Exalted Idea

Aranfan

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#1
So Chejob Kejak walks into a bar to get shitfaced after another day of trying to keep Creation from imploding. No sooner does he sit down then a drunk off his ass Lytek start ranting at him about the Great Curse. A quick use of Charms shows Lytek to be telling the truth.


What happens from here?
 

Ryuugi

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#2
What does the Great Curse change from Kejak's point of view? Little to nothing. The guy was willing to kill millions (including Sidereal's who disagreed) and leave Creation in a diminished state to kill the Solar's.

That they may have a reason for their action amounts to little.

Besides which; would he believe it? Sidereal hubris will probably screw over Creation again.

If he does believe it, and actually give a damn, he'll probably call a meeting of the Sidereal's, in which case Sidereal hubris will definitely screw over creation.
 

Aranfan

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#3
A secret known by that many people isn't going to stay secret very long.
 

FH_Meta

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#5
To be perfectly fair, Lytek would need to be far beyond drunk off his ass.

To him, the Curse getting out is tanamount to becoming replaced/usurped/starmetal.

And Kejack would try and fix the Curse. He may not have been enough of a hero to try the third option, but he was and still is a hero.

The question is what's the bad decision.
 

Cornuthaum

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#6
I still don't understand why he would get starmetal'd for something that HE HAS ABSOLUTELY NO CONTROL OVER.

The Great Curse comes from the GODDAMN PRIMORDIALS. Beings of power so far above even Sol Invictus that someone like Lytek is but a slave in comparison.

I really hate Heaven's bureaucracy in Exalted. >_<

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Although it would be funny to see the faces of the Sids when they realize that them grouping together is what really sets off their GC.

And THEN some of the Bronze faction oldtimers would look back and realize WHY they were so sure of their opinions back then.

Not that it would change anything - they believe they did the right thing, and maybe they did.
 

drakensis

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#7
Setting aside the fact of the Universe's ultimate workaholic getting shitfaced in a bar (seriously, Chejop takes maybe half-an-hour off a millem

Chejop's first reaction would probably be satisfaction. He championed the Bronze Faction because he was convinced that there was something deeply wrong with the Solar Exalted. And Lytek just confirmed that. Take that, Gold Faction!

His second reaction would be: this explains why all the younger Sidereals are unable to keep things going without my oversight. They're affected by this Great Curse. I was right, everything will fall apart without me. I'm probably the only Exalt with enough control to have resisted this.

And then:

'I'd better keep this a secret.' Looks over at Lytek. 'Hmm. Need to make sure he doesn't spread this around. Time for some new blood as God of Exaltation.'
 

lord geryon

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#8
drakensis said:
Setting aside the fact of the Universe's ultimate workaholic getting shitfaced in a bar (seriously, Chejop takes maybe half-an-hour off a millem

Chejop's first reaction would probably be satisfaction. He championed the Bronze Faction because he was convinced that there was something deeply wrong with the Solar Exalted. And Lytek just confirmed that. Take that, Gold Faction!

His second reaction would be: this explains why all the younger Sidereals are unable to keep things going without my oversight. They're affected by this Great Curse. I was right, everything will fall apart without me. I'm probably the only Exalt with enough control to have resisted this.

And then:

'I'd better keep this a secret.' Looks over at Lytek. 'Hmm. Need to make sure he doesn't spread this around. Time for some new blood as God of Exaltation.'
Lol, Chejok Kejak, GC posterboy.
 

Cornuthaum

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#9
drakensis, this is not entirely untrue (and "a few hours every millenium" could be conveniently placed, you know...), but IF Lytek were desperate enough to tell anyone about the GC, I am positively sure that he would include hammer-like words to drive it even into the thickest skull that all Celestial Exalts are affected by the GC.

Not that Chejop would believe him - at this point, I am pretty sure that he can't, since the GC isn't nice - but still, it would give the old man (who gets too much flak for his actions) something to think about the next time he Limit Breaks.
 

drakensis

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#10
Chejop's primary virtue is either Temperance or Conviction, and almost certainly the latter (according to the great wall o' text, aka Lords of Creation, these were his highest virtues so one must be primary). In fairness, he's pretty much built his life around following his own convictions so he's unlikely to go against it very often. Of course, since any study of the Curse would pretty much entail considering that he might be wrong...

