Nasuverse Drama/Humor (Romance?!) Crackfic Crossover

SMWhat

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#1
No, no, a crackfic only means it's a really odd idea...

The Throne of Heroes, which preserves the souls of all Epic Spirits, exists outside of any conventional timeline, so a servant can be called from any point in history. Conclusion: a servant can also be the reincarnation of someone from an alternate timeline (such as in the case of you-know-who).

The Einzbern family in Germany several months prior to the 5th Holy Grail War summons "Berserker". However, Illyasviel von Einzbern doesn't have a hard time at all restraining this Berserker's "mighty spirit", and so has no need to keep Berserker in a continual state of madness. That's because this Berserker's true identity is...

Shinji Ikari.


wait what

Seriously, I must be crazy, here. Perhaps it is even Shinji who wins this War, wishing...? I dunno, actually. But I do see the Progressive Knife (and maybe AT Field?) as an attack. And you know how in certain anime or manga there's this super desperation attack a character only uses once in the whole series?

Unit-01 oh dear


Feedback?
 

AbyssalDaemon

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#3
Fatuous One said:
On the other hand, I'd like to note that it'd likely require so much mana to make use of 01 that it isn't even funny. ...I think, anyway, that's going a bit out of my depth... a bit.
Actually if this Shinji from the end of the series then the only mana cost would be the summoning of Unit-1, the S2 organ pretty much gives it unlimited energy; although I can't see him being allowed to use it after the first time he pulls it out given the effort the Nasuverse wizards have put into staying hidden.

Something that Unit-1, the equivalent to a walking skyscraper is going to make rather hard.
 

TheEcchiSessha

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#4
Interesting.

As for Shinji's NP, you could have when he goes "berserk"; he transforms into a scaled-down Unit-01. After all, a fullsize eva would cause large amounts of damage to a normal city.

Also, Shinji using a full-sized Unit-01 would be more of a Rider than Berserker.

However, I agree with F-1 pretty much.

This is only my 2 cents on this.

~The Ecchi Sessha
 

SMWhat

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#6
That's why the whole EVA thing would probably be a one-time-in-the-whole-story thing--it'd probably nearly kill him. And why not have him have that much mana? None of his other attacks would really use mana, right? It could be the "plot twist" in the final chapters.

Heh. Sorry, I keep getting this image of Shinji screaming to the sky in the foreground, while in the background, a giant purple what-the-hell digs its way out of the ground. PHOOM! KRACKOW!

You don't suppose with all his battling that Shinji might be able to fight at least a bit well with a smaller version of the progressive knife?

Arthur C. Clarke once said "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." I also read a science fiction story once where it turned out that all the stuff we use today--televisions, radios, toasters--were actually run by magic. Maybe normal people sort of placed it together, but it wouldn't truly work to the best of its capabilities until some wizard or witch mumbled a few words over it. I mean, who would know? The only reason we know that radios aren't magical is because that's what others tell us, right? :p

Well, the guy has to be pretty lucky to get through NGE relatively unhurt, right? I mean, he goes to the hospital a lot, but it's really minor, ish. Of course, it's pretty offset by the fact that his life sucks in the first place.

What do you see Shinji's alignment as, by the way? I mean, I think he's "good", right? He did the whole robot thing. He could've left. Almost did leave. But on the lawful-chaotic scale...?
 

Eternity

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#8
Well, one way to do it would be to merge Shinji and Eva-01, basicly Shinji with purple armor and the prog knife, likely with the horn on his helm. his NP? an AT field ^^; the only thing that can break through it is another AT field, or maybe Ea, so he's kinda like Herakles with less bulk and grunting ^^;

the S2, well, thats been used before, in a fanfiction, someones SI had previously been to the Eva-verse, got shoved into a Gay-Angel body ^^; and well, lets just say he wasn't happy, but as he was leaving *trying to get back to another line where he had people he considered family, I think* he gets nabbed as Lancer ^^; NP's are Lancea Loginus and Invictus, aka his S2 organ, the fact that he can servive forever without a master, but considering the power requirements for a servent, he discorpes and runs out of power after, three or for battles, not bad really, but yeah, while Invictus could supply him energy it was maybe a tenth what a master would supply.
 

SMWhat

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#9
The von Einzberns weren't specifically going for a Berzerker, right? I remember there being something about class, one servant says to what's his name.

(I'd be terrible at drawing comic books. Horrible memory = botched continuity.)

Classes. He could've something something. Different classes? Something about different classes. I mean like--Lancer, Assassin, Berzerker, that sort of thing.

I can't see Shinji being a Lancer, seeing as his only contact with the Lance was...you know. Granted that was important, but it was still only once. If it were Rei, maybe, but that's besides the point.

With the Progressive Knife--lengthen it a little and you get a Progressive Sword of some sort? A Saber?! Maybe not, seeing as the Knife lengthening would screw up its whole balance in Shinji's hands, since he wouldn't be used to it? But I just can't see him very threatening with only a knife.

Rider has this one attack that collected mana, didn't she? For some reason, that reminds me of Third Impact.
 
#11
... would Shinji really have a 'legend' though, you know, what with the world ending and all?

