Evangelion Evangelion 3.0 new info

Sdebeli

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#51
Damn, I'm looking forward to the movie but... shit is just gonna keep getting worse and worse before it ever gets better, is it?
And before anyone says it's Evangelion (shit gets worse, the anime), I know.
 

theunderbolt

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#52
Sdebeli said:
Damn, I'm looking forward to the movie but... shit is just gonna keep getting worse and worse before it ever gets better, is it?
And before anyone says it's Evangelion (shit gets worse, the anime), I know.
As long as we don't get another "CONGRATULATIONS" it should be interesting.
 

Oni_kawaii

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#53
I can almost see them doing this at the opening of the last movie just to troll us
then have shinji wake up wondering why his dream has a credits roll

Shinji: god I'm screwed up
kaworu: something wrong shinji?
Shinji: no just a bad.....Why are you in my bed?
kaworu: where else would your lover be
Shinji: AHHHHHH!

and shinji wakes up again

Asuka: Damn it shinji some of us are trying to sleep in this house!
 

Oni_kawaii

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#54
well from the sound of things the plot of the movie is Everybody Hates shinji

and no this isn't shinji being emo. he apparently is actually public enemy #1


and all he has to do to fix things is end the world.


so bets on the whole movie being shinji Hallucinating while he's in Eva 01
 

wingthesword

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#55
This has been out for a while already, it's nothing new.

I'm going to assume that everybody's already been spoilered

I mean he's got the bomb colar after all

And more evidence that Kaworu is in fact a reality traveler.
 

l3fty

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#56
It was nice to finally get to see some of it from a weird camera angle, it was easier to pick up on emotions of some of the characters, the audio recording was good just to hear some of the things without much connection to the story.


I am a bit confused about something in the movieverse, was Rei from first 2 movies Rei II or Rei I, or something.

Rei Q is, hard to feel sorry for, because she herself seems to be completely lacking any emotion whatsoever, then again, she wasn't uploaded with any memories from her predecessor at all, and before Shinji was brought in, she spent all her days just sitting in that cubicle waiting for orders, like a machine, ok, so I'm bullshitting, I feel very sorry for her and hope that she gets some love in 4th movie.

Asuka, Asuka still suffers from her sudden love interest out of nowhere syndrome, they keep on forcing her as a hard tsundere, but they forgot to actually give her time to actually interact with him to become tsundere for him in the first place. Other then that, she, suffers from unexplainable character development.

Shinji, Shinji is just asking a few simple questions and no one wants to answer him clearly on those few questions, hillariously that is the biggest reason why 4th Impact is a go, because people are shit at communicating.

Misato became even more of a badass, but due to Shinji getting snatched she didn't have time to get some Shinji time, maybe she will during 4th movie.

That pink haired bitch pisses me off hard.

Sakura is adorable, then again, I sorta like short girls, they somehow have fun personalities, unlike the average ones, tall girls are fun too.

Beast configuration 777 was awesome, Asuka in beast mode was even more awesome.

Wunder was actually waiting for Unit 01 to be it's core to be fully operational? That might end up pants on retarded later on :D. It's an awesome ship though.

Gendo is pulling some epic evil badassery in this movie, building Eva 13 from scraps, making long term plans that include interruptions.
 

l3fty

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#58
She is pretty much the same as ever, teases Asuka about her doggy, throws around comments that make you wonder who she actually is in the story, not to mention suspicious person in that one picture of Yui with some people.
 

Prince Charon

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#59
Speculation that I will find very amusing, if it turns out to be true: All three movies so far have been Shinji (or someone else) hallucinating, and Mari is a manifestation of that person's subconscious.
 

l3fty

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#60
Movie is out in 3.33 dvd/bd version, first 11 minutes is some mini movie called God Warrior or something, narrated by Reis VA, at first I thought it was part of the actual movieverse, maybe it is considering the whole 3rd movie.

Lold at S.Ikari?? writing on his left foot, raged again at the pink monstrousity on the Eva Ship bridge, Maya is adorable, Misato is a hardcore badass, Reis origins in movieverse seem to be different, need more precise translations of that part, CGI went into hard cheap mode, blocks upon blocks upon blocks of it.
 

