Flapping of a Butterflies Wings

AbyssalDaemon

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#1
This was born from how almost EVERY LotR SI or crossover I've seen pretty much is a rehash of the same old stuff. It doesn't matter who's introduced into Middle-Earth it could be the X-men, Naruto, or Edward Elric and story STILL has them go through all the same damn events that happened in the book and movies.

So the challenge is introduce a character (or a set of characters) from another series or a SI into Middle-Earth and have events diverge from cannon, the farther the better. It can even be something as simple as your SI introducing gunpowder and toilets (with Plumbing) if you want.
 

drakensis

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#2
Part of the trouble is that many changes would probably leave Sauron winning.


Probably the best bet is to get someone competent replacing Denethor.

Step 2 - Turn Osgiliath into a death-trap. Caltrops everywhere. Naptha barrels just waiting to be spilled out on every street and onto the river. Pitfalls. Carefully undermined buttresses for the bridge. When Sauron's army marches through it, they die in fire and falling stone. Probably not enough to stop them but it'd probably slow them down and either weaken them or have them call reinforcements out of Mordor (giving Frodo a better chance to get to Mount Doom). A single day delay here would probably lead to the Rohirrim arriving before gates of Minas Tirith are broken.

Step 2 - Speaking of the Rohirrim, send Faramir north with that handful of cavalry in time to help protect Horn's Deep. Should make Theoden a lot happier about sending help to Gondor and hopefully set things up for Aragorn to make a good impression on Faramir (not that he needs the help, but still...). Tell him that 'if' Gondor is attacked bring in the Rohirrim but have them wait until Minas Tirith is beseiged and then start working on the rear and flanks of the army, with particular attention to their siege engines. The explicit goal is to force Sauron to commit more and more troops to fighting Gondor.

Step 3 - While that's going on, use the Gondor navy to launch a pre-emptive attack on Umbar. Decent odds of breaking up that arm of the attack on Gondor and if you lose the entire navy, well, harsh as it sounds: what use were they in canon?

Step 4 - Turn the lowest ring of Minas Tirith into another death trap. Set up interior walls around the court behind the gates and prepare to evacuate everyone in that ring of the city on minimal notice. Rig all the houses along that flank to collapse (and burn) if the orcs or trolls get into them. And dig pit-traps outside the city to inconvenience siege towers. For that matter, how hard would it be to at least partially moat the city?
 

AbyssalDaemon

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#3
drakensis said:
Part of the trouble is that many changes would probably leave Sauron winning.
Depends on just when character X finds themselves in Middle Earth and what they're capable of. For example somebody like Edward or Naruto could be dropped in sometime around the Two Towers or RotK and still be able to heavily change things; where as an SI probably would need to end up in Middle Earth at least a few months or even a year or two before the Fellowship gets formed to a real chance at changing things depending on their knowledge and skill base. As well as what the might have happened to have on them at the time.

For example if you happen to know how to make gunpowder, it'd also be quite possible to figure out how to create some simple guns and cannons as well as landmines. Which would heavily change the the balance of power of whoever they happen to be working for.

For example Serpent in Paradise I The Fellowship of the Serpent for all the SI in it gets preachy as well as Mary Sueish at times, happens represents a good example of a SI actually working on changing cannon.
 

drakensis

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#4
Faramir shifted his fingers nervously on the hilt of his sword. Behind him, past the shielding mass of stone from one of Osgiliath's many ruined buildings, the hordes of Mordor were crossing the Anduin. Despite their efforts to be quiet, the Captain of the Rangers could hear oars creaking as barges were rowed across the broad river, the shuffle of many irod-clad feet and the rumble of wheels as massive siege engines were dragged towards the remains of the bridges that spanned the great river.

There were thousands of them. Tens of thousands. Orcs from Mordor. Men from the East and from the South. Beasts from every corner of the dozens of kingdoms subjugated to Sauron. An army intended to blot out the last traces of the West from Middle Earth.

'I'm sorry, Boromir,' he thought, the unspoken apology for the fact that his brother's promise, little more than a year old, that Osgiliath would remain free from the darkness would now be broken. Every soldier in Gondor's army would not have been enough to hold the former capital, even if they had been here and not securing Minas Tirith and other, more westerly fortresses. As it was, he had only the depleted garrison, a few score Rangers and the most he could hope to do was to sting the Enemy's vanguard before withdrawing.

Then he heard the first barge crunch against the shore and Faramir son of Denethor put such thoughts aside. There was no more time for regrets. He exchanged looks with Mablung, pressed against the other side of the archway and tensed to cut down the first orc to reach their position.

And then the Sun appeared above the Anduin.

There were howls of surprise and pain from the orcs - the light of Laurelin was ever their greatest fear and coming unexpectedly, under the huge banks of cloud that had shrouded the skies for days and - most astonishingly - hours before dawn, the sudden golden light cast them into confusion.

Scarely less surprised, Faramir darted out of cover, thrusting his sword into the chest of the nearest orc, barely looking at it as he glanced up at the source of that marvelous, miraculous light and then ducked down behind cover again before he had fully processed what he saw in the sky.

