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Lord Raine

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#26
Ordo said:
It would appear that 'Dark Horse Comics' will be covering the order of the Jedi in a new Comic Series entitled <a href='http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Dawn_of_the_Jedi' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Dawn of the Jedi.</a> This is a time before lightsabers, before the polarization of Light and Dark when the order was young and located on Tython.



...and so it begins...

Dawn Era Force users can only mean one thing.

Jedi. With. Katanas.

Take my money.
 
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#27
Python453 said:
LightningHunter said:
<a href='http://marvel.com/news/story/17810/avengers_vs_x-men' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>...I'm seriously, that's what it's about. The event itself is called Avengers VS X-Men.</a>
Huh?

What is this, I don't even...

How did this thought even come about? The Phoenix Force is heading to Earth, and that somehow leads to a fight between the X-Men and The Avengers?

Were they drunk or something? Marvel, why do you like trolling your fans so much?
Didn't the Avengers fight the X-men just the other day in Children's Crusade (their other huge event)while they were protecting Wanda? Why does their need to be a big event about them fighting each other? It's not like it'll bring Jean back.
 
#29
Didn't Beast just join Wolverine's new X-Men team?

Seiya said:
Didn't the Avengers fight the X-men just the other day in Children's Crusade (their other huge event)while they were protecting Wanda? Why does their need to be a big event about them fighting each other? It's not like it'll bring Jean back.
Well. Probably will, actually.
 

TC_Hazard

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#30
LightningHunter said:
Didn't Beast just join Wolverine's new X-Men team?

Seiya said:
Didn't the Avengers fight the X-men just the other day in Children's Crusade (their other huge event)while they were protecting Wanda? Why does their need to be a big event about them fighting each other? It's not like it'll bring Jean back.
Well. Probably will, actually.
Yeah, Beast is in Wolverine's school.

Honestly, Beast will probably be in whatever team Cyclops is against just because.
 

Prince Charon

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#31
LightningHunter said:
Huh, surprised this hasn't been posted yet.

Marvel have come up with their next massive event, which must've been pitched as "er, let's get all the Avengers, and let's get all the X-Men, and make them fight each other", something that probably took what, ten seconds to be thought of?

<a href='http://marvel.com/news/story/17810/avengers_vs_x-men' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>...I'm seriously, that's what it's about. The event itself is called Avengers VS X-Men.</a>
The article says they're proud to announce it. That may be the saddest thing of all.
 

Python453

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#32
Prince Charon said:
The article says they're proud to announce it. That may be the saddest thing of all.
It wouldn't be so bad if they at least explainned it more. Tell us why the X-Men and the Avengers are going to fight; don't just say "UH, DERP THE PHOENIX FORCE IS COMING TO EARTH, SO OBVIOUSLY THE X-MEN AND AVENGERS ARE GONNA FIGHT. HERP DERP."

It just sounds like such an asspull. Granted, this is Marvel, but still...
 
#33
Python453 said:
Prince Charon said:
The article says they're proud to announce it.? That may be the saddest thing of all.
It wouldn't be so bad if they at least explainned it more. Tell us why the X-Men and the Avengers are going to fight; don't just say "UH, DERP THE PHOENIX FORCE IS COMING TO EARTH, SO OBVIOUSLY THE X-MEN AND AVENGERS ARE GONNA FIGHT. HERP DERP."

It just sounds like such an asspull. Granted, this is Marvel, but still...
Not quite, they're actually making why they're fighting into what seems to be one of the main questions behind it...

"But what is the shocking decision tied to the PhoenixÆs return that will pit the Avengers against the X-Men?"

Oh Christ, I hope the Phoenix isn't going to blow up a school in the first issue.
 

pacifist

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#34
Wouldn't be bad if you could expect some lasting character death. Thing I can't understand is why they're trying to make a big thing about this. Isn't punching each other in the face how superheroes say hello?
 

zeebee1

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#35
This is the Phoenix Force. It doesn't do lasting death.
 

goldenarms

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#36
pacifist said:
Wouldn't be bad if you could expect some lasting character death. Thing I can't understand is why they're trying to make a big thing about this. Isn't punching each other in the face how superheroes say hello?
Classic superhero teams duking it out. Though, it could be a catalyst to something even larger.

Huh. Now I'm wondering if Marvel will do a full-on reboot like DC has, because I've not a damn clue what's going on there anymore. At some point, I read "Colossus possesses the Gem of Cyttorak" and my eyes crossed over.
 

zeebee1

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#37
What's the point? Everything Colossus can do is done better by the Juggernaut. They didn't even expand what he could do, they just enhanced his power while giving him red armor.
 

pacifist

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#38
Making the Ultimate universe was a reboot. It simply didn't piss off fans because they left the main universe intact when they did it.

As to Colossus he's a tank give the Gem to any other non tank character and they're overpowered as hell.
 

zeebee1

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#39
Becoming the next Juggernaut makes you overpowered. The thing about Cain is that he has no idea what he can do and doesn't want to experiment. Flight and energy blasts should be simple enough.

I think a kid once got the gem and ended up hacking through computers that weren't even plugged in. This is the power of a god as wielded by a human. Becoming a tank shouldn't be the only way to use it.
 