Personally, I saw his NP as the Lance, too, and maybe an AT field, working kinda like... was it Berserker who was immune to anything under a certain level of attack? He'd make a good servant, since he'd be immune to most attacks and his lance would pierce any barrier. Also, there's the going berserk in battle thing. And since he controled the EVA with his mind, there's no logical reason a magically-empowered Shinji can't fight with the same skill he piloted with.

As for the fact it doesn't fit his legend... well, what legend? Even assuming the world didn't end, civillians didn't watch the battles. Didn't Kensuke say NERV tried to keep the battles off the news with media blackouts? Most of everyone who saw Shinji fight were NERV. So just say watching the finally battle had the biggest impact on their opinion of him. (Or, you know, the world did end, and Shinji's legend is influenced by Third Impact/Rei or something.)
 

SMWhat

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#12
It's a possibility for people to come back from gooville, isn't there? I'm sure at least some NERV personnel would've made it back, depending on how you intepret the whole "Rei's there when they die so they can come back" thing. Also, with everyone turning into goo, there's going to be very bad things happening around the world--planes full of passengers one second crashing down the next, car crashes as there's no one left to steer, train wrecks--

My point is, there's going to be fires and fires and all kinds of a mess. And I don't see a whole lot of people coming back from gooville--just enough that those who want to marry can marry and those who don't want to don't have to and the human race is still able to survive and grow again.

Wait, my point--I'm pretty sure a white-collar worker who's come back isn't going to be able to work a power plant very well. So, technologically, everyone's going to be set back a bit, right? Correct me if I'm wrong, please.

Also--the thing about stories is that they corrupt.

"See, this guy Ikari--he wanted to be God, and so he made his son Shinji go though these horrible things--so Shinji is like Jesus, see? And then everyone turned into orange."

could eventually become:

"God tricked Shinji into killing his own Angels but then Shinji became God instead."

Or something similar. Or something completely different.
 
#14
About the legend bit... yes I know everyone knows about the EVAs. But most of the world only knows about a giant robot. Everyone keeps bringing up prog knives (lameass weapon), and the general public won't know what that is. You can't see the battles from inside the shelter, and the media will NOT show anything NERV doesn't want shown. Which is everything.

So while Shinji may have a legend, it isn't a very focused one, since almost nobody knows anything, except for NERV itself, in which case there's no reason not to tweak things so he can't have something that doesn't suck. Because nobody wants to use a knife. Even if it does vibrate. We don't have to be entirely logical here, because afterall, I sure as hell don't remember Arthur being a girl. (Besides, I have to think of the catgirls. You don't want God to kill any catgirls over this, do you?)

As for the second part, I know it wasn't a function of the class. I was comparing how I saw the AT field working as a Noble Phantasm. That is, a barrier that grants immunity to attacks below a certain level, the same as God Hand. (No extra lives obviously.)

So Shinji would have two NPs. The Lance of Longinus, and his Absolute Territory. One is a weapon that pretty much ignores any magical defense, the other is a magical defense that ignores any attack below a certain strength.
 

AbyssalDaemon

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#15
Don't forget about all those solders at the EoE, they all seemed to know of Shinji and Unit-1 although from what little they said made it sound as if what they'd been told had been twisted somewhat. Something that could help form part of Shinji's legend.
 

SMWhat

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#16
Avenger was just a normal, non-heroic person, wasn't he?
 

Pale Wolf

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#17
Heh.

I'm sure I have more comments, but I really can't think of what they are just now.

And... Romance? I'm not sure what to say to that thought.

At the moment, technology hasn't come to the point where it can defeat magic in the Nasuverse, I'm fairly sure that there is a point (in the far future, think like 3000, if not later) that it comes close as shown with the Aristotles losing 6 of their numbers.
Actually, the Aristoteles are a kind of different case.

Servants can't be killed by mundane weapons because they're a 'mystery'. Aristoteles, on the other hand, don't have an Earthlike concept of death. Even that far, they weren't able to be killed, but they were able to utterly nuke them down to their constituent parts. Even in the present, human technology might be able to take on one of the Aristoteles. Of course, when it recovers and continues its mission, things get a little hairy.

But that's still not really a statement that magic is stronger or weaker. Even in Angel Note, some of the Aristoteles were taken on by people empowered more by a freak environmental condition than technology, etc... It's more a statement of 'those pitiful humans were fighting against the rest of the solar system, and they were perhaps winning?'



But you're right. If it's a Servant's weapon, it's counted as a 'mystery' and is able to hurt a mystery.

Also, for some added info, Heracles has 12 'extra' lives, but... it was hinted that he could 'regenerate' any of those lost over time. ^^;;
Eleven extra. He's only got twelve lives, not thirteen.

his Absolute Territory. One is a weapon that pretty much ignores any magical defense, the other is a magical defense that ignores any attack below a certain strength.
Hm... Actually, I see it as something more like a downgraded Avalon. Ie 'shutting out' all influence within an area around him. Unlike Avalon, probably able to be overpowered, or maneuvered around dimensionally - AT field is closer to an extension of psychology than a dimensional separation like Avalon is.
 
