The making fun of Voldemort's and Dumbledore's name. I recently read six chapters of Harry Potter and the Witches' Secret and had to quit, I mean they had everyone up to Narcissa Malfoy saying "dork lord Vulturewart" and sometimes writers will have characters like Snape or Amelia Bones make fun of them in serious settings or to the press or to the minister. To me that's idiotic that everyone instantly makes fun of one of their society's worst fears after a fifteen year old kid calls him that, someone that is feared so much that most of their society calls him you-know-who? Or makes fun of one of their world's greatest heroes? Not likely I say
Harry Potter Dislikes in Fanon
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tridentwatch said:
Dislikes in Fanon: When Harry does not grow a moustache. So annoying.
Likes: Moustache!Harry like in this fan fic picture:
You can see the scar on Harry's picture above if you squint.
Likes: Moustache!Harry like in this fan fic picture:
You can see the scar on Harry's picture above if you squint.
Agreed. Being teenager enough to make fun of someone's name is a hell of a long way from being able to actually beat them in any form of combat. In fact, Harry in particular doing it, strikes me as him being petty because he can't hurt Voldemort any other way.
What bugs me the most in HP fanfiction, though, is the use of American colloquialisms by British teenagers. British Wizard teenagers. In the mid-90s, there was no way that any teenager, or anybody of any other age group, would be using American phrases like Ass, Jerk, Dork or whatever. Even now, with the international access to American television shows, it's very rare to her a Brit spouting off like a SoCal teenager.
Also, the word 'bloody' is not the only swear word in the English language. If you want to learn some more of them, go and watch any of the BtVS scenes where Spike appeared - he is probably themost convincing foul-mouthed English character I've ever seen US television portray.
What bugs me the most in HP fanfiction, though, is the use of American colloquialisms by British teenagers. British Wizard teenagers. In the mid-90s, there was no way that any teenager, or anybody of any other age group, would be using American phrases like Ass, Jerk, Dork or whatever. Even now, with the international access to American television shows, it's very rare to her a Brit spouting off like a SoCal teenager.
Also, the word 'bloody' is not the only swear word in the English language. If you want to learn some more of them, go and watch any of the BtVS scenes where Spike appeared - he is probably themost convincing foul-mouthed English character I've ever seen US television portray.
The ironic thing about the insults to Dumbledore, in particular, is that he'd probably find the ones that tweak his name quite amusing. He'd just shrug them off, or his eyes would twinkle, and the people insulting him would probably find that very maddening. The one thing in canon that we've actually seen make Dumbledore angry is hurting one of his students. It's almost funny in a way -- most fanfic authors that I've seen try to write Dumbledore do a pathetic job of it, because they don't understand him at all.
The only FAN author I've ever read who seems to have a clue where Dumbledore is coming from OR what the man's motivations are, and it's only speculation because we never actually get into the man's mind, is Dzeytoun. He's an author who wrote some really excellent stuff between the publications of Phoenix and Prince, but hasn't updated anything since before Prince was published.
The only FAN author I've ever read who seems to have a clue where Dumbledore is coming from OR what the man's motivations are, and it's only speculation because we never actually get into the man's mind, is Dzeytoun. He's an author who wrote some really excellent stuff between the publications of Phoenix and Prince, but hasn't updated anything since before Prince was published.
Yeah. The man is ancient - there's no way he hasn't heard each and every single insult a thousand times before. And it's not like insulting him is even going to get you anywhere - Tom or Severus would likely explode in a fit of childish pique, at having their dignity trodden on.
Albus? He'd chuckle and then offer you a sweet, because he doesn't seem to care much about taking himself seriously. He's too old and too experienced to give a damn, as far as I can see.
Albus? He'd chuckle and then offer you a sweet, because he doesn't seem to care much about taking himself seriously. He's too old and too experienced to give a damn, as far as I can see.
When authors can't even be bothered to check and see if the information they're using is correct. The most common of this is, of course, that in fanon, Harry almost always seems to use Occlumency to enter other people's minds, not Legilimency. It just drives me up the wall to see so many people get this wrong.