Ashaman

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#61
l3fty said:
Movie is out in 3.33 dvd/bd version, first 11 minutes is some mini movie called God Warrior or something, narrated by Reis VA, at first I thought it was part of the actual movieverse, maybe it is considering the whole 3rd movie.

Lold at S.Ikari?? writing on his left foot, raged again at the pink monstrousity on the Eva Ship bridge, Maya is adorable, Misato is a hardcore badass, Reis origins in movieverse seem to be different, need more precise translations of that part, CGI went into hard cheap mode, blocks upon blocks upon blocks of it.
Damn it Shinji!

How are you so rage inducingly stupid yet so stupidly sympathetic?
 

shiki

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#62
Oh heck, did they retcon where the Ikari name comes from. Darn, I really liked the original way lots more.

First time I have watched it in it's entirety.

Out of the 3 that has been released, it is the least enjoyable. So it clearly suffers from trilogy syndrome after the high point that the 2nd one reached. Here is hoping the last one will be awesome.

Also that ending, hmm... Utada Hikaru?
 

l3fty

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#63
They steered away from the TV series from the start, remember that Zeruel got earmarked as 4th angel, 2 others also got shafted, namely the orbital mental one along with the quick re, no wait, not 15, there were 17, so they lowered the number by 4, which means lava, fast evolution one, orbital mental beamer and the energy whip one, while the rest were pretty much the same or completely different to their counterparts, the most important ones were pretty much the same.

If I squint real hard, I can sorta call that middle empty part of the movie as a very irritatingly slow synchonization training, with zero encouragement from the peanut gallery, infact, quite the opposite, what with all the suffering and horror and breakdowns.

I wonder if the ships entry plug works same as the Eva one, namely if the crew does everything mentally while the controls serve as props.

The way they are going 4th movie will be fully animated in cheap CGI with xbox hueg lego blocks for objects.
 

BlackSun

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#65
There´s a fansub of the BD rip available for those who care.
 

DhampyrX2

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#66
So how many reloads do we get before they say screw it and give us an actual happy ending?
 

shiki

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#67
We will never get a happy ending. Even the lighter, softer reload that we got at the start of the movies is going down the EoE route.

The happiest ending that we got is the TV end and that is the best we can hope for because of Anno. Guy pokes fun at EVA fans and enjoys it way too much to give anyone happy ends.

Curse of Eva and 14 years were more than just throwaway comments and a random number.

Also, in retrospect, changing Yui's maiden name to Ayanami gives some credence to the conspiracy theorists about the importance of the "-nami" and their clone type idea.
 

Prince Charon

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#68
Reload Gendo is TV series Shinji. Reload Yui is TV series Rei.

There's at least one fic that uses that.
 

Zephyrus

Searching for the six-fingered man.
#69
What the fuck did I just watch? Like, seriously. I haven't seen anything that messed up since EoE.
 

MnemoD

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#70
So, having just watched 3.33...

WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST WATCH? Did they bother to explain ANYTHING?! FUCK NO! HOLY SHIT, IT WAS AWESOME, BUT EoE MADE MORE SENSE!

That said, holy fuck the movie was one gigantic epic scene. Although they could've cut half the content and made it, I don't know, make sense. A lot of it was egregious (The transformation sequences mostly. With an estimate, they could've shaved off 15 mins in that alone.)
 

Ashaman

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#71
Most of it is intuitive, but I'm still surprised so many people are apparently as completely lost as they are.

I mean, I didn't get everything, but still...

What didn't you guys get?
 

MnemoD

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#72
Ashaman said:
Most of it is intuitive, but I'm still surprised so many people are apparently as completely lost as they are.

I mean, I didn't get everything, but still...

What didn't you guys get?
Spoiler Alert

Why the fuck did they skip forward 14 years? What is "The Curse of Eva" besides a plot device to make it so Asuka, and Mari haven't aged. Why did Misato pull a complete 480-720-1080.... Better yet, what the hell did Shinji do (You know, besides inadvertently trigger Third Impact with having a spine for once (HOO BOY)), the hell happened to Keel and the rest of SEELE... WHERE DID THE SECOND LANCE COME FROM!?

