Nasuverse Fate/Zero Anime
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Episode 14:
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One would have to wonder how much would change if Kariya was able to state that Sakura isn't Zouken's heir, she's his guinea pig.
Edit: With Kariya attacking Tokiomi despite the rule about the War being in suspension until Caster is defeated still being in force, we have now reached the point where the only Master in the war who hasn't either broken a rule or attempted to break a rule (The only reason that Kiritsugu hasn't technically cheated is because he couldn't find Kayneth when he went hunting for him after Kayneth cheated by attacking the Einzbern manor) is Waver.
Edit: With Kariya attacking Tokiomi despite the rule about the War being in suspension until Caster is defeated still being in force, we have now reached the point where the only Master in the war who hasn't either broken a rule or attempted to break a rule (The only reason that Kiritsugu hasn't technically cheated is because he couldn't find Kayneth when he went hunting for him after Kayneth cheated by attacking the Einzbern manor) is Waver.
Would never happen because Kariya can never be anything other than a screw-up.
That said, Tokiomi would freak. He wanted to adopt his daughter out to another magus lineage because that would give her a means to protect herself from people who want to exploit her talent. Instead, he gave her to exactly the kind of person that he wanted to protect her from in the first place. Even if Tokiomi was completely a stiff-necked aristocrat asshole who's more interested in looking good than doing good (which he isn't), he'd be obligated to respond because that's a giant stain on his dignitas.
But this is Kariya we're relying on, so never gonna happen.
That said, Tokiomi would freak. He wanted to adopt his daughter out to another magus lineage because that would give her a means to protect herself from people who want to exploit her talent. Instead, he gave her to exactly the kind of person that he wanted to protect her from in the first place. Even if Tokiomi was completely a stiff-necked aristocrat asshole who's more interested in looking good than doing good (which he isn't), he'd be obligated to respond because that's a giant stain on his dignitas.
But this is Kariya we're relying on, so never gonna happen.
Well, Tokiomi went into a lot more detail in the anime than in the original light novel. In the light novel, Kariya had absolutely no reason to trust him. In the anime, Tokiomi's talk should really have given him reason to at least mention Sakura's treatment.
Having said that, if he had done so, Tokiomi might have accepted it as a "necessary part" of becoming a magus (and assumed Kariya's objections were due to him not accepting magecraft). Further, even if Tokiomi had discovered the truth and realised what an idiot he'd been, I'm not sure he could have actually done much about it.
The whole thing is a huge tragedy. Both Tokiomi and Kariya were acting in what they saw as the best interests of Sakura (and Rin), but neither one of them were able to look at the whole picture. Tokiomi only ever thought of Sakura's development as a magus, and didn't consider what it would mean for her as a person, whereas Kariya never considered the magus side of her life, and just thought what was best for her as a normal human.
Having said that, if he had done so, Tokiomi might have accepted it as a "necessary part" of becoming a magus (and assumed Kariya's objections were due to him not accepting magecraft). Further, even if Tokiomi had discovered the truth and realised what an idiot he'd been, I'm not sure he could have actually done much about it.
The whole thing is a huge tragedy. Both Tokiomi and Kariya were acting in what they saw as the best interests of Sakura (and Rin), but neither one of them were able to look at the whole picture. Tokiomi only ever thought of Sakura's development as a magus, and didn't consider what it would mean for her as a person, whereas Kariya never considered the magus side of her life, and just thought what was best for her as a normal human.
Pretty much, the conversation in the novel consists of little more than Tokiomi verbally jabbing Kariya and Kariya growling epithets, the only exception being Kariya's question as to why Tokiomi adopted out Sakura, Tokiomi's not particularly long response, and Kariya taking it very poorly. Both of them sounded like they were stiff-necked and spoiling for a fight, and it probably would've taken a much more diplomatic personality and set of circumstances on both their parts to head off that fight.
Just watched Fate Zero 15 - can't help but feel that Caster's death scene didn't translate well to the screen. I rather liked it when Excalibur's light reminded him that his deeds could not tarnish the glory of his accomplishments beforehand and it was a shame that this sentiment couldn't be easily carried over to the anime.