Nasuverse Fate/Stay Updates

[SoftRogue]

Plus, if Minaka still wants to be a part of the family, it would probably seem like a good way in: Shirou and his Sekirei are under attack by whoever CT sends, when who comes to the rescue but the Disciplinary Squad.

The way I see it, it's quite possible that the Clock Tower will be the least of Shirou's concerns. Remember, when Shiro was questioning Homura about what he is, when he asked about aliens his first thought was wondering what TYPE he was. Plus with the concept of of the Jinki and what they're capable of, everyone from the Church to the True Ancestors are going to want to know what's going on. And considering the powers and abilitys of...well, the majority of the characters in the Naru-verse who could easily match the Sekirei in battle who knows what's going to happen to poor Shirou.

Plus, with the scale of what's going on in just the third part of the Sekirei Plan...I wouldn't be surprised if we see the appearance of EMIYA.

 

[Muramasa]

Damn... this version of Yukari is pure awesome. :lol:

 

[He-who-voted-for-Kodos]

My first thought at EMIYA showing up: Matsu and Yukari gushing over there being two Shirous. My second thought: EMIYA sees Shirou's situation and questions why-oh-why couldn't his life have gone that way.

...Oh, god. If Shirou is qualified to be an Ashikabi, wouldn't it also make sense for EMIYA to be as well? In that case, I can think of only one possibility; the one Sekirei that uses a blade, that might fit with him, that is as much more awesome than most of the other Sekirei as he is to Shirou. EMIYA, have you met our landlady, Asama Miya?

 

[Deathwings]

Now, a question I hope someone can answer: at some point in UBW did Shirou see Rule Breaker? If he did, I wonder if it could break a contract between Sekirei and Ashikabi.

Yep. The very moment Caster stabbed Saber with it to forcefully break her contract with Shirou, prompting the next stage of Archer's Master Plan? (more like the following stages of his Revolving Door Heel/Face Turn). And from there on to UBW's Good End.

Speaking of which, I wonder how many chapters in will we finally get the whole story behind the break-up? I'm calling it at 1/2 to 2/3 through, prompting an actual visit (re: showing up with incredibly bad timing), or if they don't make an appearance, 3/4 or so through.

That's what I'm expecting anways; I'd sure as hell prefer that the events behind it all get cleared up at most, 1/3 the way of the story.

More then even that, Shirou got a long, good look at Gil's entire armory of the Gate Of Babylon.
Which basically mean that with the exception of Ea, Shirou's Reality Marble contain a copy of every. Last. Noble Phantasm. EVER.

Also, as I pointed out in my review to Gabriel, it is actually very possible that Shirou could wing Akitsu either by using the "unhygienic" form of prana transfer that he is so familiar with or simply by using Reinforcement on her. :lol:

 

[Amodelsino]

Why would Reinforcement create a contract? All it does is make an object better at its purpose.

Gil doesn't have every last NP. He has magical artifacts that became Noble Phantasms later. Only ones that were created before or during his time though, which is why he doesn't have things like Excalibur or Avalon.

 

[Deathwings]

Why would Reinforcement create a contract? All it does is make an object better at its purpose.

My understanding is that Reinforcement is the act of forcing your prana into an object/person and In Flight make that exact act the basis behing winging the Sekirei.
Or maybe it'll just activate her power momentarily like the Norito does, I dunno... :huh.:

Gil doesn't have every last NP. He has magical artifacts that became Noble Phantasms later. Only ones that were created before or during his time though, which is why he doesn't have things like Excalibur or Avalon.

If Gate Of Babylone isn't self updating, then where the HELL did that Water Park come from ? :huh:

 

[nick012000]

A thought just occurred to me.

Minaka will go on television announcing the return of the Age of the Gods. This will attract the attention of basically every supernatural group in existance. This will likely include Matou Zouken, who would try to use this as an opportunity to gain immortallity; gods, after all, live forever.

