Digimon GOSPEL

kitsuneb

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#1
to those who remember this little series, and those who wish to ask question or even discuss theories of this unforgettable seires. I have a question: Takako/Gabriel was Lillith and Arisa was Sophia, does that mean Alice is the incarnation of Adam's first wife?
 

Ryuugi

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#2
kitsuneb said:
to those who remember this little series, and those who wish to ask question or even discuss theories of this unforgettable seires. I have a question: Takako/Gabriel was Lillith and Arisa was Sophia, does that mean Alice is the incarnation of Adam's first wife?
Lilith (ie. Takako) was Adam's first wife. You're thinking of Shekinah (the Second wife). And, well, maybe. It's a bit complicated, because of her RS: Glorious Seed of Transmigration û A Million Blessings for My Beloved.

http://drgospel.pbworks.com/Reality_Script...sforMyBelovedàà
 

kitsuneb

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#3
Sorry must've read that scene wrong then. here's another thing. in one scene of GOSPEL 0 Alice mentions that mp3 format is considered an old version of compressing, and rika is entering junior high, aka seventh grade, and another has arisa born 2018, so what can be considered a timeline for this thing?
 

Ryuugi

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#4
Consider the Tamer's (or at least Takato) to have been born the same time Tamers was aired in real life. Takako was born a few years before Takato, and Card-o-rama began a few months after the events in Digimon Tamers ended. From there, you know the timeline of Tamers Forever. Then, Takato spent two years and (I think) six months in America with Alice before returning to Japan for Book 01. Book 02 started a month later. From there, we don't know what happened, but Arisu was born in 12-03-21 according to the Prologue of Book 01 ( the six-number sequence 123021 written backwards).

Besides that, the events of True Stories, as well as the Prologue's and Epilogue's, happened as follows:

2018/07/27 - TS02
2018/12/17 - TS04 - "Of The Case of Hatsumura Satsuki"
2018/12/22 - TS07 - "Of A Very Jolly Loli Christmas"
2019/01/01 - TS08 - "Of Takato's New Year Trouble"
2019/02/14 - TS10 - "Of A Bittersweet Valentine"
2028/??/?? - TS01 - "Of Susie's Love & Future"
2031/03/30 - TS12 - "Of Lilith & Sophia, Chapter One"
2031/07/05 - TS06 - "Of Arisu's Unusual School Trip"
2031/07/06 - TS09 - "Of Takako's Disciple, Minami Kotoko"
2032/01/28 - Book 1 Prologue/Epilogue
2032/01/31 - Book 2 Prologue/Epilogue
2032/02/04 - TS03 - "Of Arisu's Research Concerning DC"
2032/03/07 - TS11 - "Of How Suzie Became a Goddess"
2032/08/02 - TS05 - "Of Takako's Final Damnation"
 

Daneel Rush

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#5
kitsuneb said:
to those who remember this little series, and those who wish to ask question or even discuss theories of this unforgettable seires. I have a question: Takako/Gabriel was Lillith and Arisa was Sophia, does that mean Alice is the incarnation of Adam's first wife?
Like Ryuugi implied, Shekinah was fragmented into a number of people, including Jeri, Ruki and DC. The pieces would have reunited in Book 6.

Alice was intended to be "the normal one" throughout the story. She was not an incarnation of anything. She was just a normal human, with no powers and no involvement in the Holy War, other than being Takato's wife, of course.

Rika's daughter's name is Arisu. As in the transliteration of "Alice." Indeed, Rika named her daughter after Alice McCoy. Funny thing, that.
 

kitsuneb

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#6
Rika, Jeri and DC! The last one, while unexpected, explains a lot of things.
 

Ryuugi

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#7
kitsuneb said:
Rika, Jeri and DC! The last one, while unexpected, explains a lot of things.
No, not Rika. Ruki. Takato's Omnivice Trait, who was in the Ruby Omnivice. The fact that she was an incarnation of Shekinah was, more-or-less, stated in 'The Ruby Ring', in which the words 'A Million Blessings for My Beloved' appeared on Takato's new Omnivice.
 

kitsuneb

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#8
Ryuugi said:
kitsuneb said:
Rika, Jeri and DC! The last one, while unexpected, explains a lot of things.
No, not Rika. Ruki. Takato's Omnivice Trait, who was in the Ruby Omnivice. The fact that she was an incarnation of Shekinah was, more-or-less, stated in 'The Ruby Ring', in which the words 'A Million Blessings for My Beloved' appeared on Takato's new Omnivice.
got to have my glasses checked
 

Ryuugi

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#9
For those who have no idea what we are talking about, GOSPEL was a work of fanfiction by Daneel Rush before he started his Naruto stories. The prequels, Tamers Forever, can be found here:

http://www.fanfiction.net/u/66727/Daneel_Rush

Books 00 and 01 can be found on Daneels Tripod site, here (along with other information about GOSPEL):

http://daneelrush.tripod.com/
 

Ryuugi

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#13
Sorry for the triple post.

