Nasuverse Fate/Late

Nasuren

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#1
Ever had a idea that blew up into something new? I had one....
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One inch. One second. One mistake. A single thing can change alot.

Due to a small change that happened at the end of the last war, Kiritsugu Emiya's attempt to stop the Grail war ended up buying an extra five years before the next one.

Instead of ten years like canon, fifteen has past. The teenagers in canon are now grown up and much that shouldn't have changed has.

In one house, a man who usually dreams about swords will dream of fire, unknowingly noticing that the flames are threatening to return and devour that which he has built.

A heir returns from time away, entering danger yet bringing more danger than even she realizes.

The shadows of the Matou could only grow darker in the extra years. It now hides a secret that could destroy both the Emiya and Tohsaka households.

Watching all of this, a priest can only laugh in expectation of what's to come.

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I think I over did it a bit.

Basically this is a 'what if' scenario which pushes how far things can change with a few extra years between the fourth and fifth war.

An example would be that Rin never found out that Shirou was a Magi in high school, nor would she found out the Matou's treatment of Sakura. Her school days went peacefully by before she went to London for a few years to study. Personality wise, she's still similar to her canon counterpart with the exception of a shorter fuse temper wise.

In turn, Shirou didn't learn how to properly use his Magic Circuits from her. If it wasn't for a certain event, he'd still be using his nervous system to pratice Magecraft.

Should I run with this or dump it?
 

grant

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#3
I'd leave out the 'fate' part. Way too many titles use it. Simply 'Late' would be better.
 

Nasuren

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#4
grant said:
I'd leave out the 'fate' part. Way too many titles use it. Simply 'Late' would be better.
I'll consider it, but looks too short to me. Might change it to something like Five Years Late...

Snippet removed for rewritting and/or trashing.
 

Vanigo

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#5
Dude. Some authors erratically bounce from past tense to present tense, and that's terrible. You're bouncing between first person and third person. That's something you usually only see in trollfics.
 

Nasuren

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#6
Vanigo said:
Dude. Some authors erratically bounce from past tense to present tense, and that's terrible. You're bouncing between first person and third person. That's something you usually only see in trollfics.
It was originally made for third person until I was forced to switch it over to first person to iron out the details.

Yup, I was right, it completely sucks....
 

zeebee1

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#7
If Rin doesn't kill at least one master by the second day then she's a failure by the standards of modern magi.
 

Nasuren

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#8
zeebee1 said:
If Rin doesn't kill at least one master by the second day then she's a failure by the standards of modern magi.
If she did, then the HGW will be a failure by Murphy's standards. There's only a few things I know I will do at this point, but everything I have planned out? Ten more years wouldn't help to deal with some of the stuff that I planned to happen.

Rin will get enough of a power up from those five years to make her more of a threat, but considering that she had the happiest five years where the only interesting things was bumping into Zelretch and being mysteriously saved after falling from the London Tower? She hasn't grown as much as others.

Still, she might get her first chance to kill one during the first night...
 

zeebee1

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#9
If Shirou went down the same path magically speaking then there would be some fiarly obvious parallels to Archer. Also, why would he be there. He should be running around the planet saving people by then.
 

Prince Charon

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#10
zeebee1 said:
If Shirou went down the same path magically speaking then there would be some fiarly obvious parallels to Archer. Also, why would he be there. He should be running around the planet saving people by then.
Maybe he's back home for a vacation, or maybe Zouken or Kotomine (or maybe Gil, but he might be less likely) made one little mistake, that has Shirou aware that there's possibly a supervillain in his home town.

... or, he gets the seals, and either some magus he works with tells him about them, or the Grail realizes that the only way to get him back to Fuyuki in time for the War is to throw Saber at him, first.
 

Nasuren

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#11
Actually, he would still be living there. During the week that the Grail war was supposed to happened, something else occurred. It wasn't magic related at the time nor did it change Shirou's perspective that much, but it would start a series of events that would. He still dabbles in Freelancer work, but he actually has a more mundane job in Fuyuki that he prefers.

Magic wise, he's still Shirou. His magic at this point seem like a weaker version of Archer's at first look. He's still not capable of going 'toe-to-toe' in a fair fight with at servant, unlike Archer, but he does have a few tricks up his sleeve...
 

zeebee1

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#12
Of course he can't go toe to toe with a servant. There are only a couple magic users who could and most of them have a true magic.
 

Cherry_lover

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#13
zeebee1 said:
If Shirou went down the same path magically speaking then there would be some fiarly obvious parallels to Archer. Also, why would he be there. He should be running around the planet saving people by then.
Without the Grail War, Shirou wouldn't know anything about his abilities so he wouldn't be able to run around saving people....
 

Prince Charon

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#14
Cherry_lover said:
zeebee1 said:
If Shirou went down the same path magically speaking then there would be some fiarly obvious parallels to Archer. Also, why would he be there. He should be running around the planet saving people by then.
Without the Grail War, Shirou wouldn't know anything about his abilities so he wouldn't be able to run around saving people....
Well, he wouldn't know nearly as much, but if the Archer in the 5HF that EMIYA fought in when he was Shirou had an Archer who wasn't EMIYA (which I'm told it didn't), the Shirou who became EMIYA would have had to develop his abilities all on his own, slowly over time.
 

Cherry_lover

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#15
Prince Charon said:
Cherry_lover said:
zeebee1 said:
If Shirou went down the same path magically speaking then there would be some fiarly obvious parallels to Archer. Also, why would he be there. He should be running around the planet saving people by then.
Without the Grail War, Shirou wouldn't know anything about his abilities so he wouldn't be able to run around saving people....
Well, he wouldn't know nearly as much, but if the Archer in the 5HF that EMIYA fought in when he was Shirou had an Archer who wasn't EMIYA (which I'm told it didn't), the Shirou who became EMIYA would have had to develop his abilities all on his own, slowly over time.
Yes, but even then he would have had help from Rin. This Shirou would have had nothing.
 

Nasuren

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#16
The Shirou in my fic might have a little help. Not dedicated like Rin, but a little help. Consider who it is, I curious as if it could be called help...
 
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