The best way for him to do this is to gain control of an Ashikabi through his worms, and then maybe give her Command Seals linked to her Sekirei. His worms work best on women, and there are two canonical female ashikabi. Only one of them is mobile enough to fall victim to his hypnotic powers to bring her to where his worms are gathered, like he did to that random woman he ate in Heaven's Feel.

Poor, poor Yukari; she doesn't at all deserve what she's going to get, and if Shirou finds out why she suddenly lost her wincest obsession and why her hair and eyes are a familiar shade of purple, he's going to be more furious than he's ever been before. Fortunately, MBI is a medical company (and Minaka loves his children even if he's not allowed much contact with them, so he probably wouldn't pull his usual shit), so it shouldn't be too difficult for them to get the worms removed from Yukari and Sakura.

 

[Cherry_lover]

Well, I'm not sure if the guy writing it even knows that Zouken exists. Given his total lack of understanding of Shirou's character, I'm not too convinced that he's played the game, and I've not seen any mention of Sakura in the story yet.

Admittedly, I haven't really been reading it (just searching to see if she's there), so....

 

[nick012000]

Well, I'm not sure if the guy writing it even knows that Zouken exists. Given his total lack of understanding of Shirou's character, I'm not too convinced that he's played the game, and I've not seen any mention of Sakura in the story yet.

Admittedly, I haven't really been reading it (just searching to see if she's there), so....

In the first author's note, he says that he has finished the game and he'd just finished watching Kara no Kyoukai, so I'm pretty sure he knows Zouken exists. And you really should read it, even if there isn't any Sakura yet, you probably wouldn't expect there to be since it's set after UBW's Good Ending.

 

[icefire]

I don't know if he's played the game or not, but I like this story. It has more potential than Hill of Swords and that's saying something.

 

[Deathwings]

A thought just occurred to me.

Minaka will go on television announcing the return of the Age of the Gods.

Wait what ? I don't remember that scene... :huh:

 

[Jomasten]

A thought just occurred to me.

Minaka will go on television announcing the return of the Age of the Gods.

Wait what ? I don't remember that scene... :huh:

In the first seven episodes I've been watching the series, I think he says something along those lines.

You just had to grit your teeth and listen through most of his hamminess.

 

[nick012000]

A thought just occurred to me.

Minaka will go on television announcing the return of the Age of the Gods.

Wait what ? I don't remember that scene... :huh:

It was after Tsukiumi got winged, when he announced the beginning of the Second Stage.

EDIT: About ten minutes in <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeRxT2K-ie0' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>here</a>; IIRC the fansubs of the manga say "Age of Gods".

 

[Lost Star]

You know why I like it so far? It has the potential to have the entire battle royal plan to go up in flames. The stage seems to be set for a very massive conflict between science and magic in the setting, and if done right it could be glorious.

 

[Shaderic]

Hmmm.

Nasu-verse also has an Age of the Gods, right?

Maybe I'm just stating the obvious here, but am I the only one seeing this connection?

The time when sorcery was shit-ton more potent, rare magical beings walked the earth, and the definition of impossible is was incredibly different than what it is now?

I can either see the CT shitting itself, or just deciding to rapidly infiltrate the city to try and figure out what the hell's going on. Assuming they see Minaka's message, and deem him serious.

 

[Deathwings]

That's the thing. Did he announce that on worldwide TV or just within Shin Tokyo ?

 

[Cherry_lover]

In the first author's note, he says that he has finished the game and he'd just finished watching Kara no Kyoukai, so I'm pretty sure he knows Zouken exists. And you really should read it, even if there isn't any Sakura yet

Well, let's see.

It doesn't (yet) involve my favourite character (meaning that she's quite possibly going to be left to die a horrible death), it's a cross-over with a series that I know and care nothing about and it's by a writer whose characterisations I quite simply do not trust (having read bits of Hill of Swords).

So, tell me, why should I read it?

you probably wouldn't expect there to be since it's set after UBW's Good Ending.