This is a question aimed mainly at Daneel, but if anyone else knows anyting, please share. We know the names of all the Gospel Stories:

òBook One: Trials of Worthiness

òBook Two: The Ruby Ring

òBook Three: Digimon Battle Arena

òBook Four: Four Tales From Four Evangelists

òBook Five: The Last Holy War

òBook Six: Revelation

òBook Seven: Promise of the Setting Sun

And the two Side Stories, GOSPEL: Gathering of the Exalted and GOSPEL: Pandemonium Puppet Show.

However, this is pretty much all we know about them. Could you tell us a bit more about them? Sans Book One, of course.
 

Daneel Rush

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#14
Oh man. That's a big ass question. I'm sure I sent an incomplete GOSPEL chronology to somebody here, and I even promised to send him the completed version once I had it done...never got to doing that. My bad.

I should check that chronology one last time for consistency and just put it on the Tripod site or something.

Anyway, what can I write here?

The Ruby Ring: it was supposed to cover the interval between the end of Takato's forty days of seclusion (mirroring a certain someone from the Bible...) and the beginning of the Holy War. September 2018, to be precise. It began with Ruki's awakening as Lucifer Diabolos, Takato's improved Omnivice and DC meeting Lillia-chan. A young Tamer, Isaac Tong, mysteriously wakes up in a damp alley in Tokyo, half a world away from his home.

The very beginning of the Holy War is a big sky battle between Takato, Takako, DC and Isaac Tong versus the Archdemon Moloch and his Digimon partner, Chimeramon.

The climax of the story occurs two days later, on September 13 (Takako's b-day!). Moloch unleashes a horde of Digimon modified in disgusting ways, led by a monstrosity: the very first of the failures from Project ADAM, turned into an abomination. It's a huge battle, and lots of stuff happens, most importantly the Digi-Destined's encounter with Taichi, Takato and Takako using Ninlil for the first time, and Suzie's bloody battle with Leraje, the Demon of Gangrene.

After the battle, Takako introduces herself to the Archangels as Takato's imouto, and hands over the Seeds of Sephiroth, which become cards. The Omnivice Traits (sans Ruki) meet for the first time, which leads to a few amusing situations.

And Takato still remains hidden.

I forgot to mention, the title, "The Ruby Ring," refers to Alice's wedding ring. It would come up in a school scene, and Alice would reveal that, yes, she's married. She does not mention to whom, though.

Digimon Battle Arena: It was something the Hypnos organizations had planned since the Daemon War and the Tamers' ascension to fame. Digimon still have detractors, of course, and there's the issue that we have children fighting for their lives. By showing what they can do in a controlled environment, and showing that they are in no way coerced to fight, the image of the Tamers as "protectors of the world" would soar. Digimon Tamers from all over the globe are brought to Tokyo, and some of the Digi-Destined also decide to join this interesting tournament. Finally, Suzie convinces Takato to join in the guise of MedievalGallantmon, the mysterious wild Digimon.

So, this book is pretty much fight after fight after fight. Of course, some very interesting things happen during the tournament.

Takako had sworn to kill DC should he not show any progress in his Supernal training. Well, she finally decided to follow on that promise. There's also the issue with the Russian Tamers, who also happen to be incarnated Divinities with an agenda of their own. The Archangels use their tournament as a chance to try out their new Instrumental Weapons. Suzie shows her answer to the issue of the arm she lost in the fight against Leraje, and she proves in the tournament that she's growing at a ridiculous pace (if she didn't fight who she fought in her first battle, she'd have probably won, or at least made it to the final). Takato and Takako use the fights as stimuli to help them understand their supernatural powers. And, of course, Moloch chooses to send out his Second Chimera (the second Project ADAM reject) just after the final match. After the fight, in which Rika put everything she had (literally), she's too exhausted to fight the monstrosity. Takato is the only one who can save her, at the cost of his secrecy. The inevitable meeting would finally take place.
 