#19
Christopher Robin said:
About the legend bit... yes I know everyone knows about the EVAs.á But most of the world only knows about a giant robot.á Everyone keeps bringing up prog knives (lameass weapon), and the general public won't know what that is.á You can't see the battles from inside the shelter, and the media will NOT show anything NERV doesn't want shown.á Which is everything.

So while Shinji may have a legend, it isn't a very focused one, since almost nobody knows anything, except for NERV itself, in which case there's no reason not to tweak things so he can't have something that doesn't suck.á Because nobody wants to use a knife.á Even if it does vibrate.á We don't have to be entirely logical here, because afterall, I sure as hell don't remember Arthur being a girl.á (Besides, I have to think of the catgirls.á You don't want God to kill any catgirls over this, do you?)

As for the second part, I know it wasn't a function of the class.á I was comparing how I saw the AT field working as a Noble Phantasm.á That is, a barrier that grants immunity to attacks below a certain level, the same as God Hand.á (No extra lives obviously.)

So Shinji would have two NPs.á The Lance of Longinus, and his Absolute Territory.á One is a weapon that pretty much ignores any magical defense, the other is a magical defense that ignores any attack below a certain strength.
Fatuous One said:
But really, if you're saying that information is being stifled enough that the mass majority don't know crap, why would Shinji have the Lance, and an A.T. field, arguable two of the bigger secrets that NERV holds?
I kinda agree with F-1 on the Lance and AT(Absolute Terror IIRC) Field. However, something like that can be worked around with a few plot devices.

Also Shinji with the LoL would qualify more for Lancer than Berserker.

However, one could claim Shinji might be similar in nature to Avenger; as Shinji was at the center of 3rd Impact.

~The Ecchi Sessha
 

SMWhat

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#20
Pale Wolf said:
And... Romance? I'm not sure what to say to that thought.
Ha ha! I actually just put that in to screw with your head.

If there's one thing I enjoy, it's reactions.
 

Moshulel

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#21
As for Shinji as Berserker, heh, yes, I actually thought of this one with... someone before (Mosh, maybe?).
Yes? We had quite a number of debates on anime characters as heroes if you recall. ;)

Aristoteles, on the other hand, don't have an Earthlike concept of death. Even that far, they weren't able to be killed, but they were able to utterly nuke them down to their constituent parts
Reminds me of Arcueid for some reason... *shrugs*

But really, if you're saying that information is being stifled enough that the mass majority don't know crap, why would Shinji have the Lance, and an A.T. field, arguable two of the bigger secrets that NERV holds?
Due to the very nature of the throne of heroes this could be solved if we go after the movie *Death and Rebirth*.

*Too drunk & tired to post more*
 

Pale Wolf

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#22
Ah. Well, I was just using the Aristoteles as an example, but I suppose I really shouldn't have, since I actually have very little idea knowledge on them. Thanks for clearing that bit up. ^^;;
No problem.

Actually, the problem with killing Servants with mundane weapons isn't even that they're powerful. It's that they're ghosts.

Of course, on the subject of killing Aristoteles, I recall someone saying that the Throne of Heroes was just pretty much a container for the greatest weapon of mankind (i.e., heroes). People who fought against the odds and somehow won. Which, in that case, would be the same as those people?
Well... possibly. At that point, the whole human race pretty much beat the odds to survive the planet's death. Although it's hard to guess on how the throne would work with Gaia dead and only Alaya to work with...

Ha ha! I actually just put that in to screw with your head.

If there's one thing I enjoy, it's reactions.
Dunno... It's a viable possibility :)

Reminds me of Arcueid for some reason... *shrugs*
Yup. Arcueid very nearly IS one of the Aristoteles. She's a perfect successor to Crimson Moon, and Crimson Moon is the Aristotele of the Moon (Type-Moon).
 

SMWhat

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#23
Pale Wolf said:
Dunno... It's a viable possibility :)
This whole thing came from a night of "How could I write a crossover with NGE and/or pair Shinji up with someone from a different show/comic?"

I see...a boy and a girl trying to out angst each other. Also, Shinji wondering if he pissed off someone German in a past life.

I'ma just wait here for the nice men in the white coats to take me away.
 

Liam-don

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#24
The only NP Shinji would need is his own A.T. field , because I seriously doudt any NP is half as strong as Nerv 's positron rifle n apart from Gilgamesh's flashy dildo .And he could use it as both attack and defense .

I'd see him having a Reality marble , either recreating the plain inside the geofront or the beach with the Crucified Eva series.There , he could use Unit one without worries.Or he could use it the same way Lark Use 19 In gunbuster , materializing limbs.

I don't think he'd attack Masters because he wouldn't want to kill , but Servants would be fair game.Illya could make him go berserk by using his memories what happened to him

He could hit it off with saber , too .They'd both want to get back to before things went to shit in they're own timeline, if Shinji shows some real courage,anyway.
 

ttestagr

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#25
Excalibur would be stronger than a positron rifle I would think. It is an anti-fortress attack of extreme power. I don't even need to describe Gi's anti-world...
 
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