Why does the fact that it's set after UBW Good mean that Sakura "shouldn't be there"? She's Rin's sister and Shirou's friend, there's plenty of reasons for her to be there, even more so since he's seemingly set it up to involve the other two heroines, whilst seemingly leaving Sakura to be tortured to death....

I "expect" Sakura to be in every story, and if she's not then in all honestly I just have no interest in it, because I hate the way that fanfic writers pretend that she doesn't exist and ignore the fact that she's probably being tortured by Zouken throughout the entirety of the fic (assuming she hasn't already died without her fucking sister and the guy she loved even knowing about it).

 

[Deathwings]

I like to think that at the end of Fate and UBW, Shirou/Rin discover what is going on and exterminate Zouken with extreme prejudice.

Alternatively, at the end of both route, Zouken's ultimate goal is utterly destroyed beyond any hope of restoration, leading him to just give up and finally let himself die, freeing Sakura that way.

Also, wouldn't Shinji help Sakura at the end of UBW since he is implied to have been scared into becoming someone decent by his experience ?

 

[Cherry_lover]

I like to think that at the end of Fate and UBW, Shirou/Rin discover what is going on and exterminate Zouken with extreme prejudice.

Alternatively, at the end of both route, Zouken's ultimate goal is utterly destroyed beyond any hope of restoration, leading him to just give up and finally let himself die, freeing Sakura that way.

Well, if the first had happened, you'd imagine Sakura would be close to Rin, which would mean that she would at least be mentioned. The second is not impossible (although, given that the Grail Wars are still going on in this timeline, it seems somewhat unlikely that Zouken would just "give up"), but even if that did happen, Sakura would still have a shit life, because she's been abused for eleven years. She needs her sister and the guy she loves to be around to help her get over the past (even if Shirou only ever takes a "caring big brother" role rather than being the lover that she'd like him to be), and to provide someone she can talk to about it, and if they don't rescue her they will likely never find out.

Also, wouldn't Shinji help Sakura at the end of UBW since he is implied to have been scared into becoming someone decent by his experience ?

No. He would stop abusing her, but to attempt to actively help her would be very dangerous for him (because it means going against Zouken, who could trivially kill him (if he wanted to) due to the fact that he's just a normal person), and being scared straight is hardly going to reduce his cowardice....

 

[daniel_gudman]

Gil doesn't have every last NP. He has magical artifacts that became Noble Phantasms later. Only ones that were created before or during his time though, which is why he doesn't have things like Excalibur or Avalon.

Of course, since when Gilgamesh died it was still the early part of the bronze age, logically these would all suck.

That's one of the things about the Nasuverse that bothers me, I know enough history to be mislead about the story canon because there are a lot of things that Nasu got wrong... at least with Saber, he knew he was changing stuff... but I think he didn't know about Joan of Arc, either.

 

[Deathwings]

I like to think that at the end of Fate and UBW, Shirou/Rin discover what is going on and exterminate Zouken with extreme prejudice.

Alternatively, at the end of both route, Zouken's ultimate goal is utterly destroyed beyond any hope of restoration, leading him to just give up and finally let himself die, freeing Sakura that way.

Well, if the first had happened, you'd imagine Sakura would be close to Rin, which would mean that she would at least be mentioned. The second is not impossible (although, given that the Grail Wars are still going on in this timeline, it seems somewhat unlikely that Zouken would just "give up"), but even if that did happen, Sakura would still have a shit life, because she's been abused for eleven years. She needs her sister and the guy she loves to be around to help her get over the past (even if Shirou only ever takes a "caring big brother" role rather than being the lover that she'd like him to be), and to provide someone she can talk to about it, and if they don't rescue her they will likely never find out.

Also, wouldn't Shinji help Sakura at the end of UBW since he is implied to have been scared into becoming someone decent by his experience ?

No. He would stop abusing her, but to attempt to actively help her would be very dangerous for him (because it means going against Zouken, who could trivially kill him (if he wanted to) due to the fact that he's just a normal person), and being scared straight is hardly going to reduce his cowardice....

