Commander Shepard: Soldier, Spark, Spectre

shinzero01

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#27
blackkyuubi said:
The Yahg ATE the diplomats and what do you mean by two Rachni?
Theres the one you find on Noveria and then those others that Cerberus somehow had, which could have been from the one on Noveria but theres also ME3 picture of what I think is either a Rachni Husk or a Rachni wearing some kind of armor.
 

GenocideHeart

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#28
Watashiwa said:
What. Moridin isn't human. Sparks are.

Moridin is a Salarian genius, which makes him about as intelligent as a Spark, but less able to warp the fabric of reality by wanting to hard enough.
Klaus is implied to be a construct, and constructs only LOOK human, without actually BEING one. So I'd say there's leeway for aliens to be Sparks.

ESPECIALLY since Mordin is completely insane even by SALARIAN standards. Compare him to every other Salarian in the game, see yourself.
 

shinzero01

Well-Known Member
#29
GenocideHeart said:
Watashiwa said:
What. Moridin isn't human.? Sparks are.

Moridin is a Salarian genius, which makes him about as intelligent as a Spark, but less able to warp the fabric of reality by wanting to hard enough.
Klaus is implied to be a construct, and constructs only LOOK human, without actually BEING one. So I'd say there's leeway for aliens to be Sparks.

ESPECIALLY since Mordin is completely insane even by SALARIAN standards. Compare him to every other Salarian in the game, see yourself.
Questionable.
Mordin is odd in the mad scientist way, but then theres that whole league of Salarian super agents. Mordin is just the first really important Salarian we see more of than a single mission. Granted, every one of the ME2 characters seems to be the best that their faction/race can offer. The Mass Effect comic had one Salarian that looked like he could win a hand to hand fight with two Krogans at the same time. Feron really didn't want to mess with him either but played decoy.

Mordin does have a unique view of things though. Perfectly willing to kill/commit genocide/be a mad scientist as long as it is done ethically and logically.
 
#30
shinzero01 said:
GenocideHeart said:
Watashiwa said:
What. Moridin isn't human.á Sparks are.

Moridin is a Salarian genius, which makes him about as intelligent as a Spark, but less able to warp the fabric of reality by wanting to hard enough.
Klaus is implied to be a construct, and constructs only LOOK human, without actually BEING one. So I'd say there's leeway for aliens to be Sparks.

ESPECIALLY since Mordin is completely insane even by SALARIAN standards. Compare him to every other Salarian in the game, see yourself.
Questionable.
Mordin is odd in the mad scientist way, but then theres that whole league of Salarian super agents. Mordin is just the first really important Salarian we see more of than a single mission. Granted, every one of the ME2 characters seems to be the best that their faction/race can offer. The Mass Effect comic had one Salarian that looked like he could win a hand to hand fight with two Krogans at the same time. Feron really didn't want to mess with him either but played decoy.

Mordin does have a unique view of things though. Perfectly willing to kill/commit genocide/be a mad scientist as long as it is done ethically and logically.
Which, basically, is what an Inquisitor should strive to be.

Yes, Mordin would make a great Inquisitor.
 

Deathwings

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#31
GenocideHeart said:
Watashiwa said:
What. Moridin isn't human.? Sparks are.

Moridin is a Salarian genius, which makes him about as intelligent as a Spark, but less able to warp the fabric of reality by wanting to hard enough.
Klaus is implied to be a construct, and constructs only LOOK human, without actually BEING one. So I'd say there's leeway for aliens to be Sparks.

ESPECIALLY since Mordin is completely insane even by SALARIAN standards. Compare him to every other Salarian in the game, see yourself.
A construct made out of the remains of three humans.
 

GenocideHeart

Well-Known Member
#32
Deathwings said:
GenocideHeart said:
Watashiwa said:
What. Moridin isn't human.á Sparks are.

Moridin is a Salarian genius, which makes him about as intelligent as a Spark, but less able to warp the fabric of reality by wanting to hard enough.
Klaus is implied to be a construct, and constructs only LOOK human, without actually BEING one. So I'd say there's leeway for aliens to be Sparks.

ESPECIALLY since Mordin is completely insane even by SALARIAN standards. Compare him to every other Salarian in the game, see yourself.
A construct made out of the remains of three humans.
Keyword being 'remains'. Klaus is functionally a cyberzombie, not a human.

