Akamatsuverse Emo Sensei Negima!

Alzrius

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#1
A quick note: this idea has some SPOILERS if you haven't read past the eighth volume of the manga.

Instead of being the happy-go-lucky ten year-old from the manga, Negi is an embittered youth, having witnessed horrors at a young age.

When the demons attacked his village when he was four, the Thousand Master didn't show up to save him. With no one to stop them, Negi could do nothing but watch as his home was burned to the ground, and the people killed (turned into statues and smashed), with the last one being Nekane right after she hid him away.

Realizing later that whoever had unleashed the demons on his town had done it in revenge against the deceased Thousand Master, Negi grows to hate his father. Why didn't the Thousand Master kill his enemies? Why didn't he make sure there'd be no one looking to kill his family in revenge? To Negi, his father irresponsibly showed mercy to evil people, and he (Negi) and everyone he knew had to pay the price for that.

This Negi is battle-ready, having studied combat and combat magic ever since that time. He always responds to threats of violence with violence, cares little for secrecy if there's a fight, and always seeks to kill opponents on the battlefield, lest they someday return to kill the people he cares about (Anya wasn't in the village when it burned, and Chamo survived also).

Now that he's been sent to teach English to middle school girls at Mahora, will that mellow Negi out, or is he set on permanently finishing what the Thousand Master started?
 

AbyssalDaemon

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#2
Very intersting idea, it would certinly change his relationship with Evangeline and the rest of the class.
 

GenocideHeart

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#3
AbyssalDaemon said:
Very intersting idea, it would certinly change his relationship with Evangeline and the rest of the class.
I could actually see him empathizing with Evangeline, actually. He'd see her as yet another example of his father's foolishness - not only sparing an enemy, but making her even more bitter and bent on revenge by trapping her in a downright cruel fashion.

And both have a certain hatred of Nagi... I could see them hitting a truce for the time being, since both were made miserable by the Thousand Master. 'The enemy of thy enemy is thy ally'.
 

Moshulel

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#4
I think a lot will depend on the first meeting. If Evangeline attacks him >>> all bets are off.
 

AbyssalDaemon

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#5
GenocideHeart said:
AbyssalDaemon said:
Very intersting idea, it would certinly change his relationship with Evangeline and the rest of the class.
I could actually see him empathizing with Evangeline, actually. He'd see her as yet another example of his father's foolishness - not only sparing an enemy, but making her even more bitter and bent on revenge by trapping her in a downright cruel fashion.

And both have a certain hatred of Nagi... I could see them hitting a truce for the time being, since both were made miserable by the Thousand Master. 'The enemy of thy enemy is thy ally'.
Interesting point. He'd certainly spend more time around her in order to learn some of the magic she knows, as well as to pump her dry of information about how his father fights and what his preferred spells are for it.

Something that I didn't think of until know is that Evangeline looks very similar to a younger Nekane which is probably going to somewhat color how Negi interacts with her.

Alzrius just how does Negi interact with his father's old friends?
 

Alzrius

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#6
AbyssalDaemon said:
Alzrius just how does Negi interact with his father's old friends?
That's something of a hard one to answer. The manga seems to imply that Takamichi knew Nagi, but that's not definite, so it's easy to dance around. I see Takamichi (as well as the other adults who know Negi), as being rather worried about how he's growing up, and trying to subtley encourage him to mellow out (hence why they arranged for him to become a teacher at Mahora). Negi, however, is at least somewhat aware of this, and so holds said people in varying levels of contempt; as far as Negi's concerned, he's the only one taking the correct approach, and he just can't figure out why the adults in his life are trying to screw that up.

How Negi'd react to Eishun (Konoka's father) is a bit harder to figure out. Negi only meets him for a short time, and that's during fairly extreme circumstances.
 