Actually, it wouldn't surprise me is after Rider's death Zouken, seeing that the situation just wasn't working out for his plan, just went into hibernation so as to preserve whet little he had left of his mind at this point.

That would explain just why he didn't interfered with the events of Fate and UBW.

 

[grant]

Gil doesn't have every last NP. He has magical artifacts that became Noble Phantasms later. Only ones that were created before or during his time though, which is why he doesn't have things like Excalibur or Avalon.

Of course, since when Gilgamesh died it was still the early part of the bronze age, logically these would all suck.

That's one of the things about the Nasuverse that bothers me, I know enough history to be mislead about the story canon because there are a lot of things that Nasu got wrong... at least with Saber, he knew he was changing stuff... but I think he didn't know about Joan of Arc, either.

The idea for Nasuverse is that the closer to the original something is, the better it is. That's not always true though, Archer commented that Cu Culhainn's spear was better than the original.

 

[nick012000]

In the first author's note, he says that he has finished the game and he'd just finished watching Kara no Kyoukai, so I'm pretty sure he knows Zouken exists. And you really should read it, even if there isn't any Sakura yet

Well, let's see.

It doesn't (yet) involve my favourite character (meaning that she's quite possibly going to be left to die a horrible death), it's a cross-over with a series that I know and care nothing about and it's by a writer whose characterisations I quite simply do not trust (having read bits of Hill of Swords).

So, tell me, why should I read it?

Because the characterizations seem to be pretty good this time around. Also because Sekirei is fairly good in any case; it's one of the few manga I regularly read.

you probably wouldn't expect there to be since it's set after UBW's Good Ending.

Why does the fact that it's set after UBW Good mean that Sakura "shouldn't be there"? She's Rin's sister and Shirou's friend, there's plenty of reasons for her to be there, even more so since he's seemingly set it up to involve the other two heroines, whilst seemingly leaving Sakura to be tortured to death....

Because Shirou left her behind to move to Britain with her sister? I'd think that'd be obvious. I'd fully expect him to be almost as angry with himself as with Zouken if he finds out about it, Sakura's probably long ago given up on either of them rescuing her, and one of the themes in Sekirei is love.

I "expect" Sakura to be in every story, and if she's not then in all honestly I just have no interest in it, because I hate the way that fanfic writers pretend that she doesn't exist and ignore the fact that she's probably being tortured by Zouken throughout the entirety of the fic (assuming she hasn't already died without her fucking sister and the guy she loved even knowing about it).

Well, he might simply be waiting for the story to get going before introducing anyone from Fate/Stay Night, and once Minaka announces the return of the Age of Gods, Matou Zouken would have a reason to get involved. Gods, after all, live forever, and ironically enough, Shirou's sister would be the ideal person for him to try to gain control over with his worms. Unfortunately for him, she's pretty much a Shonen Hero in her own right, and would probably press on to rescue Sakura and herself despite the pain the worm inflict on her; she was known as the Devil Ashikabi for a reason, and that's not just because she went around stomping on the balls of the Ashikabi she defeated.

 

[Avider]

Really, it's not that bad?



Nah, still not interested. I like Sekirei, but I don't think gabriel can write a story that I'd like.

 

[blackkyuubi]

My first thought at EMIYA showing up: Matsu and Yukari gushing over there being two Shirous. My second thought: EMIYA sees Shirou's situation and questions why-oh-why couldn't his life have gone that way.

...Oh, god. If Shirou is qualified to be an Ashikabi, wouldn't it also make sense for EMIYA to be as well? In that case, I can think of only one possibility; the one Sekirei that uses a blade, that might fit with him, that is as much more awesome than most of the other Sekirei as he is to Shirou. EMIYA, have you met our landlady, Asama Miya?

Um.... correct me if I'm wrong but isn't technicly Miya not a Sekirei? Or rather she is number 00 and isn't capable of being winged since her husband died?