So is Shepard, in fact - and if a rebuilt Shepard who is, at that point, made more of Reaper tech than of human stuff, can be considered human, then the definition of human is loose enough that it doesn't matter.
 

Deathwings

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#33
Actually, didn't Klaus studies imply that the whole Spark thing is related top thehuman brain structure ? If that is actually the case and he was right, then wouldn't a different, alien brain structure make becoming a Spark impossible ? :huh:
 

GenocideHeart

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#34
Deathwings said:
Actually, didn't Klaus studies imply that the whole Spark thing is related top thehuman brain structure ? If that is actually the case and he was right, then wouldn't a different, alien brain structure make becoming a Spark impossible ? :huh:
Klaus only confirmed taht Sparkyness is related to the brain in some way, but he's not even sure if it's a matter of physical structure, chemical imbalance or whatever else - it's why he's still studying it instead of having figured it out.

All he knows is it's in the mind. HOW it pops out, however, he has no idea. Just as he has no idea whether it's human-only or not, but the latter is due to lack of subjects - there aren't any really nonhuman humanoid sentient races in GG, closest would be Jagermonsters and they are human-based since they are made from mixing human and beast DNA, if memory serves. If Klaus got his hands on genuine extra-terrestrial creatures, be they demons or aliens, he could conclusively figure at least that out, but as it is, he doesn't have any hard evidence for basically anything regarding Sparks.
 

Rahlian

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#35
I absolutely cannot get the image of an Otto!Jenkins out of my head. You can't hear me, but I am cackling maniacally here.
 

Lost Star

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#36
Actually, why not have Sparkyness as a product of both the mind and the body? Or rather, other races have sparks, but they are different than human sparks.

It would take a small bit of work, but I think it would balance out the 'humans are special' desire with the 'aliens are different' clause.

Plus you could have some hilarious encounters with other species and their quirks.
 

Cypher3au

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#37
Lost Star said:
Actually, why not have Sparkyness as a product of both the mind and the body?á Or rather, other races have sparks, but they are different than human sparks.

It would take a small bit of work, but I think it would balance out the 'humans are special' desire with the 'aliens are different' clause.

Plus you could have some hilarious encounters with other species and their quirks.
...well, if there is such a thing as a Turian Spark, I think this chap here is one of them; <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWYUiVfZo9k' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWYUiVfZo9k</a>
 

kelenas

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#39
GenocideHeart said:
Just as he has no idea whether it's human-only or not, but the latter is due to lack of subjects - there aren't any really nonhuman humanoid sentient races in GG, closest would be Jagermonsters and they are human-based since they are made from mixing human and beast DNA, if memory serves.
No beast DNA involved; Jõgermonsters are/were normal humans who drank the Jaegerdraught, for which water from the Dyne river/spring is one of the key ingredients. They're definitely still human enough to produce normal human offspring with non-Jõgers, as seen with one of "Da Boyz" (the three Jõgers following Agatha).

- Kelenas
 

GenocideHeart

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#40
kelenas said:
GenocideHeart said:
Just as he has no idea whether it's human-only or not, but the latter is due to lack of subjects - there aren't any really nonhuman humanoid sentient races in GG, closest would be Jagermonsters and they are human-based since they are made from mixing human and beast DNA, if memory serves.
No beast DNA involved; Jõgermonsters are/were normal humans who drank the Jaegerdraught, for which water from the Dyne river/spring is one of the key ingredients. They're definitely still human enough to produce normal human offspring with non-Jõgers, as seen with one of "Da Boyz" (the three Jõgers following Agatha).

- Kelenas
While they can produce human offspring, I'd hold off on the 'normal' part until I see more of them if I were you. Girl Genius has a precious shortage of NORMAL (snerk) people. For all we know, they will turn out to be like Higgs.
 

mandalorianjedi

The Original M2J
#42
I don't mean to Necro, but this story concept has definitively caught my eye. Unfortunately, I don't know anything about Girl Genius- but I'd like to.

Links to where I could find it?
 

Deathwings

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#43
<a href='http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Here.</a>
 
#45
I'm going to have nightmares about the possibility of a Krogan drinking the Jaegerdraught now.
 
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