Bleach Good Aizen

Abendroth

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#1
What if Aizen was a goodguy? Assume that Unohana takes Aizen's place as the evil mastermind, since she has that same aura of "I'm completely trustworthy, honest" that Aizen does.

Instead of setting up Hinamori to fight Hitsugaya, she frames Ukitake. She's deliberately made herself into a mother figure for Isane, so when she fakes her own death using a fake body the letter she leaves for Isane accuses Ukitake. Isane attacks an illness weakened Ukitake, who is defended by her sister, Kiyone, generating lots of angst and chaos, just like in the original. Central 46 is replaced by some clones or puppets of her own creation.


How does this change things? What would Good Aizen do? How would he spend his time after the SS arc?
 

zeebee1

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#2
Unohana would be have to be more powerful than canon. And considering how powerful she is she could probably take down Yamamato without releasing her sword. And Aizen, while powerful, would only have the level of power that everyone assumed he had. In other words, Unohana achives a flawless victory. Until Hanataro gets a surprise victory when he accidentally achieves his bankai and avenges Isane.
 

GenocideHeart

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#3
Why not instead make Aizen be a Well Intentioned Extremist? Have him have a completely noble goal, no questions... and then make him willing to do monstrous things for the sake of it.

It'd add a layer of conflict to the whole thing, since Soul Society itself didn't hesitate to do heinous things 'in the name of the Greater Good' in the past, and now... that point of view is coming back to bite them in the ass when someone uses it against THEM. One of their own no less.

As it is now, Aizen is a cliched Boring Invincible Villain with megalomaniacal tendencies. Adding some depth might be good.

Of course, this may be what Kubo has in mind all along, but my proposal is to make him be straightforward about his goals from the get-go - he'd state outright what he's doing and why, just to drive the point home that he's taking action to make things better instead of sitting on his hands, even if said actions are terrible.

"How can you accuse me of evil? Though these deeds be unsavory, no one will argue: good shall follow from them."
 

Abendroth

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#4
GenocideHeart said:
Why not instead make Aizen be a Well Intentioned Extremist? Have him have a completely noble goal, no questions... and then make him willing to do monstrous things for the sake of it.
Telling the story in first person perspective from Aizens point of view could be interesting. Unless he convinces some additional people, e.g. Ichigo, or perhaps Ishida, to join him, I would expect events to play out as they did in canon, just with slightly different speeches.
 

zeebee1

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#5
Well, certain sacrifices wouldn't be made. He killed Hallibel for no good reason, so I don't see that happening. His attitude would much different, and some of the battles would change because of it.
 

JumperPrime

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#6
GenocideHeart said:
Why not instead make Aizen be a Well Intentioned Extremist? Have him have a completely noble goal, no questions... and then make him willing to do monstrous things for the sake of it.

It'd add a layer of conflict to the whole thing, since Soul Society itself didn't hesitate to do heinous things 'in the name of the Greater Good' in the past, and now... that point of view is coming back to bite them in the ass when someone uses it against THEM. One of their own no less.

As it is now, Aizen is a cliched Boring Invincible Villain with megalomaniacal tendencies. Adding some depth might be good.

Of course, this may be what Kubo has in mind all along, but my proposal is to make him be straightforward about his goals from the get-go - he'd state outright what he's doing and why, just to drive the point home that he's taking action to make things better instead of sitting on his hands, even if said actions are terrible.

"How can you accuse me of evil? Though these deeds be unsavory, no one will argue: good shall follow from them."
Rukia's execution could've been arranged as a demonstration of how the Seiretei's legal system has become far more about rules than about justice. The Central 46 condemned the Vizards for something that was not their fault. By their order, Hitsugaya and his best friend were forced to fight to the death because they had the bad luck to wind up with identical Zanpakuto. Yamamoto-Genryusai had no problem with the order to execute Rukia for the crime of giving her powers to a human(from dialogue in the Soul Society arc, I got the impression that's like sentencing someone to death for Grand Theft Auto, of course, said dialogue did come from Aizen...) despite the odd choice of execution method(the big flaming chicken is supposed to be for Captain-level Shinigami only. Using it on a grunt like Rukia was pure, unmitigated overkill) and the time to execution being shortened several times in clear violation of established protocol, some red flags should've gone up, but didn't.

If Ichigo hadn't managed to get there in time, Aizen would've snatched Rukia clear without anyone being the wiser through a combination of his high-end Flash Step and his Zanpakuto's special ability.

His execution of the corrupt and totalitarian Central 46 could have been seen as justice, from a certain point of view.
 

zeebee1

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#7
I'm pretty sure the chicken came into play because Aizen ordered it. It is not standard procedure. Just like moving up her execution, or having one at all, is not standard procedure. It's a concequence of giving Chamber 46 too much power.
 
#8
Unohana.. the trusted healer
Unohana.. one of Yamamoto's oldest captains
Unohana.. who has had generations
to gently guide and shape and mold
to know them all and introduce one to another
to pair them off again and again seeking her ultimate goals

Aizen can have his Arrancar
Urahara can have his Vizards
For Unohana shall bring forth upon the lands of the living and the dead...
SUPERBABIES OF DOOM!
 

