Evangelion [Evangelion] Miscellaneous ideas topic.

alucard964

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Rabe said:
Herdo said:
Gendo Ikari and Ragyō Kiryūin have a baby together, who is given the name Shinji Ikari.

They'll do their best to earn the prestigious award "Worst parents in the world" when they raise him.
Just what the boy needs, more big sisters
yeah but at least satsuki is a badass
 
alucard964 said:
Rabe said:
Herdo said:
Gendo Ikari and Ragyō Kiryūin have a baby together, who is given the name Shinji Ikari.

They'll do their best to earn the prestigious award "Worst parents in the world" when they raise him.
Just what the boy needs, more big sisters
yeah but at least satsuki is a badass
Depends on the version of Shinji, he's much more bad ass in Rebuild.

"I want Rei... GIVE HER BACK!"
 

FinalMax

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Remember, Rebuild had that "Badass Shinji" moment as more of a Take That against most of the people who think that the series is "saved" if he was a badass. Turns out badasses make things worse, sometimes.
 

PCHeintz72

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FinalMax said:
Remember, Rebuild had that "Badass Shinji" moment as more of a Take That against most of the people who think that the series is "saved" if he was a badass. Turns out badasses make things worse, sometimes.
I have not liked rebuild past the 2nd installment... I'll rarely talk about it, rarely read it in fan fiction stories, prefer to avoid it when see it in advance.

Sad, as I was actually happy when the first came out. As I always thought Misato in canon TV and fan fiction was viewed too nicely, she is IMHO not really as nice as it seems, at least to me. Ritsuko I felt was more open in her treatment of the kids, but not really any better or worse than Misato (fan fiction treats Ritsuko far worse than Misato in my mind). Both were damaged characters, both could have been better, but neither were evil incarnate. Both had a hand in pushing Shinji initially into Unit 1.

However, while I actually approve of most of what was done to the character of Shinji in rebuild, how he was treated later by Misato and others was if anything even worse than I thought it should have been. Far overshadowing any delight I had in the reimaged Misato.

The only other annoyance was the change of Asuka's name, I cannot wrap my head around that name change. But this is easily overlooked mentally by me.

And these nitwits blaming him and only him for their woes prove just how brain dead the characters are when they did not tell him *anything* that he would have needed to know to avoid the problems that occurred... They should damn well just turn that eagerly pointing finger around and point it at themselves...
 

Rabe

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FinalMax said:
Remember, Rebuild had that "Badass Shinji" moment as more of a Take That against most of the people who think that the series is "saved" if he was a badass. Turns out badasses make things worse, sometimes.
Not really, there wasn't a better case for that fight, what Shinji did do ensured there would be people to hate him.

Turns out badasses ensure there are at least survivors. ungrateful hateful fucks tho they might be.
 
Ah, no. Shinji started Third Impact in Rebuild, several Angels earlier at that. Those survivors are because 01 was stabbed with The Lance to stop Third Impact in progress.

The better case for that fight is original cannon, where Shinji just gets absorbed for a month or so without turning half of the world's population into tang.

I'll give you losing the fight could've ended up with a full impact in theory, but given how quickly 01 is stabbed implies that someone was on overwatch in the first place.
 

nixofcyzerra

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If you're piloting a bio-mechanical war machine that can potentially start an apocalypse, you should probably be told that it can do that, so you know to avoid it all cost.
 

MnemoD

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PCHeintz72 said:
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And these nitwits blaming him and only him for their woes prove just how brain dead the characters are when they did not tell him *anything* that he would have needed to know to avoid the problems that occurred... They should damn well just turn that eagerly pointing finger around and point it at themselves...
If you're piloting a bio-mechanical war machine that can potentially start an apocalypse, you should probably be told that it can do that, so you know to avoid it all cost.
That would make sense. This is Evangelion, you newbs.
 

PCHeintz72

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IWhoWouldLoveHerForever said:
That would make sense. This is Evangelion, you newbs.
Doesn't matter, they knew, and they did not tell him, thus blame lies with them, no matter how they want to justify it, or offload their own guilt... the fault is theirs, not his.
 

nixofcyzerra

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Exactly. They send an untrained 14-year old into battle and expect him to obey orders perfectly, while not giving any sort of explanation for said orders, or what the consequences of not following some of those orders could be. While it does make a disturbing amount of sense in-universe that Shinji would be blamed, from a meta, reader perspective, we can place the blame firmly with the brass.

