Evangelion Fiendish Eva Idea Thread
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Hopefully, I won't get shot for the comment.
Also, I was more thinking along the lines of a Gendo, whose final thoughts turned to his spurned son, asking for forgiveness, being brought back to the point where it all went wrong.
From what I understood, before Yui died, they were a mostly good, functional family. And then <a href='http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ItGotWorse' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>it got worse</a>.
The question of the premise is this: knowing the way all he did turned out, would he try the same path, and hope for the best, distancing himself from his son in an attempt to protect him from the forces that be(SEELE, angels) by not drawing attention, or would he try something else?
Bonus points if canon turns out to be a Gendo who tried everything and came to the conclusion that everything that came to occur there was the best case scenario.
Hopefully, I won't get shot for the comment.
Also, I was more thinking along the lines of a Gendo, whose final thoughts turned to his spurned son, asking for forgiveness, being brought back to the point where it all went wrong.
From what I understood, before Yui died, they were a mostly good, functional family. And then <a href='http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ItGotWorse' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>it got worse</a>.
The question of the premise is this: knowing the way all he did turned out, would he try the same path, and hope for the best, distancing himself from his son in an attempt to protect him from the forces that be(SEELE, angels) by not drawing attention, or would he try something else?
Bonus points if canon turns out to be a Gendo who tried everything and came to the conclusion that everything that came to occur there was the best case scenario.
"Well sir, I was going to single-handedly dispatch the Angel the way I usually do when things get bad, but then I thought "What would Gendo do?" instead and you saw the results," Shinji replied with equal sarcasm. "As for being the offspring of the village idiot and a fashion model, well I know Mother was supposed to be attractive, so I guess we know where you fall in the grand sceme of things don't we?"
Bah, the damn plot bunny wouldn't stop jumping on my head until I put this into writing. Not exactly high quality, but goes with the idea that was running through my head. Of course, if I decide to do anything with this, it will suffer changes.
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In hindsight, ironic as it is, he had made many mistakes. As life fled his eyes, Gendo Ikari realized that he had very few regrets in life. Letting his wife enter the Evangelion Unit-01 was near the top of the list, but they both knew the risks. What had happenedà it would be a lie if he said he had accepted it.
But that wasnÆt the thing he had regretted the most. At the end of his life, the only thing that came to mind was his son. Shinji, whom he had spurned, abandoned, and all but replaced, merely for the fact that he couldnÆt face him. For years, the one thing that had haunted him more than the sight of his vanishing wife, was the look on the young boyÆs eyes that asked æWhy?Æ, why had he allowed mother to be harmed, as if it was his fault. And in a way, it was.
He knew he would not see Yui again. The scenario called for him inititating the Third Impact for a simple reason: her soul would be pulled to that of Rei/Lillith. If nothing more, he realized, Yui would be reunited with her son. It was a small mercy to a man who had seen everything he worked for, everything he had all but sold his soul for turn to nothing.
Slowly, the eyes of Gendo Ikari closed, taking with them one final sight of the Terminal Dogmaà only to open again, and behold something that made his blood freeze.
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Even last night, the nightmares had returned, but compared to the reality he had lived in, compared to the future that awaited should he fail, even the worst his mind could dredge up failed to phase him, even for a moment.
Upon his throne, the implacable commander of NERV Japan awaited two events that were about to occur, and once more, thrust the world into chaos. The first was the arrival of Sachiel, the third angel, but that one was almost unimportant, for in his shadow, a second entity was approaching.
The Angels would know fear, but not of Gendo Ikarià
Perhaps, the most entertaining thing he could mention, if he was inclined to scuttle many years of effort and planning, would be that he was not the only one to remember. Somehow, ever since that day, the thought never failed to bring a chilling smile to his face.
~@~@~@~@~
In hindsight, ironic as it is, he had made many mistakes. As life fled his eyes, Gendo Ikari realized that he had very few regrets in life. Letting his wife enter the Evangelion Unit-01 was near the top of the list, but they both knew the risks. What had happenedà it would be a lie if he said he had accepted it.
But that wasnÆt the thing he had regretted the most. At the end of his life, the only thing that came to mind was his son. Shinji, whom he had spurned, abandoned, and all but replaced, merely for the fact that he couldnÆt face him. For years, the one thing that had haunted him more than the sight of his vanishing wife, was the look on the young boyÆs eyes that asked æWhy?Æ, why had he allowed mother to be harmed, as if it was his fault. And in a way, it was.
