Evangelion Evangelion: 3.0+1.0
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I've only seen the first Reheat of Eva and while the animation is stunning, there are some issues that I don't like. But I was along for the ride more or less.
I was slowly getting around to watching 2.2²^2 or whatever their naming convention is.
But then I saw that there was some kind of time skip thing going on along with the "Curse of Eva" that keeps the pilots young.
No, I'm sorry, Hideaki.
The shark has not only been jumped, it's been given a musical number-dream sequence and there were talks of a spin-off being optioned before it was fucked, filleted and deep-fried in cheap corn oil.
I was slowly getting around to watching 2.2²^2 or whatever their naming convention is.
But then I saw that there was some kind of time skip thing going on along with the "Curse of Eva" that keeps the pilots young.
No, I'm sorry, Hideaki.
The shark has not only been jumped, it's been given a musical number-dream sequence and there were talks of a spin-off being optioned before it was fucked, filleted and deep-fried in cheap corn oil.
Animation is IMHO fantastic in everything I've seen.
1st movie was fine except Misato being not just colder, but a icicle. I actually preferred slightly this Misato, as I always felt she came across too nice in the fan fiction as her coldness was not as blatant in the old TV series even though present. I felt things a bit rushed, though expected since the series is crushed into a few movies.
2nd movie pretty good though not as good as 1st. I found several points deliberately confusing, but interesting. Though thought the relationships seemed a bit off. I actually quite *loved* Shinji a the end of that. That whole scene with him going after Rei was a masterpiece.
3rd movie I could not even get myself to watch all the way through. I have a reasonable idea of what went down in the rest of it between AMV's and fan fiction references. Between the time skip, and the fact they laid the blame for *everything* at Shinji's feet and ignoring everything they did to get things to that point. The graphics were good but a little too wacky for my tastes.
Thus my near 0 interest in seeing more. I may or may not finish off that 3rd movie, and get the 4th, but not any time soon.
1st movie was fine except Misato being not just colder, but a icicle. I actually preferred slightly this Misato, as I always felt she came across too nice in the fan fiction as her coldness was not as blatant in the old TV series even though present. I felt things a bit rushed, though expected since the series is crushed into a few movies.
2nd movie pretty good though not as good as 1st. I found several points deliberately confusing, but interesting. Though thought the relationships seemed a bit off. I actually quite *loved* Shinji a the end of that. That whole scene with him going after Rei was a masterpiece.
3rd movie I could not even get myself to watch all the way through. I have a reasonable idea of what went down in the rest of it between AMV's and fan fiction references. Between the time skip, and the fact they laid the blame for *everything* at Shinji's feet and ignoring everything they did to get things to that point. The graphics were good but a little too wacky for my tastes.
Thus my near 0 interest in seeing more. I may or may not finish off that 3rd movie, and get the 4th, but not any time soon.
Unless, it's revealed that the 3rd movie was just dream, I don't think I'm going to bother watching the last one.
My problem with the third movie is that setting Shinji 14 years behind everyone else, all the relationship dynamics between him and the other characters are destroyed. I get that it's most likely an allegory for the EVA fan base, but story wise, I don't see how it can recover in a believable way.
My problem with the third movie is that setting Shinji 14 years behind everyone else, all the relationship dynamics between him and the other characters are destroyed. I get that it's most likely an allegory for the EVA fan base, but story wise, I don't see how it can recover in a believable way.
Setting aside allegories, it just isn't being written well. Things aren't explained so much that the only way to have any idea about what might be going on is to look up things online and characters behave stupidly even when it's not in their character to do so* so all that's left is to watch fight scenes.
*And I don't care if a certain event was in the original show, if it's detracting from the work and sends the wrong message about a character, it should go.
*And I don't care if a certain event was in the original show, if it's detracting from the work and sends the wrong message about a character, it should go.
ANIMA Evangelion is a light novel continuation of the TV story after episode 24, where Shinji denied Instrmentality, and got directly attacked for it.
Anyway, primary Evas get upgraded into awesome look, new Evas are around as well, Rei clones in various colors and ages mind linked to Rei (III), 3 year time skip, and so on.
Mari with actual cat ears is around as well.
Anyway, primary Evas get upgraded into awesome look, new Evas are around as well, Rei clones in various colors and ages mind linked to Rei (III), 3 year time skip, and so on.
Mari with actual cat ears is around as well.
To add a positive opinion to this wealth of negative ones-
I'm looking forward to seeing how Rebuild ends- I'm kind of hoping it ends on a happier note than the series did, but I have the vaguest sense that Anno is going to troll the everloving shit out of his fanbase and make the ending to the movie series 20x -worse- than the TV and manga was.