Another is making shit up on the spot. The writer realizes that there's no way he can write a scene or plot that he wants, and makes up a power with some silly ass name just to push it along, right in the middle of the conversation.
"Oh! I just realized my gift of ParselNecroSummonDeusExMachinganancy tells me that I can trust you! Will you bear my children?"
Another is making shit up on the spot. The writer realizes that there's no way he can write a scene or plot that he wants, and makes up a power with some silly ass name just to push it along, right in the middle of the conversation.
"Oh! I just realized my gift of ParselNecroSummonDeusExMachinganancy tells me that I can trust you! Will you bear my children?"
How about when Lily hooks up with Severus or would cheat on James with him. I mean why would she hook up with a greasey hook-nosed slimeball that is a hypocrit and that insults her. Personally I can not understand the logic in that. While James might not be perfect he is honorable but he is just a teenager at that time that is trying to impress her the only way he knows how.
This is to any female that I would ask where you would ever hook up with someone like that when there are other better options?
This is to any female that I would ask where you would ever hook up with someone like that when there are other better options?
Things if fanon that annoy me...
Angry Harry...
I am not talking about him being angry for a short time. I am talking about him being angry for over a dozen chapters with no wavering in his feelings. The closest words I can put to the feeling I get from reading 95% of these fics is "atonal nightmare".
Character Bashing...
Granted, it can be great fun, but few authors can do it well. Most authors who do character bash do it so overtly that it detracts from the story itself. Fewer still have the actual skill or flair required to make fun of a character without replacing them with a caricature (usually a bad one at that).
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Umm, Parker...just how would the wizarding world develop an organized religion? They can change the very nature of substances. Topping their abilities to make the common wizard fearful of something else's judgment would be rather difficult.
Angry Harry...
I am not talking about him being angry for a short time. I am talking about him being angry for over a dozen chapters with no wavering in his feelings. The closest words I can put to the feeling I get from reading 95% of these fics is "atonal nightmare".
Character Bashing...
Granted, it can be great fun, but few authors can do it well. Most authors who do character bash do it so overtly that it detracts from the story itself. Fewer still have the actual skill or flair required to make fun of a character without replacing them with a caricature (usually a bad one at that).
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Umm, Parker...just how would the wizarding world develop an organized religion? They can change the very nature of substances. Topping their abilities to make the common wizard fearful of something else's judgment would be rather difficult.
That brings me back to a few stories I've read where religion is EVERYWHERE.
I don't mean like "Denarian Renegade." Religion is there, but it's not like that (Mostly, it's demons) I mean those stories where everyone gets religion. There was one where Ginny became Baptist to 'prove her love to Harry.'
I'm not saying my opinions on religion, I'm just saying it drives me up the wall that to read a story, I'm forced to have someone else shove their religion down my throat.
I don't mean like "Denarian Renegade." Religion is there, but it's not like that (Mostly, it's demons) I mean those stories where everyone gets religion. There was one where Ginny became Baptist to 'prove her love to Harry.'
I'm not saying my opinions on religion, I'm just saying it drives me up the wall that to read a story, I'm forced to have someone else shove their religion down my throat.
While the purebloods are likely to be relatively non-religious if not atheistic as a group, considering their collective egos in thinking themselves superior to everything else alive; some Muggle-born witches and wizards may continue to respect whatever beliefs their parents may have raised them to follow. Or not. It depends on the individual.
Even the purebloods may depend on the individual. This is speculation. Rowling hasn't addressed this at all because she wants to limit controversy.
Even the purebloods may depend on the individual. This is speculation. Rowling hasn't addressed this at all because she wants to limit controversy.
A few things:
One. Grammar and spelling check, please? We're all guilty of typing too fast, but make an effort, at least.
Two: Not "all wizards and witches think to some extent that they are are above muggles." That's part of the source of the conflict between Voldemort's Death Eaters and those who oppose them. The old purebloods believe they are better.