#7
I'll be paying very close attention to this. Main characters with embittered pasts and absolutely no hestitation whatsoever when it comes to violence are longtime favorites of mine, going back to some of my earliest fanfiction days (even before I began my short-lived writing career), and my penname (and the character it references) is a testament to that. I'm a bit indifferent as to the wording of the title - "emo" emplys something more along the lines of crying in the darkness and slitting your wrists rather than living in the darkness and slitting other people's throats. Aside from that minor point, this has all the makings of a truly great fanfiction - and the Negima section has been quite lacking in those as of late.
 

Alzrius

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#8
Dark Knight Gafgar said:
I'm a bit indifferent as to the wording of the title - "emo" emplys something more along the lines of crying in the darkness and slitting your wrists rather than living in the darkness and slitting other people's throats.
Hm, I was under the impression that someone who was "emo" was a dark, brooding person due to concealing some inner, bitter pain. Characters like Sasuke from Naruto or Squall from FF VIII are what come to mind when I think of emo characters. It helps that emo guys seem to be chick magnets. ^_^

That said, I'm not sure if I'm going to do more with this idea or not. It's easy for me to come up with ideas, but very difficult to actually write them out as full-fledged fics.
 

AbyssalDaemon

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#9
Alzrius said:
Hm, I was under the impression that someone who was "emo" was a dark, brooding person due to concealing some inner, bitter pain. Characters like Sasuke from Naruto or Squall from FF VIII are what come to mind when I think of emo characters. It helps that emo guys seem to be chick magnets. ^_^
That tends have more to do with them looking like girls then anything else.
 

Alzrius

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#10
AbyssalDaemon said:
That tends have more to do with them looking like girls then anything else.
That actually seems to fit Negi perfectly, in that case. He's a very bishounen character.
 

Israfel

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#11
YES!!!! I've been waiting for a story like this for a while to show up in the Negima section, I love 'power' fics and have been wanting to see a power!Negi fic for awhile, if you don't write this, there will be consequences, and they will be long and painful.
 

GenocideHeart

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#12
Israfel said:
YES!!!! I've been waiting for a story like this for a while to show up in the Negima section, I love 'power' fics and have been wanting to see a power!Negi fic for awhile, if you don't write this, there will be consequences, and they will be long and painful.
I had an idea like that, actually. But it is sorta weird.

It involves Negi being spirited away during the attack of the demons that his dad saved him from... by one of said demons. Specifically, a marilith, who then, in a bout of insanity, decides to raise him, just because she feels like it. After all, she reasons, she can always eat him later.

Amazingly enough, Negi grows on her and learns a fair bit of Marilith battle skills and magic - along with acquiring a rather nasty streak and a penchant to blow up if he gets mad. Eventually, he decides to seek out his relatives, if there's any. He ends up being reunited to his sisters, who survived (though not without scars). They are leery of the strange, rude woman with him, but when he says she kept him safe, they mellow a little.

A couple years or so pass, and Negi graduates, in no small part thanks to the Marilith's lessons. She still hangs around him, and might or might not have made a pactio with him. He's got a lot of animosity towards his dad for not showing up in time, but thinks it pointless to waste energy getting angry over it.

Negi's test is, once again, to teach in Japan. This time, however, he's a lot les patient than usual, has a nasty meanstreak and has a less than forgiving Greater Glaabrezu following him around and acting as a mother hen. Things will be different, indeed...
 

GenocideHeart

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#14
Moshulel said:
I like it. And demon mother hen is always fun to see :p
Well the demon mother hen has six arms, pointy teeth, has a snake body that, on average, is 30 feet long on normal female Mariliths, and has the nastiest temper this side of a dragon. :yay:
 
#15
For "Power Negi" you'd obviously have to go with Negi the Kel'Thuzad clone \o Think about it: Kil'Jaeden has a lousy aim, thus the Frozen Throne and the Lich King miss Azeroth entirely and land on Earth somewhere. I'm almost tempted to write it myself. Almost.

Too lazy, though.
 

Alzrius

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#16
GenocideHeart said:
It involves Negi being spirited away during the attack of the demons that his dad saved him from... by one of said demons. Specifically, a marilith, who then, in a bout of insanity, decides to raise him, just because she feels like it. After all, she reasons, she can always eat him later.

