DC Revamp
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...so wait, this Lois and Clark book... it has the pre-Flashpoint iterations?! I am torn here, because while I like those characters, it's somewhat worrying that the premise reads a bit like a peggy sue fic.
As far as Robin War goes I want the Robins to win rather than Damien, but I kinda don't see how they could.
As far as Robin War goes I want the Robins to win rather than Damien, but I kinda don't see how they could.
Static shock reboot
This time, the milestone characters will be in their own self contained universe....I'm actually disappointed by that since Young Justice made good use of Virgil.
[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WWzgGyAH6Y[/video]
So Batman is the villain here...I mean Kal-El made Mistakes, but even Alfred is telling Wayne to chill
This time, the milestone characters will be in their own self contained universe....I'm actually disappointed by that since Young Justice made good use of Virgil.
[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WWzgGyAH6Y[/video]
So Batman is the villain here...I mean Kal-El made Mistakes, but even Alfred is telling Wayne to chill
Luthor is the villain, he's playing Bruce and Clark against each other using Bruce's guilt and angry over the loss of his friends when his building went down in Metropolis.
He'll realize it wasn't Clark's fault in the end and help him stop Luthor.
Jason Todd is in the movie, Snyder's son is playing him, and he's in a flashback scene with Leto's Joker. You can probably guess what that scene is without too much thought given how much of DKR is an influence on the movie.
I actually just finished rereading Dark Knight Returns. I forgot how heavy the politics were in that. It makes some strong commentary on the 80s political scene.
I knew about it of course, I just forgot how prominent it was. Still an amazing read to this day though.
I haven't been keeping up with DC recently because I've been on a Marvel binge. Need to catch up...
He'll realize it wasn't Clark's fault in the end and help him stop Luthor.
Jason Todd is in the movie, Snyder's son is playing him, and he's in a flashback scene with Leto's Joker. You can probably guess what that scene is without too much thought given how much of DKR is an influence on the movie.
I actually just finished rereading Dark Knight Returns. I forgot how heavy the politics were in that. It makes some strong commentary on the 80s political scene.
I knew about it of course, I just forgot how prominent it was. Still an amazing read to this day though.
I haven't been keeping up with DC recently because I've been on a Marvel binge. Need to catch up...
Starting on my DC backlog tonight. Just got caught up with Marvel and didn't want to go bounce and fourth between DC and Marvel while catching up.
I've kept up with a few books, but overall I've been ignoring it and have a lot of reading to do. I'll probably be at it for a week or so to be honest.
After a few hours of reading, I just sort of realized that Harley Quinn has become DC's answer to Deadpool. They both pretty much have the same role, a fun, slightly evil character who can appear as a guest and boost sales numbers for struggling titles. She can be almost heroic or play the villain and constantly spouts dark humor. She does have more sex appeal, but she's pretty much DC's Deadpool and gets used in the same manner from a narrative perspective. She often tries to do good, but ends up screwing it up, and is just as likely to show up as the villain if the story needs it.
Edit: After reading yet another comic featuring Harley Quinn, she never shut up and even broke the 4th wall. She's totally Deadpool without the whole gross cancer thing and bewbs now.
I've kept up with a few books, but overall I've been ignoring it and have a lot of reading to do. I'll probably be at it for a week or so to be honest.
After a few hours of reading, I just sort of realized that Harley Quinn has become DC's answer to Deadpool. They both pretty much have the same role, a fun, slightly evil character who can appear as a guest and boost sales numbers for struggling titles. She can be almost heroic or play the villain and constantly spouts dark humor. She does have more sex appeal, but she's pretty much DC's Deadpool and gets used in the same manner from a narrative perspective. She often tries to do good, but ends up screwing it up, and is just as likely to show up as the villain if the story needs it.
Edit: After reading yet another comic featuring Harley Quinn, she never shut up and even broke the 4th wall. She's totally Deadpool without the whole gross cancer thing and bewbs now.
In some interesting DC news, the company has signed off on an R rated 'Killing Joke' animated movie.