JumperPrime

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#12
zeebee1 said:
I'm pretty sure the chicken came into play because Aizen ordered it. It is not standard procedure. Just like moving up her execution, or having one at all, is not standard procedure. It's a concequence of giving Chamber 46 too much power.
No no no. You don't quite get it. Yes, Aizen arranged it all. He intentionally set things up so anybody with a lick of common sense would say "WTF? Something weird is going on here. This is highly irregular. I need to double check these orders and there is not going to be an execution until I understand what's going on here."

It was a test, to see who was willfully blind and who had the courage to stand up to The Man and say "NO! This is not right!" Yamamoto-Genryusai failed the test by blithely accepting every order he thought came from Central 46, no matter how inane. Several of the other captains flunked as well, such as Soi Fon, Byakuya, and Komamura. He was quite proud of Shunsui and Ukitake however, to actually go as far as they did exceeded his expectations.

Hanatarou was a surprise dark horse, as well. Aizen never expected a mid-seat from 4th Division to risk so much for a Shinigami who he barely knew. Hanatarou could have easily gotten himself killed helping the ryoka, even if his Zanpaktou wasn't virtually useless in combat, a Captain or even a Lieutenant could filet Hanatarou before he could even draw his Zanpakuto, assuming he had remembered to grab it at all the morning he met Ichigo & Ganju, yet he was indispensable at patching Ichigo up after his fight with Renji and even took out the guards blocking the way to the Repentence Cell with a simple anestetic.
 

zeebee1

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#13
Technically, if the 46 survived Hitsugaya could have been executed for investigating the odd orders they sent out. Some say it takes courage to go against the system. But some systems are such that questioning them just leads to death.
 

JumperPrime

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#14
zeebee1 said:
Technically, if the 46 survived Hitsugaya could have been executed for investigating the odd orders they sent out. Some say it takes courage to go against the system. But some systems are such that questioning them just leads to death.
That's the sorta system that NEEDS to be torn down. It's the same sorta system they've got in Iran, and that existed in Iraq until we kicked Saddam Hussein out of his palace and into a jail cell. Government is supposed to SERVE the people, not oppress them. When questioning the government becomes an executable offense, the only responsible option for those who love freedom is to rebel, which would be about what Aizen did when he slaughtered the Central 46, cutting off the head of the serpent and all that jazz.

Geez, this thread is getting serious if it's got me rooting for the canon Big Bad. I've hated Aizen ever since he stabbed Momo despite her obvious dedication to him, and now I'm singing "Good Aizen's" praises

:crazy:
 

DrTempo

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#15
JumperPrime said:
zeebee1 said:
Technically, if the 46 survived Hitsugaya could have been executed for investigating the odd orders they sent out. Some say it takes courage to go against the system. But some systems are such that questioning them just leads to death.
That's the sorta system that NEEDS to be torn down. It's the same sorta system they've got in Iran, and that existed in Iraq until we kicked Saddam Hussein out of his palace and into a jail cell. Government is supposed to SERVE the people, not oppress them. When questioning the government becomes an executable offense, the only responsible option for those who love freedom is to rebel, which would be about what Aizen did when he slaughtered the Central 46, cutting off the head of the serpent and all that jazz.

Geez, this thread is getting serious if it's got me rooting for the canon Big Bad. I've hated Aizen ever since he stabbed Momo despite her obvious dedication to him, and now I'm singing "Good Aizen's" praises

:crazy:
Well, who DOESN'T like a guy fighting for justice(minus the baddies)?
 

zeebee1

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#16
It doesn't change the fact that going against such governments is a tad dangerous. Now for people like Aizen that's one thing. But Hitsugaya's actions were potentially treasonous. And unlike Unohana and the other oldies he didn't have seniority. If the 46 were alive, war or no war, he'd be thrown in the Pit.
 

Whiteagle

Well-Known Member
#17
zeebee1 said:
It doesn't change the fact that going against such governments is a tad dangerous. Now for people like Aizen that's one thing. But Hitsugaya's actions were potentially treasonous. And unlike Unohana and the other oldies he didn't have seniority. If the 46 were alive, war or nor war, he'd be thrown in the Pit.
No Z...
Shiro-chan would have been given a time-out.
 
#18
sidhereelmotion said:
Unohana.. the trusted healer
Unohana.. one of Yamamoto's oldest captains
Unohana.. who has had generations
to gently guide and shape and mold
to know them all and introduce one to another
to pair them off again and again seeking her ultimate goals

Aizen can have his Arrancar
Urahara can have his Vizards
For Unohana shall bring forth upon the lands of the living and the dead...
SUPERBABIES OF DOOM!
I would read this story. And I would enjoy it.
 

goldenarms

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#19
You know, every time I see this title pop up on the most recent bar, I can't help but think of the movie "Good Dick."
 
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