What is there -to- get? What the -fuck- happened in that movie?
 

Ashaman

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#73
IWhoWouldLoveHerForever said:
Ashaman said:
Most of it is intuitive, but I'm still surprised so many people are apparently as completely lost as they are.

I mean, I didn't get everything, but still...

What didn't you guys get?
Spoiler Alert

Why the fuck did they skip forward 14 years? What is "The Curse of Eva" besides a plot device to make it so Asuka, and Mari haven't aged. Why did Misato pull a complete 480-720-1080.... Better yet, what the hell did Shinji do (You know, besides inadvertently trigger Third Impact with having a spine for once (HOO BOY)), the hell happened to Keel and the rest of SEELE... WHERE DID THE SECOND LANCE COME FROM!?

What is there -to- get? What the -fuck- happened in that movie?
Why the skip? Because it allows plenty of time for the events depicted in Eva 2.22 preview to occur, plus character development/character change. Seriously though, that's like asking why time flows in a story.

As for curse of Eva - besides the not aging bit, it also induces more sympathy for Asuka/Mari and Shinji as they are now stuck at 14 - There is also the possibility it'll come into play with Mari in the future. Also, it fucks with Shinji.

Misato? I don't understand, though I'd have to guess its about Misato turning on Shinji somewhat - but you already explained that with the Shinji causing Third Impact/enabling Third Impact and therefore nearly ending the world/ killing potentially billions of people for his own selfish desires which she probably didn't know about when she was egging Shinji on, which would instil bitter feelings, guilt and self loathing. I could also point out that Misato didn't pull the trigger on the Collar when she had the chance, so at least some of her feelings were hidden/faked and she still cared about him. I must also point out that Shinji has the potential to Awaken an EVA and trigger Fourth Impact, another world ending scenario.

The Second Lance - I can only theorize that either the Lance of ???? (I can't remember the name, but the Lance that isn't Longinus) that was used to defeat the 12th Angel/Eva MRK. 6 transformed into a second Lance of Longinus, Kaworu was mistaken on what happened in the Chamber or that Gendo Switched them somehow - As for where it came from originally... Unless my Lore is off, didn't Kaworu come down at the end of 2.22 with a Spear that wasn't Longinus?

As for SEELE - I can't be sure on this one, but I think they thought Fourth Impact would lead to Instrumentality and, ahem, prepared themselves for it - In a rather permanent and fatal way. I might be wrong on it though. Either way, Gendo basically played them.

But I don't think any of that really matters to you because I'm pretty sure (and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) that it's not that the events of the film confuse you in and of themselves, but rather you don't like the direction the film took.

Why did the Time Skip happen? Cause Shinji was trapped inside Unit 01 for 14 years, and we see everything from his perspective, that's why.
 
#74
I will freely admit that I am most certainly not fond of the direction this movie has taken the story...and to be honest, I felt that way ever since Toji was switched out for Asuka in the last movie. The ending of 2.0 showed promise, but yet again Shinji has been slapped down the moment there was any hint of character development. And this time, he got the idiot ball as a consolation prize.
 

shiki

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#75
You guys totally missed what the 14 years and Curse of Eva meant. Like I said,

shiki said:
Curse of Eva and 14 years were more than just throwaway comments and a random number.
Hell, I all but spelled it out that it was a call back to EoE and that it was a shot at the Eva fandom. If you had seen EoE, it should have been one of the first things that came to mind. After I finished watching, the 14 year connections (the time frame in which the anime was aired and when 3.0 came out in Japan and the time period from Adam in Antarctica to when the 3rd appears) and the Curse of Eva (call back to one of Misato's scenes in EoE ) with Aono's penchant at poking fun at fans made it obvious that it was a backhanded joke about fans.

As for the overall tone and direction of the movie, it was great. All they did was translate the original events into rebuild. They did a great job at deconstructing and rebuilding Shinji's reaction after the loss of Rei, the distance from Asuka, and the homoerotic need based relationship with Kowaru. It was a bit overdone in comparison to the original TV arc but it got the job done well enough to set up the ending.

Despite that, it is still the weakest installment.
 
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