Damn You Kishimoto !!!!!
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Vassago probably said it best. Say what you want the same way the writer does what he wants. Sure. People don't make money off fanfiction. It's something writers do for fun. It is perfectly acceptable for someone to just straight up give up on no matter the reason but I do consider it bad taste if said reason is cheap.
The writer doesn't owe the fans anything and vice versa but, at the very least, don't alienate the people that read your stories. It's solely up to the writer to give up. That's cool but all I hope is that he or she is at least reasonable about it. Pulling the equivalent of "no more of this kthankbye" on a a story will make me lose respect for the writer regardless of who he or she is. I mean, if you're going to stop the trip, offer the people that went with you a proper farewell since you're not going to go all the way.
The writer doesn't owe the fans anything and vice versa but, at the very least, don't alienate the people that read your stories. It's solely up to the writer to give up. That's cool but all I hope is that he or she is at least reasonable about it. Pulling the equivalent of "no more of this kthankbye" on a a story will make me lose respect for the writer regardless of who he or she is. I mean, if you're going to stop the trip, offer the people that went with you a proper farewell since you're not going to go all the way.
You misunderstood me... or maybe I didn't express myself clearly enough. No wait, I definitely didn't say what I meant. The main reason to write fanfiction isn't hatred, but dissatisfaction. If a story is perfect, there is no reason to even contemplate changing it. You get what I mean?
I said what I said on the basis on the improbability of truly hating something that you once loved. It's not like part 1 has changed since he read it...
I never said anyone should think like me. I just used myself as an example, because it's the only one I have. It may seem that I'm presenting myself as the paragon of all things fanfiction, but it really isn't like that. I'm arrogant (and offensive), so I can't help but express that whenever I'm left unchecked. Just ignore the subtle derision and concentrate on whatever's left. There may not be much.
Are you wrong? I never said that. Is it sad? I would say so and don't think I mean pitiful here. I'm honestly saddened by some authors' inability to ignore Part 2, thus the basis of my disappointment.
As I said, dissatisfaction is the basis of most fanfiction and different people can be dissatisfied by different things, but canon is more than just a series of events. It includes characters, abilities, personalities, etc. It's why I still consider Black Dragon's Ranma fics as fanfiction.
Of course we're not. And I never forgot anything. I just think it's sad that this was enough to kill his enjoyment.
I said what I said on the basis on the improbability of truly hating something that you once loved. It's not like part 1 has changed since he read it...
I never said anyone should think like me. I just used myself as an example, because it's the only one I have. It may seem that I'm presenting myself as the paragon of all things fanfiction, but it really isn't like that. I'm arrogant (and offensive), so I can't help but express that whenever I'm left unchecked. Just ignore the subtle derision and concentrate on whatever's left. There may not be much.
Are you wrong? I never said that. Is it sad? I would say so and don't think I mean pitiful here. I'm honestly saddened by some authors' inability to ignore Part 2, thus the basis of my disappointment.
As I said, dissatisfaction is the basis of most fanfiction and different people can be dissatisfied by different things, but canon is more than just a series of events. It includes characters, abilities, personalities, etc. It's why I still consider Black Dragon's Ranma fics as fanfiction.
Of course we're not. And I never forgot anything. I just think it's sad that this was enough to kill his enjoyment.
You need farewells from people you don't know?
Listen, I've was born into the "suck it up and deal" school of life. If you don't like his choice. If you feel fucking alienated by his abrupt way of stopping. Well, good for you. I don't need to hear about it. This thread should have gone.
1st: Hey _______ is gone
2nd: Fuck
3rd: Good Riddance
Maybe some banter on quality of the guy's fics...
DONE
Look, if you really have a burning desire to go and talk to _______. If you're going to just whine... well curl up in a dark closet and do it there.
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And irregardless to how you feel don't ever feel that the author should write for you.
Listen, I've was born into the "suck it up and deal" school of life. If you don't like his choice. If you feel fucking alienated by his abrupt way of stopping. Well, good for you. I don't need to hear about it. This thread should have gone.
1st: Hey _______ is gone
2nd: Fuck
3rd: Good Riddance
Maybe some banter on quality of the guy's fics...
DONE
Look, if you really have a burning desire to go and talk to _______. If you're going to just whine... well curl up in a dark closet and do it there.
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And irregardless to how you feel don't ever feel that the author should write for you.
The elitist comment comes from a general tendency I've noticed in this forum. It's not something caused by this topic alone, it's been going on a good long while now. There seems to be a marked ZOMG BETTERTHANU mentality creeping in the posters here (and I'd bet money that even I am not immune to it, but since my view is biased, I can't say for sure), and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
...does that date have any significance at all? :unsure:
Fair enough, but please do remember that conveying sarcasm through words on a forum is not a very easy thing to do, so there's bound to be misunderstandings.
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Maybe, but it'd sure make me queasy at the idea of eating THAT particular kind of stew again.
Pridefall wins the thread. That is all.
...does that date have any significance at all? :unsure:
Fair enough, but please do remember that conveying sarcasm through words on a forum is not a very easy thing to do, so there's bound to be misunderstandings.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Maybe, but it'd sure make me queasy at the idea of eating THAT particular kind of stew again.
Pridefall wins the thread. That is all.