Amazingly enough, Negi grows on her and learns a fair bit of Marilith battle skills and magic - along with acquiring a rather nasty streak and a penchant to blow up if he gets mad. Eventually, he decides to seek out his relatives, if there's any. He ends up being reunited to his sisters, who survived (though not without scars). They are leery of the strange, rude woman with him, but when he says she kept him safe, they mellow a little.

A couple years or so pass, and Negi graduates, in no small part thanks to the Marilith's lessons. She still hangs around him, and might or might not have made a pactio with him. He's got a lot of animosity towards his dad for not showing up in time, but thinks it pointless to waste energy getting angry over it.

Negi's test is, once again, to teach in Japan. This time, however, he's a lot les patient than usual, has a nasty meanstreak and has a less than forgiving Greater Glaabrezu following him around and acting as a mother hen. Things will be different, indeed...
I've had some ideas about Negi and demons myself, but a marilith seems over the top (though I'm a HUGE D&D/d20/OGL fan).

For one thing, how does he learn "marilith battle skills and magic"? He can't use her battle skills, as they require six arms and a large tail. Likewise, mariliths don't use spells, they just have a suite of spell-like abilities. Likewise, mariliths aren't greater glabrezus; in fact, there are no greater glabrezus, unless you advance a normal glabrezu's natural hit dice or give it class levels. Also, she's not going to be able to disguise herself as a human, since the most recent errata removed their polymorph spell-like ability.

My version of the "Negi with demons" scenario involves him and a succubus (possibly Kia). She convinces him to make her his familiar ("Please Negi! I don't want to go back to the Abyss, it's horrible! Please, Negi-sama..."), and once he does, she starts raising all kinds of super-sexy hell.
 

GenocideHeart

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#17
Alzrius said:
GenocideHeart said:
It involves Negi being spirited away during the attack of the demons that his dad saved him from... by one of said demons. Specifically, a marilith, who then, in a bout of insanity, decides to raise him, just because she feels like it. After all, she reasons, she can always eat him later.

Amazingly enough, Negi grows on her and learns a fair bit of Marilith battle skills and magic - along with acquiring a rather nasty streak and a penchant to blow up if he gets mad. Eventually, he decides to seek out his relatives, if there's any. He ends up being reunited to his sisters, who survived (though not without scars). They are leery of the strange, rude woman with him, but when he says she kept him safe, they mellow a little.

A couple years or so pass, and Negi graduates, in no small part thanks to the Marilith's lessons. She still hangs around him, and might or might not have made a pactio with him. He's got a lot of animosity towards his dad for not showing up in time, but thinks it pointless to waste energy getting angry over it.

Negi's test is, once again, to teach in Japan. This time, however, he's a lot les patient than usual, has a nasty meanstreak and has a less than forgiving Greater Glaabrezu following him around and acting as a mother hen. Things will be different, indeed...
I've had some ideas about Negi and demons myself, but a marilith seems over the top (though I'm a HUGE D&D/d20/OGL fan).

For one thing, how does he learn "marilith battle skills and magic"? He can't use her battle skills, as they require six arms and a large tail. Likewise, mariliths don't use spells, they just have a suite of spell-like abilities. Likewise, mariliths aren't greater glabrezus; in fact, there are no greater glabrezus, unless you advance a normal glabrezu's natural hit dice or give it class levels. Also, she's not going to be able to disguise herself as a human, since the most recent errata removed their polymorph spell-like ability.

My version of the "Negi with demons" scenario involves him and a succubus (possibly Kia). She convinces him to make her his familiar ("Please Negi! I don't want to go back to the Abyss, it's horrible! Please, Negi-sama..."), and once he does, she starts raising all kinds of super-sexy hell.
Some corrections:

The only battle skill Marliths use that uses all 6 arms is Continual Attack. Both Aimed Attack and Weapon Defense require only two. Crush is also exclusive, I guess, unless Negi learns Polymorph Self.