Perhaps fifty yards above the surface of the Anduin, a woman hovered in the sky, suspended by lazily flapping wings of white and gold. Armour of golden sunlight and silver thread garbed her, and her long corn-blonde hair was restrained by a winged crown set with three great gemstones at her brow, rubies flanking a red-orange stone the like of which Faramir had never seen before. Blades of some blackened metal curved like fingers from her gauntlets. And around her, the golden light of Laurelin, of the Sun, blazed in brazen challenge to the forces of Sauron, taking the shape of one of the Great Eagles.

"Arien," he whispered to a curious Mablung. It was the only thing that made sense to him. For some unknowable reason, the Valar had seen fit to despatch the Maia to whom the light of the Sun had been entrusted to Osgiliath and their aid.

A shout came from the far side of the river, an angry booming voice in the Orcish tongue: "Kill her!"

Mablung and Faramir both peered around the archway, the nearest Orcs staring upwards at the flying apparation and heedless of the Rangers at their back. None near had bows but from across the Anduin, black arrows rose towards the source of the light. Some fell short - indeed, many fell upon the Orcs already across the Anduin or still on bridges and barges. Others were simply astray of the target, poorly aimed by archers who could barely even look at the supposed Arien. But some were closer and she dived. For a heart-stopping moment, Faramir thought that she had been brought low, but then he saw the wings still beating and realised she had simply moved to avoid the arrows, the wings themselves beating some arrows aside and she simply caught one before it could strike her breast.

For a brief moment as she turned, Faramir could see her face and it was fixed in an intent expression. A golden sigil shone upon her brow, a circle with radiating lines - a stylised sun perhaps?

With a shriek like the hunting cry of an eagle, the woman vanished in flames, replaced by a bird of fire larger than a warhorse. The phoenix descended upon one of the bridges, restored by the orcs using crude planks where elegant arches had been demolished. A mighty siege engine, some kind of ram, was half-way across the bridge, halted by her arrival and terrified orcs scattered - some plunging recklessly into the river despite the weight of their armour, as the fiery eagle lifted the massive construct in it's claws and then dashed it upon the eastern bank, drushing dozens of orcs.

The Phoenix stooped out of sight behind a building and a trail of fire marked its passage even more clearly than the howls of panic that resulted. Faramir drove his sword into the back of an orc, felling it swiftly. "For Gondor!" he shouted, rallying the defenders against the surprised and still isolated vanguard. "For Gondor and for Arien!"

With a triumphant shriek, the Phoenix burst into to the sky again and in the distance Faramir saw the dark, bat-serpent steeds of the Nine. The creatures and their fell riders had been a terror in the city for weeks, but now they seemed loath to approach. No wonder, he thought gladly. Wraiths would be no match for one of the mightiest of the Maiar!
 

Shaderic

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#5
Pardon, but... what was that? :eek:
It seemed.... awesome.
Is that this Exalted thing I keep hearing about?
 

drakensis

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#6
Yeah. She's a dawn caste. Let's call her Killstealy McXPthief.

The rest of the Gondor army can go home now. She has this covered.
 

drakensis

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#7
Gandalf had known Osgiliath in its days of splendor and seen its ruins. Now as he rode Shadowfax towards the Anduin in search of answers regarding the golden light that had lit the ruined city hours before dawn, he found it almost unrecognisable.

Even on the western shore, buildings were savaged and torn, with great divots torn in the gravelled edge of the river. There was a stench of smoke from a handful buildings that had clearly been set on fire and worse, a stench that spoke of burnt flesh. However, soldiers in the polished steel armour and high helms of Gondor continued to move purposely through the wreckage, their morale clearly unshaken as they restored order.

The eastern side of Osgiliath was a charnel house of bloodstained marble, entire buildings shattered so thoroughly that he could barely recognise a single landmark. Fires raged uncontrolled in at least a dozen places and only the fact that the river now spilled through what remained of streets and courtyards prevented everything that remained from being consumed. The only mercy was that for some reason, flies and other vermin did not seem to be seeking sustenance from the bloodied remains of Sauron's army. Why that might be, the White Wizard did not know, but he was grateful nonetheless. Disease was another of Sauron's weapons of old.

"Mithrandir!" came a delighted shout from atop one of the few buildings still standing more that head high on Gandalf when he was mounted, and he turned to see his former student, Faramir, standing upon what remained of the upper floor from which vantage point he had clearly been surveying the damage done.

The wizard dismounted easily and stroked Shadowfax's neck gratefully for a moment before turning towards the building, from which Faramir quickly appeared, clasping Gandalf's arms in welcome.

"When the light over Osgiliath was seen many feared the worst," the wizard admitted. "I am glad to see those concerns misplaced, but clearly momentuous deeds took place in the night."

"Indeed so," agreed Faramir and gestured for the wizard to join him inside the building. "Allow me to introduce you to our savior."

