Naruto Different Kyuubis

seitora

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#1
While Kurama is GOD OF ALL BROS, there are still many 9-tail foxes in fiction and mythology and even lesser-tailed kitsune, etc. (Of course like 90% of them are female) Let's assume one of them was the 'Kyuubi' sealed away in Naruto (and if they don't actually have nine tails just handwave it as they used illusions or whatever)

Sooo

Tamamo from Monster Girl Quest?

The first time Naruto goes to try ramen, a voice will be shrieking and hollering at him from inside his head, "No, no, thin fried tofu, go for the thin fried tofu!"

:rofl:


or how about the OTHER Kurama from Yu Yu Hakusho?
 

seitora

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#3
daniel_gudman said:
what if Kyuubi was Kyubey
There was already a topic about this.

Involuntary magical girl Naruko
 

sinewyk

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#4
Ahri from League of Legends, because it was the first thing I thought of.
 

seitora

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#5
We could always do Ran Yakumo from Touhou



At least with her hat Naruto would have a role model and a reason for wearing his frog hat
 

Masterly

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#6
What if Kyuubi was Morichika Rinnosuke..
 

seitora

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#7
Masterly said:
What if Kyuubi was Morichika Rinnosuke..
He (likely, since whatever type of youkai his heritage is hasn't been revealed I believe) isn't a kitsune, though, let alone a 9-tails.

But I'll give you a nudge. Since he has white (silver?) hair and glasses, what if he replaced the white-haired glasses pretty boy that IS in the Naruto series?
 

ragnarok1337

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#9
seitora said:
We could always do Ran Yakumo from Touhou

At least with her hat Naruto would have a role model and a reason for wearing his frog hat
If he wanted a frog hat he would be wearing Pyonta.
 

Prince Charon

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#10
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Tamamo-no-Mae, as seen in Fate /Extra.
 

seitora

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#11
Prince Charon said:
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Tamamo-no-Mae, as seen in Fate /Extra.
Having read up on the Typemoon wiki for her


She'll totally make herself a foxwife for Naruto :rofl:
 

Inaba

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#12
Obligatory mention of the original Nine-Tailed Fox, the one who murdered Daji, took her form, seduced the last King of the Yin Dynasty, and proceeded to embroil the immortals of the time in a massive civil war. Simply put, she's the ur-example of the beautiful woman who brings down dynasties by occupying the attention of their rulers to the exclusion of all else, inspiring and being inspired by more historical examples such as Xi Shi and Yang Guifei.

Granted, the Fox that took the form of Daji is a rather one-note character because she delights in tormenting people and nothing else, but there are other elements that can be played up to provide more interesting angles. For example, she is an instrument of divine punishment sent down by her mistress, Nuwa, who created mankind using mud, slew a dragon that had knocked down the pillar of heaven, and repaired the teetering heavens using colored stones. What kind of person is Nuwa to send down such an evil and what kind of person was the Fox to have been able to attract Nuwa's trust?

Similarly, the Fox was famous for having two sworn sisters. One being a spirit inhabiting a jade pipa and fond of making predictions, while the other is a nine-headed pheasant. Given their demonstrated capabilities in the Investiture of the Gods, what can such individuals teach and who were they to have attracted the attention of a celestial handmaiden?
 

seitora

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#13
And something like that still makes me disappointed we didn't get more strains of the plot of the pilot in the regular manga.
 

seitora

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#14
And how could we have gotten so many posts into the topic without a mention of Chizuru Minamoto from Kanokon?



Then there's also her MILF mother, another Tamamo...
 

GenocideHeart

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#15
Inaba said:
For example, she is an instrument of divine punishment sent down by her mistress, Nuwa, who created mankind using mud, slew a dragon that had knocked down the pillar of heaven, and repaired the teetering heavens using colored stones. What kind of person is Nuwa to send down such an evil and what kind of person was the Fox to have been able to attract Nuwa's trust?
Nuwa was pissed at King Zhou of Shang for his perverted behavior towards her, and in a typical bitchfit, sent the fox down to fuck his shit up.

Unfortunately, she didn't quite think things through. Add to this that while the fox was malicious by nature, she got WORSE when exposed to humans (before, she was just cruel on a whim and could be pleasant if appeased, after, she became a brute who loved to hear agonized screams from dying people).

Basically, Nuwa threw a fit without thinking of consequences, and realized only too late what she had unleashed. There's a reason why some versions of the myth have the fox be redeemed after her demise (and Houshin Engi is based on one such version). Taigong Wang is even credited with actually TELLING Nuwa she made a fine mess of the situation, but went after Daji anyway out of duty.
 