As for magic, some Mariliths have access to Wild Magic. Though I'm not sure NNegi would want to learn something so devastating, since Wild Magic can do anything totally at random...

Anyway... Succubae can also work, as can other Tanar'ri or even figures of folklore like the Cailleach Bheare, Titania, Chu Chulainn and so on...
 

Alzrius

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GenocideHeart said:
Some corrections:

The only battle skill Marliths use that uses all 6 arms is Continual Attack. Both Aimed Attack and Weapon Defense require only two. Crush is also exclusive, I guess, unless Negi learns Polymorph Self.

As for magic, some Mariliths have access to Wild Magic. Though I'm not sure NNegi would want to learn something so devastating, since Wild Magic can do anything totally at random...

Anyway... Succubae can also work, as can other Tanar'ri or even figures of folklore like the Cailleach Bheare, Titania, Chu Chulainn and so on...
I'm guessing you're referring to First Edition AD&D (or maybe Second Edition), because that doesn't look anything like what's in my Monster Manual v.3.5. :huh:
 

GenocideHeart

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Alzrius said:
GenocideHeart said:
Some corrections:

The only battle skill Marliths use that uses all 6 arms is Continual Attack. Both Aimed Attack and Weapon Defense require only two. Crush is also exclusive, I guess, unless Negi learns Polymorph Self.

As for magic, some Mariliths have access to Wild Magic. Though I'm not sure NNegi would want to learn something so devastating, since Wild Magic can do anything totally at random...

Anyway... Succubae can also work, as can other Tanar'ri or even figures of folklore like the Cailleach Bheare, Titania, Chu Chulainn and so on...
I'm guessing you're referring to First Edition AD&D (or maybe Second Edition), because that doesn't look anything like what's in my Monster Manual v.3.5. :huh:
Yeah. So 3.5 changed things, huh? Good to know. I didn't look them up in 3.5...
 

Alzrius

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GenocideHeart said:
Yeah. So 3.5 changed things, huh? Good to know. I didn't look them up in 3.5...
Ah, well then, here you go!

But we're getting off-topic with the D&D-isms. Now I'm going to have to start working on this fic, since Israfel scares me. ;)

That said, the bit about Negi and Evangeline having something in common intrigues me. I was initially seeing their first encounter going very badly, with Negi seriously injuring Chachamaru, and Evangeline having to flee for her life. However, I think it may be better to have them forge some sort of cautious alliance. Ironically, Evangeline would probably quickly develop more feelings for Negi than she ever did for Nagi, as Negi has that darker edge that'd appeal to her more.
 
#21
Alzrius said:
Ironically, Evangeline would probably quickly develop more feelings for Negi than she ever did for Nagi, as Negi has that darker edge that'd appeal to her more.
Yes. Yes so hard.
 

Alzrius

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#22
I've been thinking about Negi and Evangeline's relationship in this fic. Specifically, I still wanted them to start out as enemies. However, I wanted to also have them become allies (and maybe more) later on. Given what a hardass Negi's going to be in this fic, that'd seem to be very difficult. The scene below (set after the climactic battle on the bridge, but before the trip to Kyoto) is the answer to that:

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The uncomfortable silence grew as Asuna, Konoka, and Chachamaru left the room. Evangeline, arms still crossed over her chest, glanced around, looking at the couch, the desk, the bedsàeverything except Negi. Finally, when the door clicked shut, she made herself meet his eyes.

It was with a centuryÆs worth of discipline that she managed not to flinch at the naked hostility she found there. He really wanted to kill herà SheÆd found it amusing before, even slightly arousing. But after coming within a hairÆs breadth of dying on the bridge, it didnÆt seem so funny anymore.

ôIf you have something to say, then say it.ö Negi snapped. His hands tightened on his wand, fighting down the urge to bring it to bear and blast the girl in front of him to pieces. He was betting sheÆd be hard-pressed to regenerate from that!

