PCHeintz72 said:
ThreadWeaver said:
Contrabardus said:
PCHeintz72 said:
I have most of the Flashback units (Atari, Coleco, Intelli, Sega, Retro Duo), we combine that with a number of my brothers older game consoles (N64, Playstation II,PLaystation 4, Wii-U) and have them all on a rolling rack unit next to the basement entertainment center, with a big AC power center and 2 massive RCA switchboxes to swich between all the units.
I have a Raspberry Pi. I can emulate every game console and handheld released before 2000 on it at once, as well as pretty close to their full libraries, and a large assortment of arcade titles, and store it all in my pocket. Including a gamepad that can be used to play most of them.
It also has Bluetooth, so the games that need more than a Snes style pad I can just use a PS4 or Xbox 1 controller to play.
Yes, you probably can, but I suspect PCHeintz is attempting to do his thing legally. Just because you're stealing from a massive soulless corporation, that doesn't make it right, and most of the ROMS available for those emulators are in fact stolen by means of illegally reading and distributing the ROM images.
Well.. that is certainly a big part of it, but another is the fact that even though the various flashback and retro systems are *not* the originals, they still somewhat give the nostalgia of retro gaming and feel of having dedicated consoles in front of you. I've used emulators, and still have them, the problem is I never feel comfortable playing the games that way, it always feels off to me.
Consider also a flashback system can be had very cheap. I got the Sega, Coleco, and Intelli flashbacks at about $30 each when I was looking. My brother paid slightly higher for the Atari flashback in the combined collection of consoles. The Retro Duo I have was also fairly cheap. The Nintendo 64 and the Playstations were all older units we had collecting dust and cost nothing. We also have a conversion cartridge to allow gameboy cartridges to be used on the Retro Duo... So between the built in games, and all the old cartridges/discs in various formats we've collected... we've no end of potential games to play.
Back in the day, each of the raw consoles would have been a couple hundred dollars or more. Likewise, a modern console is not cheap. So the entire setup only have a total combined additional cost equivelent of around 1 console. And that included buying the cheap rolling Rack unit and the RCA switch boxes.
I can see where you might assume that I obtained them illegally, but I really didn't.
I own a legitimate copy of every game I have on my Pi. I also still own every console and cartridge I've ever owned and have been a collector since the 70s.
I also did the work of creating the ROMs myself for the most part, and those I did not I bought legally from licensed retailers [mostly arcade machine ROMs in that case]. I modified and/or hacked the consoles or media and ripped them myself. It's been a hobby of mine for more than 15 years. A few of them I've created by taking digital versions and hacked the DRM to get them to work with emulators as well.
It's not even particularly hard to do in most cases, just time consuming, and was stupidly cheap as I got most of the hardware and games from pawn shops over the years.
It's not illegal to do for personal use. Its only when you distribute the software that it becomes a legal problem. It is worth pointing out that "not illegal" is not the same thing as "legal" as strange as that sounds. There actually is a middle ground between the two. You can be not breaking any laws and still not be legally protected or have a "right" to be doing something.
Before anyone chimes in about the legal mumbo-jumbo they slap on packaging or downloads and call "license agreements", they often overreach what they can actually legally restrict you from doing and are frequently unenforceable and would not stand up in court. [Again, assuming you are -not- distributing and are only using the software privately and for personal use only.]
A lot of the language in license agreements on packaging is kind of like the "removal of this sticker voids warranty" you'll find on electronics. It isn't actually true and they can't legally void a warranty because stickers like that are compromised.
If I'm being honest here, I don't really see any moral issues with downloading and using a Rom for any game you already legally own if you don't have the skill, time, or inclination to rip them yourself.
This doesn't mean downloading the new upgraded version of a game for a new console with a bunch of extra features that you don't own. That is definitely stealing.
If you own Donkey Kong for the NES, there isn't really anything morally wrong with downloading the exact same version of Donkey Kong for the NES as a ROM so you can run it in an emulator on your PC, even if it isn't 100% legal.