Nasuverse FSN Question Thread
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RE: Berserksalot:
The Noble Phantasm "Knight of Honor" turns anything he uses as a "weapon" into "his" Noble Phantasm.
The skill "Eternal Arms Mastery" as such just cancels the skill debuff effect form Mad Enhancement. Although the fact he has such crazy fighting skills in the first place is what allows him to use even an unwieldy and jury-rigged NP effectively.
...Well, since they're arbitrary distinctions from the Grail Class System trying to break his life skills into distinct categories, it doesn't really matter what particular title it has; basically, he can add the Ghost Strike Special to anything he picks up, and he's got the mad skillz to use anything he picks up as as a weapon.
The Noble Phantasm "Knight of Honor" turns anything he uses as a "weapon" into "his" Noble Phantasm.
The skill "Eternal Arms Mastery" as such just cancels the skill debuff effect form Mad Enhancement. Although the fact he has such crazy fighting skills in the first place is what allows him to use even an unwieldy and jury-rigged NP effectively.
...Well, since they're arbitrary distinctions from the Grail Class System trying to break his life skills into distinct categories, it doesn't really matter what particular title it has; basically, he can add the Ghost Strike Special to anything he picks up, and he's got the mad skillz to use anything he picks up as as a weapon.
Yes, while Shinji had the book, Rider wasn't getting prana from Sakura, causing the lower stats. Yes, using BFA on the school was Shinji's idea to make up for his inability to provide and to strengthen Rider. The point of the discussion was that Shinji took over as Master because Sakura didn't want to fight in the War once Shirou was selected and Shinji was eager to take up the position. Thus, one could assign the blame for BFA to both Shinji and Sakura. Given Sakura's personality, she would be prone to blame herself, possibly only herself. The initial question was supposed to be, given that BFA left people damaged, scarred, maimed, dead, how does Sakura feel seeing the outcome, knowing that she handed control of Rider over to Shinji?
Actually, Rin saw the students pale and waxy looking in UBW as well, and almost had a breakdown from it before she got mad at Shinji.
I believe in UBW True they offhandedly mention the students recovering.
As for how Sakura would feel, guilt definitely. However, as HF showed us, she made Shinji promise that he would only use Rider for his own protection, and it talks about how she was hospitalized like the rest when the Bloodfort was activated by iirc Taiga in both Fate and UBW. Shinji basically (obviously) betrayed her trust and reveled in his borrowed power.
I believe in UBW True they offhandedly mention the students recovering.
As for how Sakura would feel, guilt definitely. However, as HF showed us, she made Shinji promise that he would only use Rider for his own protection, and it talks about how she was hospitalized like the rest when the Bloodfort was activated by iirc Taiga in both Fate and UBW. Shinji basically (obviously) betrayed her trust and reveled in his borrowed power.
I coulda sworn that putting the BFA on the school was Rider's idea though? To "punish" all the people around Sakura that didn't notice she was suffering.
Well, in either case, I always mostly blamed Rider for the BFA, on account of her being the one that actually put it up with no hesitation and zero objections, thinking it was a great idea.
Well, in either case, I always mostly blamed Rider for the BFA, on account of her being the one that actually put it up with no hesitation and zero objections, thinking it was a great idea.
Zouken isn't interested in the Holy Grail War except as a pretext to getting enough servant souls for the Holy Grail. He's certainly not stupid enough to think Shinji is useful as anything other than what he used him for in HF ("man my grandson is terrible guess that's it for the matou, pay no attention to the retiree").
That's fanon--my fanon, actually. It's an attempt I made in The World Without to account for at least part of the massive clusterfuck that is Rider's timeline in the VN (in this case, the fact that she isn't given to Shinji until after BFA is already set up, going by the intermissions in HF).
It's generally accepted in canon that the whole plan, including setting BFA up in the first place, was Shinji's idea, and I believe the manga states this outright.
It's generally accepted in canon that the whole plan, including setting BFA up in the first place, was Shinji's idea, and I believe the manga states this outright.
Can a person have Void/Ether as Origin?
How the hell would be a incarnation of Void/Ether if it's possible to have one or both? What kind of advantages or weakness would a magus have?
The Wiki (Yes I know that is not very confiable) mentions Void or Ether beign asotiated with life, holy and divination, so that mean using spells of holly light and healing? Rin has all five elements so that means she can use Ether spells, we did saw one being used?
How the hell would be a incarnation of Void/Ether if it's possible to have one or both? What kind of advantages or weakness would a magus have?
The Wiki (Yes I know that is not very confiable) mentions Void or Ether beign asotiated with life, holy and divination, so that mean using spells of holly light and healing? Rin has all five elements so that means she can use Ether spells, we did saw one being used?