Inaba

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#16
I find Nuwa interesting as a character. She's the mother of mankind (ignoring the later Pangu origin stories), but loving mother-goddess she ain't. Though to be fair, I don't think I can recall a lot of loving mother-goddesses other than Hathor offhand.

Fengshan Bang's depiction makes her out to be rash but not ill-natured so much as rushing into decisions. Nuwa sends down the Fox to lead the last Yin king into ruin, but not until she predicts that he is doomed and stipulates that the Fox avoid killing others. That said, I do find it hilarious that Nuwa first tries to stab the king in person before being rebuffed by fate. It fits in well with a goddess famous for indulging in a bit of dragon-stabbing prior to fixing the sky.

That said, I am unfamiliar with a version of the story where Jiang Ziya confronts Nuwa and would like to request a source, even though the original questions were meant to be rhetorical and I happen to be more interested in the possibilities of a post-Investiture Fox taking up some mind/soul/stomach space.
 

seitora

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#17
See, some of the pre-Bro!Kurama stories where the Kyuubi was influenced by the collective malice of humanity would have been interesting if some of this mythology was actually used.

But unfortunately most fanfic authors are hacks :sisi:
 

Inaba

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#18
I think that an interesting variation on the canon origin of the tailed beasts that could be explored in fanfiction is to have them be former disciples to the Sage of the Six Paths. It's an idea that gets a lot of precedent in the mythology of the Far East, perhaps most famously in Journey to the West.
 

GenocideHeart

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#19
Inaba said:
I find Nuwa interesting as a character. She's the mother of mankind (ignoring the later Pangu origin stories), but loving mother-goddess she ain't. Though to be fair, I don't think I can recall a lot of loving mother-goddesses other than Hathor offhand.

Fengshan Bang's depiction makes her out to be rash but not ill-natured so much as rushing into decisions. Nuwa sends down the Fox to lead the last Yin king into ruin, but not until she predicts that he is doomed and stipulates that the Fox avoid killing others. That said, I do find it hilarious that Nuwa first tries to stab the king in person before being rebuffed by fate. It fits in well with a goddess famous for indulging in a bit of dragon-stabbing prior to fixing the sky.

That said, I am unfamiliar with a version of the story where Jiang Ziya confronts Nuwa and would like to request a source, even though the original questions were meant to be rhetorical and I happen to be more interested in the possibilities of a post-Investiture Fox taking up some mind/soul/stomach space.
It's not exactly that he confronts her - he's very polite about it, but if you read between the lines, you can tell that Taigong Wang thinks she messed up. It's just that he's too smart to blatantly tell that to the face of THE Goddess, but if you know his character, you'll probably spot what I'm talking about.
 

Inaba

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#20
I apologize for assuming incorrectly, but what source are you referring to? I don't think it's the Fengshen Ban, since I don't recall Nuwa appearing outside of the one scene. Judging by Houshin Engi, are you perhaps referring to the manga or one of the other adaptations of the story?
 

GenocideHeart

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#21
Inaba said:
I apologize for assuming incorrectly, but what source are you referring to? I don't think it's the Fengshen Ban, since I don't recall Nuwa appearing outside of the one scene. Judging by Houshin Engi, are you perhaps referring to the manga or one of the other adaptations of the story?
It's a retelling of the story that appears in one of Pu Songling's stories. He's more well known for the Liaozhai Zhiyi, if that helps.

Admittedly, a lot of Pu Songling's stories involved foxes, so it does make sense...

Incidentally, I do recommend his tales to anyone who enjoys fantastic stories.
 

Inaba

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#22
Thanks, I've always wanted to read his stories but never managed to find the time.

That said, I do find it interesting that fox spirits became so popular during the last dynasties, to the point where some households began worshiping them in their homes.
 

wingthesword

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#23
seitora said:
While Kurama is GOD OF ALL BROS, there are still many 9-tail foxes in fiction and mythology and even lesser-tailed kitsune, etc. (Of course like 90% of them are female) Let's assume one of them was the 'Kyuubi' sealed away in Naruto (and if they don't actually have nine tails just handwave it as they used illusions or whatever)

Sooo

Tamamo from Monster Girl Quest?

The first time Naruto goes to try ramen, a voice will be shrieking and hollering at him from inside his head, "No, no, thin fried tofu, go for the thin fried tofu!"

:rofl:


or how about the OTHER Kurama from Yu Yu Hakusho?
What if he wants to pet her fluffy tail?
 

seitora

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#25
I'm now imagining a merger of 'It's vewy purty' and 'Touch fluffy tail'

It is NOT a good sign!
 
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