At the rebuke, Eva lowered her head, her bangs falling down over her eyes as she lowered her arms to her sides, hands clenched into fists. ôIÆmàö she trailed off. This was exactly as hard as sheÆd thought it would be.

She could sense, more than see, Negi losing patience, so she forced herself to continue. Slowly, she sank to her knees, and then leaned forward until her head was touching the floor. ôIÆm very sorry foràIÆm very sorry. Please forgive me.ö

ôàwhat?ö NegiÆs surprise was audible in his voice. He hadnÆt been too surprised to see that the little vampire had survived somehow, but this hadnÆt been at all how heÆd envisioned their next meeting. His shock lasted only a moment though, before he fell back to a more familiar emotion: anger. ôNo! Go to hell! You tried to kill me, and now you want me to just forget it happened?!ö

ôI donÆt want you to forget it; I want to be forgiven for it!ö EvangelineÆs fists were clenched so hard her knuckles were white, even as she kept her forehead to the floor submissively.

ôWell too bad!ö Negi hollered, his anger rising. ôYou donÆt get to just say æsorryÆ and have things be all okay again! Some things canÆt be fixed with just an apology!ö

ôGod damn youàö Still on her knees, Eva sat up, glaring hatefully at Negi. Though heÆd been the subject of such looks before, this one caught him fast. It wasnÆt the emotion in her eyes, but rather the tears that were coming from them that caught him where he was.

ôYouÆre just like your miserable bastard of a father,ö snarled Evangeline. ôI followed him around for months, MONTHS, wanting to b-be with himàö her voice wavered, but she forced herself to continue. ôAnd he always brushed me off, never wanting me around. And then when he got sick of that, he did this to me!ö She was shaking slightly, breathing heavier. In fifteen years of being trapped here, sheÆd never actually talked about it to anyone before. Savagely wiping her eyes, she continued.

ôIt wasnÆt just that he defeated meàhe laughed at what he did to me, he LAUGHED, andàö She couldnÆt go on, lowering her head again as she couldnÆt hold back a sob. SheÆd begged, actually begged, Nagi to love her back towards the end, just before sheÆd attacked him. HeÆd denied her utterly, and then humiliated her by cursing her and enjoying it before heÆd abandoned her completely. And now she was on her knees for his bastard of a son, asking that he change his feelings for her, and he was doing the same-

ôWhat did you have in mind?ö

ôWhat?ö Evangeline looked up, blinking fiercely.

Negi had a very uncomfortable look on his face, looking away from her. He had no idea how to deal with this. He could deal with evil; heÆd seen that up close. In black-and-white, life-or-death situations, he excelled. But thisàheÆd never even considered what it would be like if someone he thought of as evil asked to be forgiven. He wasnÆt sure what to do, but at least hearing her out couldnÆt hurt. ôYou wanted to be forgiven, right? I assume you donÆt want to just shake hands and pretend it didnÆt happen, soàwhat did you have in mind?ö

Taking a moment to rub her eyes and gather up what remained of her dignity, Evangeline stood up. ôThat we be allies.ö

Now it was NegiÆs turn to look at her directly. ôAllies?ö

Eva nodded. ôYes. WeÆll help each other out. I have a lot of spells, for battle and other things, which I can teach you.ö

NegiÆs expression was carefully neutral. ôAnd in return?ö

ôIn return you help me get rid of my curse.ö NegiÆs mouth opened, and Evangeline held up a hand to stall what she knew he was going to say. ôWithout me drinking your blood.ö

Closing his mouth, Negi was silent for a long moment. ôI need to think about it.ö

ôFine.ö Evangeline couldnÆt keep the disgust out of her voice. Not bothering to say anything else, she stalked over to the door, flinging it open and marching out, leaving Chachamaru to hurry after her.
 

Alzrius

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#23
I just wanted to mention that I posted a chapter of a Negima fic in the same continuity as this idea over in the Lemon forum. I also renamed it "Putting Away Childish Things."
 
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