The woman who awaited them there did not fit her surroundings. The rough table and bench used as furnishings by soldiers did no justice to her brilliantly white and gold cape or her sweeping robes of saffron and lavender as she rose from the latter to greet Gandalf with a deep curtsey. "Lord Olorin," she welcomed him in accented Sindarin, her voice high and sweet, her head bowed so that only her corn-blonde hair and the golden crown she wore were visible. "I bear you the greetings of Lady Arien and many others amongst your people."

Gandalf's brow furrowed at her claim but he returned her courtesies with a deep bow. Faramir cleared his throat. "Mithrandir, allow me to present to you Merela, Queen of the distant realm of the Ochre Fountain. Only through her generous aid do we still count Osgiliath as part of Gondor, for Sauron's armies struck her with great force."

Merela straightened and Gandalf could see regal assurance in her eyes as she did so. "I am honoured to meet you," he said, controlling his curiousity. "I count Faramir's obvious regard for your virtues only slightly less than I do that of Arien."

The woman smiled slightly. "It was given to Lady Arien that though she might not aid directly those of this Middle-Earth, she might ask others to lend her the services of their own Chosen," she revealed. "My presence here is at the request of one who holds a similar exalted status in my own homelands. It is a request that I am glad to fulfill, for it would sadden me to see such rabble as I scattered in the night lay waste to more of these lands."
 

SotF

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#8
A new light seemed to burst into existence before the walls of Aglarond, crimson as fresh blood as a single figure draped in black cloth and armor, letting no flesh be seen while holding the blade aloft in his right hand.

The archers upon the wall waited, bows knocked and ready as the being upon the fields that would soon be drenched in blood spoke to the masses of monsters marching upon his position.

"I give you one chance," the Lord of Revenge proclaimed, a voice filled with some sort of power that gave strength to each word, "Leave this place and I will not pursue, remain and die."

Even as the syllables echoed as if their own violation from the walls of Helm's Deep, the Uruk-hai continued their march either unknowing of the challenge or simply that all reason had been bred from their twisted brood.

Those watching from behind the challenger waited with bated breath as the figure shook his weary head in disappointment.

"Then so be it."

The words spoke as if it were a speech while the blade was raised into a ready position matching the stance now taken by its wielder.

And then the man was gone from his position, moving almost to fast for the ey to see, even then a mere blur.

In a flash the line of his foes seemed to flinch as the bladed warrior struck, weapon passing almost as magic through armor, sword, and shield as easily as the air while humming with bloodthirsty glee at that destruction.

Screams filled the air, but there was no smell of blood or entrails, only that of burning flesh as the weapon cleaved foes as if they were simply not there.

His free hand raised and the man paused before the air seemed to ripple a second before hundreds of soldiers were thrown back as if they were mere rag dolls.

Darth Revan had entered the battle, and the Lord of Revenge was prepared to be the doom of countless foes.
 

Estrecca

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#9
You know, I've been wondering what would happen if one where to drop Year 7 Hogwarts via Assiti Shard somewhere in Middle Earth.

It is likely that the three resident Death Eaters (and most of the Slytherin students, probably) would get booted out by the rest of the staff as soon as the exact nature of their situation becomes evident... but it would certainly be one hell of a mess.
 

The Eromancer

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#10
SotF said:
A new light seemed to burst into existence before the walls of Aglarond, crimson as fresh blood as a single figure draped in black cloth and armor, letting no flesh be seen while holding the blade aloft in his right hand.

The archers upon the wall waited, bows knocked and ready as the being upon the fields that would soon be drenched in blood spoke to the masses of monsters marching upon his position.

"I give you one chance," the Lord of Revenge proclaimed, a voice filled with some sort of power that gave strength to each word, "Leave this place and I will not pursue, remain and die."

Even as the syllables echoed as if their own violation from the walls of Helm's Deep, the Uruk-hai continued their march either unknowing of the challenge or simply that all reason had been bred from their twisted brood.

Those watching from behind the challenger waited with bated breath as the figure shook his weary head in disappointment.

"Then so be it."

The words spoke as if it were a speech while the blade was raised into a ready position matching the stance now taken by its wielder.

And then the man was gone from his position, moving almost to fast for the ey to see, even then a mere blur.

In a flash the line of his foes seemed to flinch as the bladed warrior struck, weapon passing almost as magic through armor, sword, and shield as easily as the air while humming with bloodthirsty glee at that destruction.

Screams filled the air, but there was no smell of blood or entrails, only that of burning flesh as the weapon cleaved foes as if they were simply not there.

His free hand raised and the man paused before the air seemed to ripple a second before hundreds of soldiers were thrown back as if they were mere rag dolls.

Darth Revan had entered the battle, and the Lord of Revenge was prepared to be the doom of countless foes.
SHiiiiit, Mordor kiss your ass goodbye!

Numerical advantage? pfft, this is Revan he doesn't need an army! Hell he IS a one man army! :rofl:

About Revan though, I don't know what makes a one Exalted or Infernal but under what category would Revan fall under?
 
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