Three: That statement was a very broad generalization. I have a hard time picturing Hermione Granger believing herself to be superior to all muggles and squibs based on her magic abilities. Or Arthur Weasley, who is absolutely fascinated with anything and everything muggle, to the point of placing loopholes in laws he helped draft just so he can tinker with muggle equipment. Even Hagrid, the half-giant wizard, in the first book, liked to point out things the muggles have around them, telling Harry how clever the muggles are. I'm not saying no wizard believes that, just not all of them.
Finally, the wizarding world isn't "low tech," it's "no tech." There is no proper 'tech' to speak of. The Wizarding Wireless? The Ministry of Magic building? It's all MAGIC. It's not muggle equipment that wizards are using, it's magical charms and enchantments. Muggle equipment doesn't work very well around magic, so even if somehow the whole of all the magical community wanted to go as modern as the rest of the world, they couldn't. It'd all short out and stop working.
And what the hell does "they must beleive that someone or thing made them more than muggles and squibs or else they wouldn't be so low tech" even mean? How does being low tech even fall into the belief of being more than others?
One. Grammar and spelling check, please? We're all guilty of typing too fast, but make an effort, at least.
Two: Not "all wizards and witches think to some extent that they are are above muggles." That's part of the source of the conflict between Voldemort's Death Eaters and those who oppose them. The old purebloods believe they are better.
Three: That statement was a very broad generalization. I have a hard time picturing Hermione Granger believing herself to be superior to all muggles and squibs based on her magic abilities. Or Arthur Weasley, who is absolutely fascinated with anything and everything muggle, to the point of placing loopholes in laws he helped draft just so he can tinker with muggle equipment. Even Hagrid, the half-giant wizard, in the first book, liked to point out things the muggles have around them, telling Harry how clever the muggles are. I'm not saying no wizard believes that, just not all of them.
Finally, the wizarding world isn't "low tech," it's "no tech." There is no proper 'tech' to speak of. The Wizarding Wireless? The Ministry of Magic building? It's all MAGIC. It's not muggle equipment that wizards are using, it's magical charms and enchantments. Muggle equipment doesn't work very well around magic, so even if somehow the whole of all the magical community wanted to go as modern as the rest of the world, they couldn't. It'd all short out and stop working.
And what the hell does "they must beleive that someone or thing made them more than muggles and squibs or else they wouldn't be so low tech" even mean? How does being low tech even fall into the belief of being more than others?
A few things, first:
Wizards like Arthure Weasley [sp] and Hagrid speak about muggles like they are some interesting animal or pet, a curiosity if you will.
And second, why when you have magic and can alter the very fabric of time and space do you need technology?
I see lots of people going on because wizards are old fashiond [sp] and not up to date and then have Harry beate Voldy with Technomancy, but realy, why?
All home convieniances can be replecated with a simple charm which is probly quicker, cleaner, quieter and takes up less space. Magical traviel is almost instantanius with no polution. The only thing they maby carn't do is mass production, but with such a small comunity, so?
Wizards like Arthure Weasley [sp] and Hagrid speak about muggles like they are some interesting animal or pet, a curiosity if you will.
And second, why when you have magic and can alter the very fabric of time and space do you need technology?
I see lots of people going on because wizards are old fashiond [sp] and not up to date and then have Harry beate Voldy with Technomancy, but realy, why?
All home convieniances can be replecated with a simple charm which is probly quicker, cleaner, quieter and takes up less space. Magical traviel is almost instantanius with no polution. The only thing they maby carn't do is mass production, but with such a small comunity, so?
The abused and innocent Snape at the hands of James Potter, the one on how he was defenseless against them, and his friends and that it was there fault that he joined Voldemort.
I mean come on, he was flat out stated to know about the dark arts entering Hogwarts then most seventh years.
And that cliche about how once Snape finds out of Harry's home life he starts to care fore him and the other one being that Snape actually giving a damn about the students and being a good teacher.
I mean come on, he was flat out stated to know about the dark arts entering Hogwarts then most seventh years.
And that cliche about how once Snape finds out of Harry's home life he starts to care fore him and the other one being that Snape actually giving a damn about the students and being a good teacher.