This does not guarantee that the animated film will be R rated, but the door is open for it, and given the comic, it really should be.
It'd be nice if they got Mark Hamill to voice the Joker for this. I doubt they will, but maybe he'll have time between Star Wars movies to manage it? That would be epic. He'd really enjoy the tone of the Joker in this story I think.
This does not guarantee that the animated film will be R rated, but the door is open for it, and given the comic, it really should be.
It'd be nice if they got Mark Hamill to voice the Joker for this. I doubt they will, but maybe he'll have time between Star Wars movies to manage it? That would be epic. He'd really enjoy the tone of the Joker in this story I think.
That depends on how his contract is structured really, and scheduling.
I doubt Disney will care much about keeping him away from a direct to video animation project if there aren't any conflicts. He's also a big enough name to avoid exclusivity deals that keep him away from other projects and studios. He's not huge as an actor like Harrison Ford, but on a Star Wars project he's got more than enough leverage to get a contract that is skewed in his favor.
Those studio exclusive actor contracts are pretty rare these days as actors are far more freelance than they once were and don't really do the 'studio employee' thing anymore.
It's really probably just a question of whether they bother to ask him, how interested he is in the part, and whether or not he's busy with Episode VIII or IX at the time they record the voice work for the film.
If the stars align correctly it's totally possible he could do it. I doubt it will happen, but I don't see Disney holding him hostage over something like this. Maybe if it was a theatrical release competing with their Marvel projects, but an R rated direct to video animation project? They'll let him do what he wants for something like that as long as it doesn't get in the way of his project with them.
Hell, they might even encourage it. If he's working in a voice booth he's not running around on a movie set or doing things like flying vintage planes where he could be hurt or killed before his role is finished in the new trilogy.
I doubt Disney will care much about keeping him away from a direct to video animation project if there aren't any conflicts. He's also a big enough name to avoid exclusivity deals that keep him away from other projects and studios. He's not huge as an actor like Harrison Ford, but on a Star Wars project he's got more than enough leverage to get a contract that is skewed in his favor.
Those studio exclusive actor contracts are pretty rare these days as actors are far more freelance than they once were and don't really do the 'studio employee' thing anymore.
It's really probably just a question of whether they bother to ask him, how interested he is in the part, and whether or not he's busy with Episode VIII or IX at the time they record the voice work for the film.
If the stars align correctly it's totally possible he could do it. I doubt it will happen, but I don't see Disney holding him hostage over something like this. Maybe if it was a theatrical release competing with their Marvel projects, but an R rated direct to video animation project? They'll let him do what he wants for something like that as long as it doesn't get in the way of his project with them.
Hell, they might even encourage it. If he's working in a voice booth he's not running around on a movie set or doing things like flying vintage planes where he could be hurt or killed before his role is finished in the new trilogy.
So, MY Clark and Lois are married and living on this New 52 with their Son Jonathan White. Clark's powers are fluctuating again, but he's still the hero I recall. Only now he works in Secret, as does Lois, both of them saving lives, one with Alien powers and the other with Books exposing things like "Intergang".
As long as this family stays together and helps the New 52 world in secret I will temper SOME of my antagonism towards DC.
As long as this family stays together and helps the New 52 world in secret I will temper SOME of my antagonism towards DC.
I found it interesting that Pre-Crisis Kara and Barry as well as Zero Hour Hal are all out there in New 52 Earth as well. They just dicked off away from Earth because they 'wanted to find their own destiny'. I suppose Hal might have sent Kara and Barry out into the Multiverse somewhere with the teleport, but he at least just flew off into the sky...
George Barris, designer of TV's Batmobile, dead at 89
He also designed the Munster Koach from The Munsters, the Green Hornet's car from the titular series, the jalopy from The Beverly Hillbillies and K.I.T.T. from Knight Rider.
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He also designed the Munster Koach from The Munsters, the Green Hornet's car from the titular series, the jalopy from The Beverly Hillbillies and K.I.T.T. from Knight Rider.