The things is, Evangelion was supposed to be a deconstruction of the Super Robot genre, right? As in, "this is what happens when you actually throw a rookie 14-year old into a cockpit."

But it seems to be more and more like it's actually a "this is what happens when you actually throw a rookie 14-year old into a cockpit... and mission control is useless, incompetent, and corrupt" sort of deal.
 

PCHeintz72

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Not to be misunderstood. I fully understand why story wise, Shinji is blamed for everything, and for sure Shinji is not looking at it from the standpoint that it is really all their fault.

For from someone on the outside watching or reading it... not a chance in the world will I believe it, or condone/allow it. And it eats away and any liking I can take of the rebuild universe.
 

Lord Raa

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PCHeintz72 said:
Not to be misunderstood. I fully understand why story wise, Shinji is blamed for everything, and for sure Shinji is not looking at it from the standpoint that it is really all their fault.

For from someone on the outside watching or reading it... not a chance in the world will I believe it, or condone/allow it. And it eats away and any liking I can take of the rebuild universe.
Rebuild has one thing to like.

Misato has better taste in underwear:



There could be others, but they would be subjective and this is the one thing that I think we can all agree on.
 

Sdebeli

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Lord Raa said:
PCHeintz72 said:
Not to be misunderstood. I fully understand why story wise, Shinji is blamed for everything, and for sure Shinji is not looking at it from the standpoint that it is really all their fault.

For from someone on the outside watching or reading it... not a chance in the world will I believe it, or condone/allow it. And it eats away and any liking I can take of the rebuild universe.
Rebuild has one thing to like.

Misato has better taste in underwear:



There could be others, but they would be subjective and this is the one thing that I think we can all agree on.
Lord Raa, a man of priorities.
 

Prince Charon

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FinalMax said:
Remember, Rebuild had that "Badass Shinji" moment as more of a Take That against most of the people who think that the series is "saved" if he was a badass. Turns out badasses make things worse, sometimes.
Yeah, but in that instance, he only made things worse because the narrative was designed so that that would occur, not because he did something stupid to be badass.
 

Antimatter

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Probably mentioned before but...

Official Evangelion transformers toys are coming:

I09 article

The Angels are invading. Breaking a long silence, the mysterious life-forms known as the Angels suddenly appear. The weapons the UN forces gather together in retaliation can't even scratch them. In the end, they turn to the secret agency, NERV, to manage the anti-Angel strategy.

With Neo-Tokyo 3 in their sights, the Angels slowly advance upon the city...but suddenly a spaceship comes hurtling down from the sky above the Angels: the Sky Lynx! Out of the ship emerges warriors of the far-off planet Cybertron. They've come to investigate after noticing an unusual energy reading.

"We can't let a disaster like the Second Impact occur on this planet."
"What?! What are these monsters?!"

The shocked Cybertron convoy sets its sights on an enemy much bigger than themselves.
Tell me, which one of you magnificent bastards wrote this story setup?
 

PCHeintz72

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Rising Dragon said:
ClassicCowboy wrote an Evangelion/Transformers crossover once...
Ehhh... there have been a bunch over the years of NGE and transformers. I've yet to see one that is good.

The most eye bleeding one has to be one I read off mediaminer way back... megatron gets sucked into the NGE dimension, turned into a human, has a jacket with decepticon patches, it is during the Eva wars, decides he needs a girlfriend (I never did get that part, not sure want to), that Rei Ayonami gets nominated for the spot, and after hooking up with her he affectionately calls her Flesh Bag.

I kid you not, that was the plot.


EDIT: There used to exist out there, a author that thought *anything* could be crossed with Transformers and it would make for a good story. I *think* his name was Fanboyus Prime, or something along those lines.
 

FinalMax

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I thought I successfully repressed the memories of that stuff, PCHeintz. I've seen some of Fanboyimus Prime's weirdness, and god that guys shit was weird. And I also remember a bit of that one eyebleedingly bad NGE/Transformers fic you mentioned.
 

PCHeintz72

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FinalMax said:
I thought I successfully repressed the memories of that stuff, PCHeintz. I've seen some of Fanboyimus Prime's weirdness, and god that guys shit was weird. And I also remember a bit of that one eyebleedingly bad NGE/Transformers fic you mentioned.
Some things cannot be forgotten. Thought I admit, the exact name of that story or its author escape me and have been lost to time, even if the story plot has not. It *might* have made it were it a crack fic, but that thing was meant to be serious and was some 6-7 chapters (at least that was where at when I stopped reading it).

