he leads Dream to Lucifer's palace. Lucifer later mocks Etrigan's attempt to conquer Hell, and tells Dream he could have easily obliterated every inhabitant of the Pit, but he simply didn't care enough to do so.

That said, the Marvel deities meeting their DC counterparts would be amusing; if only for DC and Marvel Loki to come face to face.

"I am the mother to OdinÆs stallion, Sleipnir. I am the father of Fenrir sun-eater and of Hel half-rotted and of Jormungund the world-serpent. I am Loki Scar-Lip, Loki Skywalker, Loki GiantÆs Child, Loki Lie-Smith. I am Loki, who is fire and wit and hate. I am Loki. And I will be under an obligation to no one."

I'm also imagining Spidey's reaction to a world that would actually like him, or where mutants would just get a shrug.

 

[Prince Charon]

Miscellaneous Ideas Topic

Hank Pym is about to experience a comic-book death at an inopportune moment, when a device that only someone with his skills and shrinking powers can disable, must be disabled - and he'll be dead before he can accomplish it.

Fortunately, as we learned when he was calling himself Wasp (Janet was dead at the time, and yes, people noted that this was not a healthy coping mechanism) and leading the Mighty Avengers, he seriously carries mind-transfer equipment with him in shrunken form (we don't know how long it took, but he used it to put Quicksilver's mind back where it belonged (in Mighty Avengers #23, IIRC). In this case, he neither needs nor particularly wants to perform a full transfer, he just needs to pass his scientific and technical skills to Cassie Lang, the only other size-changer in the area (maybe it's before the Mighty Avengers broke up (which will have interesting effects on that storyline), or maybe it's some later event where they teamed up again), without inflicting the rest of his mind on her.

It works, she saves the world, but that sort of messing about with the mind is never perfect, especially when you're putting the knowledge and skills of one of the top ten smartest people on Marvel Earth into the brain of a girl with a fairly normal intellect.

Also, the filtering process, only theoretical until he used it, didn't so much not transfer the rest of his mind, as push it into Cassie's subconscious, thus giving her all manner of issues, particularly when she meets Janet, again. The memories may or may not prove the key to bringing Hank back.

So, thoughts?

 

[Prince Charon]

RE: Miscellaneous Ideas Topic

Crossover idea, inspired by the emotional associations of certain beings. Too tired right now to do more than one, but you should easily figure out the rest from context:

"Tzeench of the Warp, you have the ability to instill great Hope. Welcome to the Blue Lantern Corps."

 

[zeebee1]

RE: Miscellaneous Ideas Topic

Unless he finds a Green Lantern who wants to work with him it would change nothing.

 

[nixofcyzerra]

RE: Miscellaneous Ideas Topic

Unless he finds a Green Lantern who wants to work with him it would change nothing.

It's friggin Tzeench. Do you really think that's going to be much of a problem for him?

 

[zeebee1]

RE: Miscellaneous Ideas Topic

If he wants a power up it will.

 

[Prince Charon]

RE: Miscellaneous Ideas Topic

If he wants a power up it will.

I think he/she means that Tzeench is good at talking people into things. Even very strong-willed, intelligent people.

 

[nixofcyzerra]

RE: Miscellaneous Ideas Topic

So I was reading Spidey's Life is a Game!, which I found quite entertaining as long as you ignore the Author Avatar Inter-dimensional parts, and I was intrigued by an aspect of Spidey's powers, that I found both amusing, and supported by canon.

During "The Other," Spiderman developed new powers that he apparently could have had all along if he hadn't suppressed them. Furthermore, at the end of Spider-Island Kaine displayed the "Stingers" first seen in "The Other," and in the new Scarlet Spider series, has also died and come back with (apparently temporary) new powers due to "embracing the other."

Post "The Other" , an antagonist called Ero, with the alter-ego of Miss Arrow was introduced. She had powers similar to Spiderman, claimed that her versions of some of the powers they both possessed were superior to his, and had other powers Peter didn't. However, it was somewhat implied throughout the arc that Peter could do most, if not all, of what she can do if he completely embraced his Spider-side. Part of Ero's power set was apparently the ability to absorb... Tantric Energy. She wanted to use Flash Thompson as a baby daddy, because he has been in a coma for months, and the fact he hasn't 'had his oats' in all that time meant that he had built up a tremendous amount of tantric energy. This translates into more offspring for her.

So it's apparently half-way to canonical that Spider-powered individuals can develop the ability to become stronger or increase their powers, either by having sex, or having a long "dry spell."

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Spiderman/40 days and 40 nights crossover?

 

[Emerald Oracle]

RE: Miscellaneous Ideas Topic

I think for that tantric thing to work she had to go Black Widow on him, the arachnid not the superhero, as in it'd be bye by Flash if it happened.