He knew he would not see Yui again. The scenario called for him inititating the Third Impact for a simple reason: her soul would be pulled to that of Rei/Lillith. If nothing more, he realized, Yui would be reunited with her son. It was a small mercy to a man who had seen everything he worked for, everything he had all but sold his soul for turn to nothing.
Slowly, the eyes of Gendo Ikari closed, taking with them one final sight of the Terminal Dogmaà only to open again, and behold something that made his blood freeze.
~@~@~@~@~
Even last night, the nightmares had returned, but compared to the reality he had lived in, compared to the future that awaited should he fail, even the worst his mind could dredge up failed to phase him, even for a moment.
Upon his throne, the implacable commander of NERV Japan awaited two events that were about to occur, and once more, thrust the world into chaos. The first was the arrival of Sachiel, the third angel, but that one was almost unimportant, for in his shadow, a second entity was approaching.
The Angels would know fear, but not of Gendo Ikarià
Perhaps, the most entertaining thing he could mention, if he was inclined to scuttle many years of effort and planning, would be that he was not the only one to remember. Somehow, ever since that day, the thought never failed to bring a chilling smile to his face.
I can't help it. Every once in a while I just want Shinji to be a bastard right back to Gendo. After all, at the end of the day, Shinji has the real power in most of the situations whether he knows it or not. He walks, and Unit 01 is a giant lawn decoration. Sometimes you just want to see the oppressed push back.
No change to anyone else but Shinji apparently.
And that would end with a very dead Shinji. Mostly because Misato would stop giving a shit about him in about two days tops, Gendo would be completely uninterested in him unless he proved himself useful, and if his only difference was that he was an asshole... well, not much to discuss there. He'd die real quick.
Idea: Shinji finds the Necronomicon. Chaos ensues.
And that would end with a very dead Shinji. Mostly because Misato would stop giving a shit about him in about two days tops, Gendo would be completely uninterested in him unless he proved himself useful, and if his only difference was that he was an asshole... well, not much to discuss there. He'd die real quick.
Idea: Shinji finds the Necronomicon. Chaos ensues.
Aside from the obvious 'It's Evangelion, everyone dies' reason, which I won't raise as it murders the discussion... 
To put forth a basic premise: Shinji by canon(and pretty much everyone else in the show) is a mass of mental problems that would make any shrink wet themselves in happiness for the income they would receive from therapy. This really needs no arguing, the whole basis of the show is that they're messed up.
Now, we delve into details. Should being an asshole be a defining trait of his personality, he would die. Mostly because as an asshole, he would at best be able to maintain a professional relationship with those who work at Tokyo-3. It would also be very unlikely that he would manage to make any stable, lasting friendships, and not to mention how his relationship with Rei and Asuka would function. Or wouldn't, for that matter. An asshole wouldn't care about either enough to bother, which is why he is an asshole. At some point, most certainly within single digit angels, he would find himself alone because sooner or later he would fuck up, and there wouldn't be anyone capable of supporting him in combat. And that is unless someone else decided to kill him first.
On the other hand if it's just a small part of him (say, a defensive mechanism? Habit? Or something similar... while still being a complete psychological mess) then that's a different matter altogether. One I'm unable to properly process without further information.
Anything else would be a complete rewrite of his personality, and that kinda defeats the purpose of the discussion.
Edit: What the heck is Shortpacked? I'm a bit too groggy to go an search it online...
To put forth a basic premise: Shinji by canon(and pretty much everyone else in the show) is a mass of mental problems that would make any shrink wet themselves in happiness for the income they would receive from therapy. This really needs no arguing, the whole basis of the show is that they're messed up.
Now, we delve into details. Should being an asshole be a defining trait of his personality, he would die. Mostly because as an asshole, he would at best be able to maintain a professional relationship with those who work at Tokyo-3. It would also be very unlikely that he would manage to make any stable, lasting friendships, and not to mention how his relationship with Rei and Asuka would function. Or wouldn't, for that matter. An asshole wouldn't care about either enough to bother, which is why he is an asshole. At some point, most certainly within single digit angels, he would find himself alone because sooner or later he would fuck up, and there wouldn't be anyone capable of supporting him in combat. And that is unless someone else decided to kill him first.
On the other hand if it's just a small part of him (say, a defensive mechanism? Habit? Or something similar... while still being a complete psychological mess) then that's a different matter altogether. One I'm unable to properly process without further information.
Anything else would be a complete rewrite of his personality, and that kinda defeats the purpose of the discussion.
Edit: What the heck is Shortpacked? I'm a bit too groggy to go an search it online...