Ryuugi

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#16
Ah, I hadn't even noticed your edit. Sorry about that. And Thank you.

I have another question, though. I know about the Archangels Agendas (as well as some information about the first three), but, besides Lilith, we know nothing about the Archdemons. Can you tell us anything about them? I'd be fine with just knowing their (or even just Moloch's) Agendas.

Edit: Also, Digimon Battle Arena sounds awesome. Thanks again for doing this Daneel.
 
#17
Figured I'd post what stuff Daneel sent me for you guys.

The thing I'll ask right now is when you say Renamon, do you mean Rika's Renamon, or the Renamon I read in one of the GOSPEL chapters in which it digivolved from an in-training after managing to outsmart a Ninjamon and ... some other one?
THAT Renamon became Moloch's Digimon partner and proceeded to evolve to Togemogumon, Chimeramon and finally Millenniumon.
Well, I suppose the big question I have is just what is that "Betrayal" Takako kept on talking about and how "Onii-chan" wasn't Onii-chan anymore. Did Takato fuse with his "brother" at the final battle or something?
On the Day of the Beast (June 6th, 2020), Takato fights Moloch and MoonMillenniumon together. When Takato's Boundary of Concept and Nothingness clashes with MoonMillenniumon's Chrono Paradox, SOMETHING happens, resulting in a big explosion and a tear in the fabric of the universe. When the dust clears, Moloch is the only one standing. However, he is weakened and escapes to regain strength to kill the other Archangels.

Moloch returns around one year (Arisu is a baby three months old) later. Takako suddenly disappears. The nine remaining Archangels enter the Temple of Damnation and defeat the Archdemons (including a horrifying final battle between DC and Takako, who reveals herself as both the Ninth Archangel and the Tenth Archdemon).

As a side note, in these battles Ryo loses an arm (which is replaced by Suzie with an artificial one), Takeru ends up paralyzed from the waist below and Hikari become unable to have children. Jeri had already lost an eye during the Battle of Armageddon.

Unfortunately, Moloch's Reality Script makes him immune to all damage. When the other Tamers and Digidestined manage break into the Temple, Terriermon urges the Archangels to make a Sephirotic formation and slash their Sephiroth Cards together. At the same time, Takato, who had been trapped in Limbo with Guilmon and ZeedMillenniumon, slashes his Kether Card. This activates the final hidden protocol within the Omnivices, allowing Takato to bio-merge with Guilmon, Terriermon and ZeedMillenniumon (devolved to Renamon) to reach his final form of Adonamon.

Adonamon uses his Digital Apocalypse to obliterate both Moloch, his alter ego Satan (the two Archdemons were sharing the same body) and the entire Digital World. Then he uses Digital Genesis to create a new Digital World. This was the whole point of taking the Holy War to the Material Realms. Digimon needed one last thing to be a true digital reflection of humankind: a God.

Adonamon, by merging Adam Kadmon, Metatron and two Takatos, is the ultimate superbeing. He will reign over the Digital World from the unreachable fortress of Merkava. That means he will not devolve, ever. One last time, Takato disappears from everyone's lives.

And that's the end of Book Six. Did that answer your question?
All I got, or rather all that you really need to know. Unless you're that curious about the minute details of my OCs I created and bugged Daneel for info for.
 

Ryuugi

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#18
Thank you very much for posting that, Stranger. And please share your OCs.

Based on the 'by merging Adam Kadmon, Metatron and two Takatos,' part, it seems that Takato did merge with Moloch (the only other Takato we know of), which I admit to having thought as well. Unless something weird happened and he somehow bent time and merged with the original Takato. That's interesting, and makes me want to know about Moloch even more, as well as Satan.

Also, Adonamon sounds awesome, as do those fights.

Though this doesn't explain 'those two' that were refered to in True Stories 9.
 
#19
Hephaestus. He is unique in that he has no offensive Instrumental Weapons which usually would make him a liability. However, he has the extremely rare ability to repair and forge new Instrumental Weapons for Gods, Archangels, whoever could find and satisfy him enough. After this was submitted, I thought of giving him 1 Weapon with which to attack. His summons his 'army' of Golden Automatons who really serve as nothing more than a distraction to the stronger enemies the Tamers face. However, before I turned this idea in, Daneel decided to cancel GOSPEL.