I never said the guy or anyone for that matter should write for me. Regardless of that, how you treat the people that even bother to read or hopefully support your stuff is a pretty big issue to me. Alienate probably wasn't the right word but it is pretty disappointing regardless. I suppose its just unsettling because of the disconnect.
I think you misunderstood me. I don't need any tissue or anything and I'm not rolling around crying. The guy had his reasons and that's cool. I was just saying I wish he thought more about the people that actually liked his story.
It's not surprising the thread took a turn like this considering it isn't rare and I'm not even bitching. I'm the kind of guy that takes things in stride but I can't just let stuff like this slide without saying something about it. I know I'm not entitled to judge the guy or anything but I'll be damned if I can't say that I don't think it is cool to leave your fans, people that read your story, out in the cold just because. It's my opinion after all.
Shut up and deal with it? That's cool. Yeah. Believe that.
I think you misunderstood me. I don't need any tissue or anything and I'm not rolling around crying. The guy had his reasons and that's cool. I was just saying I wish he thought more about the people that actually liked his story.
It's not surprising the thread took a turn like this considering it isn't rare and I'm not even bitching. I'm the kind of guy that takes things in stride but I can't just let stuff like this slide without saying something about it. I know I'm not entitled to judge the guy or anything but I'll be damned if I can't say that I don't think it is cool to leave your fans, people that read your story, out in the cold just because. It's my opinion after all.
Shut up and deal with it? That's cool. Yeah. Believe that.
GenocideHeart said:
foesjoe said:
That's the day I registered here 
Now, Lord Raa's join date... :snigger: :snigger: :snigger:
h43r:Oh, it is. It is just that now the forum is being elitist towards others on the forum, I do think this forum always had an elitist air of "We have better authors" towards FFN.
EDIT: Though, seriously, why is this here? I don't mind bitching, I do a lot of it myself but why is it in the links section? If you put it in the discussion section or the Naruto talk section it would make more sense....
Back to the regularly scheduled arguments, flamewars and elitism /jk
EDIT: Though, seriously, why is this here? I don't mind bitching, I do a lot of it myself but why is it in the links section? If you put it in the discussion section or the Naruto talk section it would make more sense....
Back to the regularly scheduled arguments, flamewars and elitism /jk
Of course we do.
I once read a story on FF which had a summery saying "epic story and ablsolutely huge length."
Upon clicking in, the first chapter was 123 words, there were three more chapters, each getting progressively worse and smaller, and then the fifth was a abandonment note.
It's that kind of bullshit which makes us have that kind of attitude.
I once read a story on FF which had a summery saying "epic story and ablsolutely huge length."
Upon clicking in, the first chapter was 123 words, there were three more chapters, each getting progressively worse and smaller, and then the fifth was a abandonment note.
It's that kind of bullshit which makes us have that kind of attitude.
No, that would be crappy writer, FFN has a lot of those, but it is also a much larger community. However, most of those writers only write in certain sections, and there are some writers on FFN that I have never seen here that are as good as many of the active writers here. At least in my opinion.
My point being is that the elitist attitude isn't exactly all that warranted, yes we have writers that are pretty damn good, but we don't have a freakin' monopoly on good writers, nor does being a TFFer make you a good writer. While yes, there are many crappy stories that need to be gotten rid of, but that is always going to happen.
My point being is that the elitist attitude isn't exactly all that warranted, yes we have writers that are pretty damn good, but we don't have a freakin' monopoly on good writers, nor does being a TFFer make you a good writer. While yes, there are many crappy stories that need to be gotten rid of, but that is always going to happen.
No, it doesn't. However, I'm glad he doesn't have the Eternal Mangeky Sharingan (which would make him Immortal, something nobody needs), and that he can't activate the Mangeky Sharingan at will. As it stands right now, he's only got it to protect his God Eyes and keep him at the level of Super and not going beyond that.
I am, however, going to be severely pissed off if Sasuke can copy the Space/Time Techniques that Madara uses.
I am, however, going to be severely pissed off if Sasuke can copy the Space/Time Techniques that Madara uses.
Is this Internet Dollars we're talking about, or the 'I'm-going-to-have-to-mail-it-to-you' kind?
If it's the 'I'm-going-to-have-to-mail-it-to-you' kind, no thank you. If it's the Internet Dollars, then why not (besides it's most probable that I'm going to lose)?
Hopefully, my good Karma and Luck won't fail me now, and maybe I might contribute to keeping the manga at the level it is, and not any further.
If it's the 'I'm-going-to-have-to-mail-it-to-you' kind, no thank you. If it's the Internet Dollars, then why not (besides it's most probable that I'm going to lose)?
Hopefully, my good Karma and Luck won't fail me now, and maybe I might contribute to keeping the manga at the level it is, and not any further.
Ya know, I'm not really sure why people think you should still write faniction for something you hate.
Meh, the other reason for me not updating mine would be the 15k words I had on my hard drive that went by-by when it took a crap on me. Damn ADHD makes it hard for me to do crap like that.
At any rate my point is that whether or not he gave it, there probably is another reason for him abandoning PMN. He may just not feel like revealing to others.
Meh, the other reason for me not updating mine would be the 15k words I had on my hard drive that went by-by when it took a crap on me. Damn ADHD makes it hard for me to do crap like that.
At any rate my point is that whether or not he gave it, there probably is another reason for him abandoning PMN. He may just not feel like revealing to others.