Lord Raine

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#40
zeebee1 said:
Becoming the next Juggernaut makes you overpowered. The thing about Cain is that he has no idea what he can do and doesn't want to experiment. Flight and energy blasts should be simple enough.

I think a kid once got the gem and ended up hacking through computers that weren't even plugged in. This is the power of a god as wielded by a human. Becoming a tank shouldn't be the only way to use it.
Then gem is about two and a half steps under the freaking Infinity Gauntlet. The Gauntlet makes you a literal writer in a series that you are writing. The gem just allows you to tap a technically infinite well of power and mold it however you see fit.

Give it to someone who has more than manure between their ears, and watch the galaxy kneel before it's new Supreme Everking.


Marvel isn't tapped for ideas. They're just shit at coming up with them. Have somebody open Pandora's Box, unleashing High Magic on the Marvel Universe. Dragons, elves, fairies, dwarves, sword and sorcery. But then you add in shit like guns and modern military and the X-Men and Tony Stark, and shit just gets ridiculous.

I just invented that. Just now. Pulled it clear out my ass. Wham, bam, thank you mam.

Here's another. Some random plot device throws Earth forwards in time by X amount, depositing it in a highly advanced science-fiction future dominated by alien confederations and empires. On the one hand, we're potentially thousands of years behind everyone else in the universe. On the other hand, we have all the super heroes and plot devices.

Can we go home? Should we go back even if we can find a way? Is humanity better off existing in this far-distant future, filled with technological wonders, moral ambiguity brought about by incredible science, and interstellar wars that shake the stars? Who will ally themselves with humanity, and why? What makes this galaxy of the future tick? How many technicolor space bitches must kick Scott in the balls before we're all satisfied (answer: all of them + 1)?

You line 'em up, I'll knock 'em down. I can do this all day. God, has Marvel replaced their writers with a bunch of chimps or something?
 
#41


This seems accurate. The whole thing is, comic fans are afraid of change. Introduce a new hero? Mary Sue!

New Villain? Where's the history? If this guy is so super badass, how come we've never heard of him?
 

Lord Raine

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#42
New Villain? Where's the history? If this guy is so super badass, how come we've never heard of him?
Time and/or dimension travel. Have an evil empire that conquers dimensions come out of fucknowhere and start attacking everything. They have the justification, the motive, the means, and the resources to make it happen. The only thing that gives the Marvel dimension a fighting chance is the absurdly high ratio of superpowered individuals, which may or may not have been a deliberate gambit on the part of the Celestials, who may have already been conquered eons ago by this empire, and as their final act before total annihilation, reached out across worlds and dimensions to imbue humanity with the powers they would need to defend themselves from the Empire when it eventually came knocking at their door.

Or maybe the New Villain is a super badass precisely because no one has ever heard of him before. He's been there the entire time in the shadows, like if Aizen was a ninja. Pin the blame of a few more tragic canon events on him, like the death of Gwen Stacy, to make it personal and cement the fact that this guy is evil and does not give a fuck. He will kill random loved ones of superheroes and make it look like an accident if you cross him. Maybe that's why Gwen died. She stumbled onto something that might reveal him to the world, she was going to tell Peter about it because he's a reporter for the Bugle, and so the guy manipulated the Goblin into taking her out.

Just about any disaster or tragic canon death can be attributed to "we almost found the guy by accident, but he ruthlessly covered his own ass by eliminating the loose ends," even if those loose ends were cherished loved ones, entire cities, or the very memories in the heads of the heroes and villains he was manipulating.
 

goldenarms

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#43
A Curious Stranger said:
This seems accurate. The whole thing is, comic fans are afraid of change. Introduce a new hero? Mary Sue!
I think it's more about the fact that everyone wants to make money and no one wants to try and step out of the box for fear there will be no money in it.

Problem with ideas -- you can't tell what's a good idea or bad idea until you execute it. Even the stupidest-sounding ideas can secure the future of your grandchildren's grandchildren, while the smartest can bankrupt your entire company twenty times over.
 

Lord Raine

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#44
goldenarms said:
A Curious Stranger said:
This seems accurate. The whole thing is, comic fans are afraid of change. Introduce a new hero? Mary Sue!
I think it's more about the fact that everyone wants to make money and no one wants to try and step out of the box for fear there will be no money in it.

Problem with ideas -- you can't tell what's a good idea or bad idea until you execute it. Even the stupidest-sounding ideas can secure the future of your grandchildren's grandchildren, while the smartest can bankrupt your entire company twenty times over.
That's a shockingly shitty excuse when there are literal continuity reset buttons built into the verses. For fuck's sake, they once made a run where everyone was a pirate. Don't pretend that they're doing it because they're somehow afraid of losing money. That's not the reason.
 
#45
Lord Raine said:
Or maybe the New Villain is a super badass precisely because no one has ever heard of him before. He's been there the entire time in the shadows, like if Aizen was a ninja. Pin the blame of a few more tragic canon events on him, like the death of Gwen Stacy, to make it personal and cement the fact that this guy is evil and does not give a fuck. He will kill random loved ones of superheroes and make it look like an accident if you cross him. Maybe that's why Gwen died. She stumbled onto something that might reveal him to the world, she was going to tell Peter about it because he's a reporter for the Bugle, and so the guy manipulated the Goblin into taking her out.