I'm looking forward to seeing how Rebuild ends- I'm kind of hoping it ends on a happier note than the series did, but I have the vaguest sense that Anno is going to troll the everloving shit out of his fanbase and make the ending to the movie series 20x -worse- than the TV and manga was.
You've just admitted that you've only watched the first one, the one closest to the TV series to boot.
That's like watching the first 6 episodes of Eva and complaining you didn't have everything laid out for you.
In Eva. EVA. The mind screw abstract psychological mehca series that, 20 years later, people are still discussing the possible interpretations of such and such a scene, how X happened and why, and what meaning the Y had in relation to the Z
I'm not going to lie and say these films are perfect.
Neither am I going to say you are wrong to find some parts lacking.
But I get the distinct feeling that people (not particularly you Raa) have heard or seen that the third film takes a shocking turn away from the TV series and are actively looking for reasons to bash it because it dared to go in a different direction.
I don't hate on it for going in a different direction, quite the opposite. I applaud it for trying to refresh itself.
What I object to is bullshit like "The Curse of Eva" where Shinji and the other pilots remain jail bait while the rest of the world moves on.
Yes, I see this as a cheap allegory for the Eva fandom, but it breaks what little suspension of disbelief that I can hold in a series. The science of the Evangelions and the Angels pushes things far enough as it is.
Perhaps it would have been better for GAINAX to not have bothered with the movies and let the series die.
Hideaki Anno is milking the blackened teats on this cash cow for as long as he can. Much more and these teats will come off in his hands and the vet will have to put the cow down.
What I object to is bullshit like "The Curse of Eva" where Shinji and the other pilots remain jail bait while the rest of the world moves on.
Yes, I see this as a cheap allegory for the Eva fandom, but it breaks what little suspension of disbelief that I can hold in a series. The science of the Evangelions and the Angels pushes things far enough as it is.
Perhaps it would have been better for GAINAX to not have bothered with the movies and let the series die.
Hideaki Anno is milking the blackened teats on this cash cow for as long as he can. Much more and these teats will come off in his hands and the vet will have to put the cow down.
I'm fairly sure the Curse is going to be a plot point - either regarding who Mari is exactly or that Evangelions are proto-gods and may be bestowing immortality as they inch their respective pilots closer to Godhood/Ascention.
If I'm wrong I'm wrong - then I may join you in the post series frustration bitch I love to indulge in.
If I'm wrong I'm wrong - then I may join you in the post series frustration bitch I love to indulge in.
Well, BD remasters of original TV series are coming next year.
So it's quite possible they might throw some more money into one of the side works, either the Raising Ikari project for a bit of light hearted things, or ANIMA for some action, though I have no idea how far along ANIMA is storywise, while Raising project recently ended.
There is also the question on how will 3.0+1.0 finish, because it might end up giving us a hook with more questions.
I mean, TV series was rather straightforward in almost everything in it, except for the somewhat vague ending, at least to me, since I don't know if people rematerialising from LCL at the end will live in a normal world with normal seas, or will they have LCL seas and pitched MP Evas everywhere or what.
As for the 3rd movie, it was a mixed bag. We were shown Gendo and Fuyutsuki mountain climbing in previews, they did none of that.
So it's quite possible they might throw some more money into one of the side works, either the Raising Ikari project for a bit of light hearted things, or ANIMA for some action, though I have no idea how far along ANIMA is storywise, while Raising project recently ended.
There is also the question on how will 3.0+1.0 finish, because it might end up giving us a hook with more questions.
I mean, TV series was rather straightforward in almost everything in it, except for the somewhat vague ending, at least to me, since I don't know if people rematerialising from LCL at the end will live in a normal world with normal seas, or will they have LCL seas and pitched MP Evas everywhere or what.
As for the 3rd movie, it was a mixed bag. We were shown Gendo and Fuyutsuki mountain climbing in previews, they did none of that.
Evangelion: Another Impact (Confidential)
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Thoughts? I note they mention that harmonisation was still zero, and were trying to force it to synch with the pilot. Shinji perhaps, the ending implies it is. Either way Unit-Null was pretty awesome, as was the video if only for it being a fun watch.
Link sort of related to the thread
Thoughts? I note they mention that harmonisation was still zero, and were trying to force it to synch with the pilot. Shinji perhaps, the ending implies it is. Either way Unit-Null was pretty awesome, as was the video if only for it being a fun watch.