As for Fanboyimus Prime (thanks, the spelling escaped me when making last post)... is that author even still around? The obsession with crossing transformers with anything and it be good seriously warped his thinking, which was probably the point. Meh, I liked transformers, at least the 80s ones (beast wars/machines I thought sucked though), and even the movies were not bad per se... But I could hardly accept some of the wacky crosses proposed over the years by that guy.

My issue is my few forays into Transformers fanfiction over the years left me extremely distressed... There was at the times of my searches extremely disturbing stories out there.

- Star scream being ordered by megatron to kidnap a girl to understand dating, so he does it by putting a note in the girls locker to lure her to some elaborate trap

- Megatron and Optimus being ordered to attend marriage counciling sessions...

- Megatron being upset at being dumped by optimus so decides to sing a song....

The pain....


Oddly, about the best I ever read was a Ranma Decepticon crossover that was aborted at three chapters and took place some 6 months after the 2007 movie. Made by Driver Jim Ohki, but has since been removed. Ranma buys a car that happens to be a down on his luck decepticon looking for reform.

Second best crossover I ever read goes to a Transformers Tenchi Muyo crossover.
 

Antimatter

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You know, after reading the scene in that strip poker lemon, I keep having thoughts for a crack fic where shiniji actually had this amazingly epic pre-series life, reveled to the reader by the folks who just seem to suddenly show up at his doorstep, meet him in school, to the dumbfounded stares of his classmates and roommates.

The one that first came to mine was, of all people, Sagat from street fighter. Because why not.
 

PCHeintz72

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Antimatter said:
You know, after reading the scene in that strip poker lemon, I keep having thoughts for a crack fic where shiniji actually had this amazingly epic pre-series life, reveled to the reader by the folks who just seem to suddenly show up at his doorstep, meet him in school, to the dumbfounded stares of his classmates and roommates.

The one that first came to mine was, of all people, Sagat from street fighter. Because why not.
Wasn't that done by Lord Raa... actually, I can think of several, though that came to mind first.
 

Antimatter

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PCHeintz72 said:
Antimatter said:
You know, after reading the scene in that strip poker lemon, I keep having thoughts for a crack fic where shiniji actually had this amazingly epic pre-series life, reveled to the reader by the folks who just seem to suddenly show up at his doorstep, meet him in school, to the dumbfounded stares of his classmates and roommates.

The one that first came to mine was, of all people, Sagat from street fighter. Because why not.
Wasn't that done by Lord Raa... actually, I can think of several, though that came to mind first.
What, random character cameo backstory, or shinji as a street fighter?
 

PCHeintz72

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Antimatter said:
PCHeintz72 said:
Antimatter said:
You know, after reading the scene in that strip poker lemon, I keep having thoughts for a crack fic where shiniji actually had this amazingly epic pre-series life, reveled to the reader by the folks who just seem to suddenly show up at his doorstep, meet him in school, to the dumbfounded stares of his classmates and roommates.

The one that first came to mine was, of all people, Sagat from street fighter. Because why not.
Wasn't that done by Lord Raa... actually, I can think of several, though that came to mind first.
What, random character cameo backstory, or shinji as a street fighter?
Ehhh... mostly "where shiniji actually had this amazingly epic pre-series life,"

4 total came to mind:

'I Can't Believe It's Not 15 IBRC Certification' came first to mind in that regard. Next was a interesting one where he was a famous erotic comic artist.

As for him being a fighter some Ranma crossovers came to mind. Like 'Neon Genesis Evangelion Honor's Duty' by JJ Corley and 'The Picture of the Tragic Hero' by Andrew Aelfwine. Note those two are *not* Ranma replaces Shinji, but Shinji trained to be a Nerima class Martial Artist.

There are a couple others, but those were the first ones to come to mind.
 

Lord Raa

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I was struck by an idea in the week.

I was watching Rick and Morty and I thought, there might be one or two parallels here between the titular Rick and Morty and Gendo and Shinji.

What I'm thinking, if thinking is the correct term here, is that Gendo is the amoral genius who is running around doing the super-science and he just so happens to need a sidekick.

And why not have Shinji in the Morty role? They're both 14; not that academic; insecure most of the time, but brave when the writing situation calls for it.

If you ask me, they match up quite well.

Could throw in a rival super-scientist or two to keep Gendo on his toes/in his place and it could generate a few laughs.


I might even see if I can unleash a few hundred words to set the scene to see how this goes.....
 
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