 

[bissek]

In the very first Superman comic ever written, the Man of Steel saves a man from a lynch mob. The man then tells him that he was attacked because of his suspected connection with a murder, and that an innocent woman will be going to the chair over that murder that very night. Superman tracks down the real killer, forces her to write a confession, breaks into the governor's mansion, shows him the confession, gets him to pardon the innocent woman, drops off the real killer and leaves.

A great story, right? But there's one problem. Superman had no proof of the innocence of the woman he saved and the guilt of the woman he forced to write a confession other than the unsubstantiated word of a man he saved from a lynch mob. What if that man had been lying?

 

[Ordo]

Superman would've known due to being able to hear the mans heartbeat. At least that's what I'm sure the writers would tell you.

 

[bissek]

This was Golden Age Superman. He didn't have superhearing beyond being able to clearly hear conversations in the next room. At that point his powers were limited to strength, speed, invulnerability (Not to the extremes shown later, a big enough explosion could hurt him), being immune to most poisons (Because they were incompatible with Kryptonian biology) and being able to jump a furlong.

Besides, a man who'd just escaped a lynching would be so stressed his pulse and breathing would be as far from a stable baseline for a lie detector as you can get.

Golden Age Superman wasn't exactly a paragon of virtue. Other dubiously moral things that he did include:
Stalking an arms dealer and coercing him to serve in a war he supplied munitions for.
Breaking into a military camp to take pictures so that Clark Kent could sell a story to the papers.
Kidnapping enemy generals to try to get the war to end sooner.
Cheating at professional boxing
Cheating at college football
Deliberately burying a mine owner alive to demonstrate the working conditions his employees have to work in.
Ending a second war by telling the people at the peace conference that he'd kill all of them if they didn't sign a treaty - without having any knowledge of what the war was about or whether the draft treaty currently on the table actually solved any of the underlying issues.
Investigating possible fraud by forcibly breaking into various locations and stealing the record books so he could compare them for graft.

All this, mind you, was in the first FOUR ISSUES.

 

[Deleted member 5249]

Runaways/Exiles

Teen Exile

When attacked by the Gibborim, Alex Wilder didn't go to Heaven. He didn't even go to hell, since that night his soul and body has been trapped in a limbo dimension where he can watch Nico and his friends. And when the barrier is really weak, he can even whisper in their ears here and there.

And he has mostly gotten used to it.

Until one day he hears a voice.

"Alex Wilder, you have been unhinged from time."

The next thing he knows he's in a bright pink crystal castle. A pale mutant named Morph explains to him, the multiverse is in shambles and he has been chosen to repair it with the promise of being returned back to their planet after they complete enough missions. His team assorted teens from across the Multiverse including Ahura Boltagon, Dagger, Mayday Parker and more mutants than Alex cares to count.

Alex, was willing to damn the planet earth to protect his family.

He's definitely willing to protect the whole multiverse if he can see what remains of it again.

 

[Fellgrave]

>.>

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Wilson Fisk and Monte Fisk(e optional) are brothers.

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*griiiiins*

 

[Emerald Oracle]

Hm, well the last group of transtemporal fixers was only recently decomissioned, but they were more freelance, operating with the help of a Floating Xavier head as opposed to a timebroker at the Crystal Castle. The castle itself tends to spawn Timebrokers if I remember right. I woudl hope that this idea allows space for at least one mentor sort, namely Governor-General James Howlett of her Majesty's Dominion of Canada, because frankly he's awesome.

 

[nixofcyzerra]

New Idea.

Bruce Wayne, born to the well-known philanthropists Thomas and Martha Wayne, of the Wayne District on Coruscant, is tragically orphaned while returning home from watching Gar-Jen vs. Gargantua.

 

[Deleted member 5249]

Driven insane from the Power of the life force, Wanda was granted the ability to see past the fourth wall.

And uttered the three words that would change the very history of the Marvel universe forever.

"No More Retcons."

And every retcon in 616's history was erased. Of the top of my head amongst the changes were, her children weren't demons, no Dissembled, no Darker than Scarlet, No M-Day. May wasn't replaced with a look a like and died so no One More Day, Jean died as Phoenix and Madelyne Pryor was just a normal woman whom Scott married and lived happily ever after with in Alaska. Magneto only had his deceased daughter Anya and no other children so he'd cling on to the young mutants as surrogates. Gwen did not have sex with Norman.

Got any other Retcons that would be wiped away and the effects they'd have on the MCU?

 

[ankokudaishogun]

define "retcon". Technically, EVERYTHING revealing something wasn't as portrayed at first is a retcon. Which means... most stories ever.
Also, most people stay dead, but even when Thanos did that to keep the universe together it didn't stick

 

[Deleted member 5249]

I guess I would define it as poorly thought change that goes against everything that`s been revealed so far.

Madelyne spent arcs showing she was not a Jean replacement and then poof they made her a literal Jean replacement when they made her a literal Jean clone. And things like Jean`s healing cocoon.