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Is it time for the All New, All Different DC Universe?
I honestly hadn't realized DC had let things get this out of hand... Yeesh.
I honestly hadn't realized DC had let things get this out of hand... Yeesh.
DC has a Bat infestation problem. There are too many books focusing on too few characters and settings. The reality of it isn't as bad as the marketing image that they're projecting. They've got some decently diverse books, but they seem to get brushed aside and want to constantly shove the bat stuff and Superman in your face all the time.
Don't get me wrong, I like Batman. I'm not a hater of him or the Bat family, but there is too much of a focus on him throughout the publications. They do print other things, but according to how they market themselves pretty much the only real alternative is Superman and every other minor book is almost universally connected to Batman or Superman on a regular basis.
I know Marvel has it's 'flagship' books too, but overall their other stuff is more diverse and has a greater tonal spectrum. They do touch on each other, but are much more loosely tied and many of the books are able to do their own thing without feeling like an extension of the big books as much.
I think it's that DC removes the sense of space and distance between the characters and makes it all feel oddly local, almost as if it's all happening within the same city even though I know it's not, but it does often feel that way.
Marvel's writing is better about giving a sense of distance between the characters and their world. It's all still connected, but not so much that it's as if it's all happening within a very small area I guess. They have a much wider tone spectrum in their books and characters than DC does these days. They need to start pushing some of the other stuff they print and cut back on the Bat family and even Superman a little. Not cancel the books or anything, but put some more effort and focus on separating their other characters from those franchises a bit more and give them their own space to live in.
They do a good job of it sometimes in their non-flagship franchises, but they don't market it well enough and always end up dragging things back to Superman or Batman characters. I think people are getting kind of sick of it.
That, and their tone is getting kind of stagnant. They're still a bit stuck in their 90s Goth phase where everything is serious and gritty. It's being reflected in their film franchises and people are outright telling them to take some advice from their own character now and stop being so depressingly serious.
Man of Steel was literally designed to suck the joy and color from Superman for some strange reason. I get that tone works for Batman, but DC doesn't seem to get that it doesn't necessarily fit for every other character in their roster. I think Will Smith as Deadshot could be inspired casting, but only if they let him actually be the fun Will Smith and not the depressing one from his drama work.
Don't get me wrong, I like Batman. I'm not a hater of him or the Bat family, but there is too much of a focus on him throughout the publications. They do print other things, but according to how they market themselves pretty much the only real alternative is Superman and every other minor book is almost universally connected to Batman or Superman on a regular basis.
I know Marvel has it's 'flagship' books too, but overall their other stuff is more diverse and has a greater tonal spectrum. They do touch on each other, but are much more loosely tied and many of the books are able to do their own thing without feeling like an extension of the big books as much.
I think it's that DC removes the sense of space and distance between the characters and makes it all feel oddly local, almost as if it's all happening within the same city even though I know it's not, but it does often feel that way.
Marvel's writing is better about giving a sense of distance between the characters and their world. It's all still connected, but not so much that it's as if it's all happening within a very small area I guess. They have a much wider tone spectrum in their books and characters than DC does these days. They need to start pushing some of the other stuff they print and cut back on the Bat family and even Superman a little. Not cancel the books or anything, but put some more effort and focus on separating their other characters from those franchises a bit more and give them their own space to live in.
They do a good job of it sometimes in their non-flagship franchises, but they don't market it well enough and always end up dragging things back to Superman or Batman characters. I think people are getting kind of sick of it.
That, and their tone is getting kind of stagnant. They're still a bit stuck in their 90s Goth phase where everything is serious and gritty. It's being reflected in their film franchises and people are outright telling them to take some advice from their own character now and stop being so depressingly serious.
Man of Steel was literally designed to suck the joy and color from Superman for some strange reason. I get that tone works for Batman, but DC doesn't seem to get that it doesn't necessarily fit for every other character in their roster. I think Will Smith as Deadshot could be inspired casting, but only if they let him actually be the fun Will Smith and not the depressing one from his drama work.