Because he can't. Shirou can only project it so long as it's in his body. He projects a degraded copy fighting Kotomine in the FATE route, but I'm reasonably sure he looses the ability to do that much at some point afterwards. EMIYA no longer posses Avalon, he gave it back to Saber while he was still Shirou, during his Grail War. Given how many years there was between the War and his death, he'd have long lost the ability.
If he could, then it's likely degraded to a point where Rho Aias functions as a much better alternative.
If he could, then it's likely degraded to a point where Rho Aias functions as a much better alternative.
So the other day my buddy Phoenickfire and I were having a friendly argument as what the events at Kotomine's Church during the Fate route's "Go along the cheek" mean in respect to Shirou's morals and personality.
My friend argues that Shirou's refusal of Kotomine's suggestion to use the Holy Grail to "redo what happened 10 years ago" means that he is entirely opposed to saving people through changing the past as "a superhero only exists to straighten out what has already happened." He went as fair to claim that, even if given the opportunity, Shirou wouldn't go back in time and shoot Hitler in the face.
I, on the other hand, argued that Shirou opposed "undoing" the Fuyuki fire (and Saber undoing the destruction of Camelot) for several reasons:
A: Even if Shirou were to wish that the Fuyuki fire never happened and change reality around him, he, the "Shirou who was adopted by Emiya Kiritsugu and vowed to become a hero" would still remember the events of the original timeline, and thus to him the suffering of the victims would still exist. For him (and the victims who's lives had been changed or ended by the fire,) the dead wouldn't have come back, but instead people who were very similar but still ultimately not them would be wandering around in their place and bearing their names.
B: Time-travel is not a method where you can save everyone. If Saber had had her wish granted, and, in exchange for an eternity of servitude to Alaya, she was erased from history so someone else could have been crowned King and somehow save Camelot when she wasn't able to, then as a result all the people who would have died in "Altria's history" would have lived but also vice-versa, as those who conquered Camelot and lived in "Altria's history" would have been defeated/killed in "New King's history."
Add in the Butterfly Effect/Chaos Theory, and countless people throughout history will live instead of dying, and die instead of living (or in the case of the descendants of Camelot's inhabitants/conquerors, either born when they weren't before or never existed at all.) Therefore, Saber would not be able to claim to have "saved" people, but merely switched who lived and died on a grand scale, just to alleviate her feelings of guilt by "saving the people who were in front of her" (at the cost of a similar number of people,) and Shirou would not be able to tolerate an action that has so little or (even no) "net benefit" being carried out for selfish reasons.
However, that doesn't disprove that Shirou would make use of time-travel for something that could be said to have a colossal "net benefit," and thus I argued that Shirou would totally be on board for travelling back in time and shooting Hitler (or decapitating him with a sword, as that would be more "in-character.") Especially as his decision wouldn't be motivated by Survivor's guilt, but pure altruism.
What do you guys think?
My friend argues that Shirou's refusal of Kotomine's suggestion to use the Holy Grail to "redo what happened 10 years ago" means that he is entirely opposed to saving people through changing the past as "a superhero only exists to straighten out what has already happened." He went as fair to claim that, even if given the opportunity, Shirou wouldn't go back in time and shoot Hitler in the face.
I, on the other hand, argued that Shirou opposed "undoing" the Fuyuki fire (and Saber undoing the destruction of Camelot) for several reasons:
A: Even if Shirou were to wish that the Fuyuki fire never happened and change reality around him, he, the "Shirou who was adopted by Emiya Kiritsugu and vowed to become a hero" would still remember the events of the original timeline, and thus to him the suffering of the victims would still exist. For him (and the victims who's lives had been changed or ended by the fire,) the dead wouldn't have come back, but instead people who were very similar but still ultimately not them would be wandering around in their place and bearing their names.
B: Time-travel is not a method where you can save everyone. If Saber had had her wish granted, and, in exchange for an eternity of servitude to Alaya, she was erased from history so someone else could have been crowned King and somehow save Camelot when she wasn't able to, then as a result all the people who would have died in "Altria's history" would have lived but also vice-versa, as those who conquered Camelot and lived in "Altria's history" would have been defeated/killed in "New King's history."
Add in the Butterfly Effect/Chaos Theory, and countless people throughout history will live instead of dying, and die instead of living (or in the case of the descendants of Camelot's inhabitants/conquerors, either born when they weren't before or never existed at all.) Therefore, Saber would not be able to claim to have "saved" people, but merely switched who lived and died on a grand scale, just to alleviate her feelings of guilt by "saving the people who were in front of her" (at the cost of a similar number of people,) and Shirou would not be able to tolerate an action that has so little or (even no) "net benefit" being carried out for selfish reasons.
However, that doesn't disprove that Shirou would make use of time-travel for something that could be said to have a colossal "net benefit," and thus I argued that Shirou would totally be on board for travelling back in time and shooting Hitler (or decapitating him with a sword, as that would be more "in-character.") Especially as his decision wouldn't be motivated by Survivor's guilt, but pure altruism.
What do you guys think?