Just about any disaster or tragic canon death can be attributed to "we almost found the guy by accident, but he ruthlessly covered his own ass by eliminating the loose ends," even if those loose ends were cherished loved ones, entire cities, or the very memories in the heads of the heroes and villains he was manipulating.
Raine, you came very close to describing one of the villain's in Morrison's run on Batman (and a similar villain Snyder's currently writing about). :snigger:
 

Hashasheen

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#46
LightningHunter said:
Lord Raine said:
Or maybe the New Villain is a super badass precisely because no one has ever heard of him before. He's been there the entire time in the shadows, like if Aizen was a ninja. Pin the blame of a few more tragic canon events on him, like the death of Gwen Stacy, to make it personal and cement the fact that this guy is evil and does not give a fuck. He will kill random loved ones of superheroes and make it look like an accident if you cross him. Maybe that's why Gwen died. She stumbled onto something that might reveal him to the world, she was going to tell Peter about it because he's a reporter for the Bugle, and so the guy manipulated the Goblin into taking her out.

Just about any disaster or tragic canon death can be attributed to "we almost found the guy by accident, but he ruthlessly covered his own ass by eliminating the loose ends," even if those loose ends were cherished loved ones, entire cities, or the very memories in the heads of the heroes and villains he was manipulating.
Raine, you came very close to describing one of the villain's in Morrison's run on Batman (and a similar villain Snyder's currently writing about). :snigger:
Court of Owls! :lol:

Has to be the coolest Batman enemy in years. Keep finding myself wondering what Owlman has to do with it, though.
 
#47
Hashasheen said:
LightningHunter said:
Lord Raine said:
Or maybe the New Villain is a super badass precisely because no one has ever heard of him before. He's been there the entire time in the shadows, like if Aizen was a ninja. Pin the blame of a few more tragic canon events on him, like the death of Gwen Stacy, to make it personal and cement the fact that this guy is evil and does not give a fuck. He will kill random loved ones of superheroes and make it look like an accident if you cross him. Maybe that's why Gwen died. She stumbled onto something that might reveal him to the world, she was going to tell Peter about it because he's a reporter for the Bugle, and so the guy manipulated the Goblin into taking her out.

Just about any disaster or tragic canon death can be attributed to "we almost found the guy by accident, but he ruthlessly covered his own ass by eliminating the loose ends," even if those loose ends were cherished loved ones, entire cities, or the very memories in the heads of the heroes and villains he was manipulating.
Raine, you came very close to describing one of the villain's in Morrison's run on Batman (and a similar villain Snyder's currently writing about). :snigger:
Court of Owls! :lol:

Has to be the coolest Batman enemy in years. Keep finding myself wondering what Owlman has to do with it, though.
Court of Owls is looking pretty cool I admit, but Black Mirror made me almost wretch. Jim Gordon's son as a psycopath when the guy barely even exists in continuity. Urgh. I'm pretty sure Snyder did it because he knew most of his Batman stuff was going to be retconned out anyway.
 
#48
A Curious Stranger said:
Court of Owls is looking pretty cool I admit, but Black Mirror made me almost wretch. Jim Gordon's son as a psycopath when the guy barely even exists in continuity. Urgh. I'm pretty sure Snyder did it because he knew most of his Batman stuff was going to be retconned out anyway.
It hasn't been retconned out. It's still part of continuity, judging by how most of the recent Batman stories are still in and also due to a comment by Barbara in Batgirl #4.

And the general consensus is that Black Mirror was a great story, and I'm inclined to agree.
 
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#49
Prince Charon said:
LightningHunter said:
Huh, surprised this hasn't been posted yet.

Marvel have come up with their next massive event, which must've been pitched as "er, let's get all the Avengers, and let's get all the X-Men, and make them fight each other", something that probably took what, ten seconds to be thought of?

<a href='http://marvel.com/news/story/17810/avengers_vs_x-men' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>...I'm seriously, that's what it's about. The event itself is called Avengers VS X-Men.</a>
The article says they're proud to announce it. That may be the saddest thing of all.

This March, fans worldwide cannot miss the prologue to the biggest pop culture comic event of the year as Marvel is pleased to unveil the trade dress and cover to Avengers VS. X-Men #0! Just before the Avengers and the X-Men go head to head, superstar creators Brian Michael Bendis, Jason Aaron & Frank Cho set up the crucial roles of the Scarlet Witch and Hope Summers in the coming storm. With all eyes on Wanda and the Mutant Messiah, both sides have already made up their mind on where allegiances SHOULD lie àbut what about those caught in the middle? The drums of war are beating and fans should be ready for the essential opening to the event that will change everything you know about the Marvel Universe in Avengers VS. X-Men #0!
Why is Bendis allowed to be near Scarlet Witch after all he did to her?

*Seiya?hopes ScarletDoom will continue after Children's Crusade.
 

Ordo

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#50
Further pics related to 'Dawn of The Jedi'



 
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