I'll be frank here and say that this dude in my mind was a total Gary Stu. Due to his prior life as a god, he was considered a genius and was heavily interested in robotics since he grew up in the 70's and 80's. In fact, that's the reason he knows Japanese. Japan was dominating the world economic markets back then and they are the only ones to have made any decent development into Robotics. He had tons of money from Government and Corporate Contracts and was essentially a recluse, only interested in SCIENCE! That said, I tried to make him extremely arrogant and socially ignorant to show how alienated he is compared to the others, but he hadn't shown up in GOSPEL so who know what his final characterization might have been like.

Oh, and his role in GOSPEL.

As for Hephaestus, Takako would seek him out at some point between Books Two and Three and "ask" him to repair her Prismatic Seal of Catharsis. After that, he would join Takato seeking protection. He would find a role thanks to Jeri, who would ask him to craft Instrumental Weapons for her so she can fire them with her bow, Gandiva. Sorta like Archer's "Broken Phantasm," but with two people. That strategy would cause Takato a lot of trouble in the Digimon Battle Arena.
Second Character was Choi Min-suk. A Korean War veteran and a dying bitter old man. He was a convenience store clerk near Takato's appartment where he became acquaintances of the Tamers and Digidestined. Dies near the end of the story. Daneel was thinking of him dying as a random bystander or have a True Story with him as a main character.
 

Ryuugi

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#20
Hey, I remember them. Takako talked about Hephaestus Forge (and that she should have taken it when she had the chance), and we met Choi Min-suk in The Ruby Ring.

Edit: Also, It's always nice to hear about more IW's. Gandiva - Divine Bow of Sacred Flame and Boundless Energy (going by the Tripod site). Nice to know more about it.
 
#21
Hehe, nice to see you remember throwaway lines and minute scenes. I'm feeling an enormous amount of pride that I should not feel seeing as how I didn't write shit. And also nice to see a fan of GOSPEL. It was easily one of the greatest fics around when it was up and was building a massive mythos. Also, it was really cool to see how his writing evolved from his early stories to his more recent ones. Although I have to admit that the Naruto humor stories have been a great source of disappointment to me. It was focusing way too much on gags and humor and not enough on plot so I dropped it a long time ago. And seeing as how I'm posting my feelings on this for the first time I have to say this.

God, I'm sorry Daneel, but you can not imagine how disappointed I was when you erased this series and Death and Beyond. WHHHHYYYYYYYYYY!?!?!?

Take pity on us fans ;_;

Also, it seems kind of weird that you complained about Death and Beyond being way too much fantasy when, well look at GOSPEL. And Genkyouien.
 

Ryuugi

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#22
A Curious Stranger said:
Hehe, nice to see you remember throwaway lines and minute scenes. I'm feeling an enormous amount of pride that I should not feel seeing as how I didn't write shit. And also nice to see a fan of GOSPEL. It was easily one of the greatest fics around when it was up and was building a massive mythos. Also, it was really cool to see how his writing evolved from his early stories to his more recent ones. Although I have to admit that the Naruto humor stories have been a great source of disappointment to me. It was focusing way too much on gags and humor and not enough on plot so I dropped it a long time ago. And seeing as how I'm posting my feelings on this for the first time I have to say this.

God, I'm sorry Daneel, but you can not imagine how disappointed I was when you erased this series and Death and Beyond. WHHHHYYYYYYYYYY!?!?!?

Take pity on us fans ;_;

Also, it seems kind of weird that you complained about Death and Beyond being way too much fantasy when, well look at GOSPEL. And Genkyouien.
If memory serves (and I apologize if this is wrong, Daneel), Daneel removed Death and Beyond because Death and Beyond was one of Daneel's original works. Later, he replaced the names of the Characters with the names we saw (Takato, etc.), but I imagine that while the story looked awesome to us, it just wasn't the same to him. Especially given the effort he put into Death and Beyond (if I remember correctly, he originally wrote the whole story on paper, and then wrote it again on the Computer).

I can understand not liking how something has been changed after putting that much work into it. Even if you are the one changing it.

(Also, there is a difference between adding more fantasy to a setting that's already extremely sci-fi (such as Digimon and Naruto), and creating one out of nothing, especially since the altered version had none of the Digimon related things from the series, but nonetheless used the names of the characters.)
 

ranmatoushin

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#23
Death and Beyond was still fucking cool i still have it saved on my computer and read it every couple of months
 
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