Funny online comic about a toystore. The character I mentioned is a big asshole. Kid askes if he's seen his mother the guys response is that she's in the discount section giving out BJ for a nickel. Bullies little kids into buying insurance so nothing bad happens to their toys. Flew halfway across the country to open the door for a girl visiting her online boyfriend just to see her face when she thinks it's him. Despite being anti-gay, deep kissed the main hero to turn him gay to screw over the romantic plans of another co-worker. He Takes pride in his ability to be an asshole and screw over the lives of everyone else, calling himself "what ever you don't want me to be."
Meh... not overly interesting then to be honest. I'm not overly fond of assholes like that, so you'll forgive me if I don't waste my already tired brain cells to drop a deep mental analysis.
(Crack)Idea: Shinji receives the Evangelion anime a few weeks before the whole mess starts.
Idea: Third Impact resets time back to the beginning point of the anime series. Except... everyone remembers.
On another note, I've just finished watching Rebuild 2.22 You Shall (Not) Advance.
Words fail me as to how damn good it was. Especially the last part... dang, Shinji was actually frightening at the "Give.Ayanami.Back!" moment. Watching him effortlessly butcher the Angel not by simple strength, skill or tactics, but by completely overshadowing it on every possible account, and then vaporizing it to remove Rei from it... ye gods. I had thought I was so saturated by things I've seen so far that I've passed the phase where things amazed me. Clearly, I was naive and foolish.
(Crack)Idea: Shinji receives the Evangelion anime a few weeks before the whole mess starts.
Idea: Third Impact resets time back to the beginning point of the anime series. Except... everyone remembers.
On another note, I've just finished watching Rebuild 2.22 You Shall (Not) Advance.
Words fail me as to how damn good it was. Especially the last part... dang, Shinji was actually frightening at the "Give.Ayanami.Back!" moment. Watching him effortlessly butcher the Angel not by simple strength, skill or tactics, but by completely overshadowing it on every possible account, and then vaporizing it to remove Rei from it... ye gods. I had thought I was so saturated by things I've seen so far that I've passed the phase where things amazed me. Clearly, I was naive and foolish.
Was just struck by a new idea.
Partially inspired by <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc5JXbyw1C0' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>this</a> snipped (NSFW for language).
Shinji takes an interest in some of the science behind the Evangelions, and starts to ask Ritsuko about certain aspects of it.
Now obviously, he won't understand a great deal of it, and there's a lot of it that's classified, but it could be argued that if Shinji has a greater understanding of what he's piloting, he'll be a better pilot.
Plus, there'll be an excuse for some Shinji/Ritsuko interaction, which is always nice.
It doesn't necessarily mean that there'll be a Shinji/Ritsuko pairing, but sometimes, a bonding between two characters that we don't see in canon can be fine too.
Thoughts?
Partially inspired by <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc5JXbyw1C0' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>this</a> snipped (NSFW for language).
Shinji takes an interest in some of the science behind the Evangelions, and starts to ask Ritsuko about certain aspects of it.
Now obviously, he won't understand a great deal of it, and there's a lot of it that's classified, but it could be argued that if Shinji has a greater understanding of what he's piloting, he'll be a better pilot.
Plus, there'll be an excuse for some Shinji/Ritsuko interaction, which is always nice.
It doesn't necessarily mean that there'll be a Shinji/Ritsuko pairing, but sometimes, a bonding between two characters that we don't see in canon can be fine too.
Thoughts?
It's a curious concept, the only question that actually remains is what the author (or you in this case) intends to do with it. Personally, I would prefer it not to be a complete pairing, but rather bonding between them.
Out of curiosity, there are a few other points that could be raised here.
For one, given who his parents were, it would be foolish to assume that Shinji is stupid. How does actually learning something that he would be interested in affect him, both intellectually and emotionally? Considering that he's a complete trainwreck by some point, having an anchor to hold on to could have curious consequences.
And from another angle, how would it affect Ritsuko to have someone genuinely interested in her field of study without the desire to actually use her in any direct way? Certainly, Shinji would benefit from her knowledge, but in turn, so would everyone else, so that's hardly an argument.
Hm... I wonder what this could turn into...
Out of curiosity, there are a few other points that could be raised here.
For one, given who his parents were, it would be foolish to assume that Shinji is stupid. How does actually learning something that he would be interested in affect him, both intellectually and emotionally? Considering that he's a complete trainwreck by some point, having an anchor to hold on to could have curious consequences.
And from another angle, how would it affect Ritsuko to have someone genuinely interested in her field of study without the desire to actually use her in any direct way? Certainly, Shinji would benefit from her knowledge, but in turn, so would everyone else, so that's hardly an argument.
Hm... I wonder what this could turn into...