When his limit breaks... as Chosen of Secrets he'd want to make use of the secrets he knows. That could get very messy.
 

Cornuthaum

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#11
Dreams of the First Age's Lords of Creation gives us:

Chejop Kejak
Limit Break: Oracle's Flawed Fate
Virtues: Compassion 3, Conviction 4, Temperance 4, Valor 3
Charms: More charms than you can shake a half-dozen dragonblooded masters at.

MoEP: Sidereals gives us fluff, but no stats.

So, make of it what you want. :)
 

lord geryon

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#12
Cornuthaum said:
Dreams of the First Age's Lords of Creation gives us:

Chejop Kejak
Limit Break: Oracle's Flawed Fate
Virtues: Compassion 3, Conviction 4, Temperance 4, Valor 3
Charms: More charms than you can shake a half-dozen dragonblooded masters at.

MoEP: Sidereals gives us fluff, but no stats.

So, make of it what you want. :)
Out of curiosity, where are the Sidereal limits described? I cannot find them in the 2e splat.
 

Cornuthaum

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#13
lord geryon said:
Cornuthaum said:
Dreams of the First Age's Lords of Creation gives us:

Chejop Kejak
Limit Break: Oracle's Flawed Fate
Virtues: Compassion 3, Conviction 4, Temperance 4, Valor 3
Charms: More charms than you can shake a half-dozen dragonblooded masters at.

MoEP: Sidereals gives us fluff, but no stats.

So, make of it what you want. :)
Out of curiosity, where are the Sidereal limits described? I cannot find them in the 2e splat.
I couldn't find them either. I trust that drakensis, using his Glorious Solar Magician's Hat, has some way to pull out a bunny/source, though. :)
 

lord geryon

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#14
Cornuthaum said:
lord geryon said:
Cornuthaum said:
Dreams of the First Age's Lords of Creation gives us:

Chejop Kejak
Limit Break: Oracle's Flawed Fate
Virtues: Compassion 3, Conviction 4, Temperance 4, Valor 3
Charms: More charms than you can shake a half-dozen dragonblooded masters at.

MoEP: Sidereals gives us fluff, but no stats.

So, make of it what you want. :)
Out of curiosity, where are the Sidereal limits described? I cannot find them in the 2e splat.
I couldn't find them either. I trust that drakensis, using his Glorious Solar Magician's Hat, has some way to pull out a bunny/source, though. :)
Well, I supposed I should clarify... I know about the Flawed Fates, but it's actual limit breaks I'm looking for.

Although, given my reading of Flawed Fates, it seems to me that Sidereals can't have actual limit breaks, since the FF is triggered by limit.

Which then begs the question... why did they give Chejop a limit break?
 

drakensis

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#15
book reference: pg. 118-9 MoEP:Sidereal. Under the heading Flawed Fates.

Sidereals gain limit when they spend willpower to resist their primary virtue, resists unnatural mental influence or affects her own fate counter to her primary virtue. The latter is the most damaging and is multiplied when in large groups (6 or more) of Sidereals. When limit reaches 10 they must follow their Flawed Fate

Oracles is simply a term for the Chosen of Jupiter (Chejop's caste) so he shares the same Flawed Fate of all Chosen of Secrets: to advocate, seek or cause the wielding of their most powerful secrets.

Page 119 includes description of how these Flawed Fates influenced the Great Convocation that led to the Usurpation.
 

Cornuthaum

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#17
drakensis said:
book reference: pg. 118-9 MoEP:Sidereal. Under the heading Flawed Fates.

Sidereals gain limit when they spend willpower to resist their primary virtue, resists unnatural mental influence or affects her own fate counter to her primary virtue. The latter is the most damaging and is multiplied when in large groups (6 or more) of Sidereals. When limit reaches 10 they must follow their Flawed Fate

Oracles is simply a term for the Chosen of Jupiter (Chejop's caste) so he shares the same Flawed Fate of all Chosen of Secrets: to advocate, seek or cause the wielding of their most powerful secrets.

Page 119 includes description of how these Flawed Fates influenced the Great Convocation that led to the Usurpation.
I actually have that page opened before me and still missed it until I read that post.

that part of the book gotta be victim of Arcane Fate -.-"
 
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