More Cast Photos from "Harry Potter and the Cursed Child"
...is someone fucking with me? What the hell is this?
...is someone fucking with me? What the hell is this?
Harry Potter Harry Potter and the Cursed Child?
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Sure it's a shameless, pointless cash grab. You're delusional if you think nobody will see it though. Preorder of the book of the script is currently 2nd place in amazon book sales, and as of 19:25 eastern US time June 8, every date from the July premier to end of the year is sold out except for one showing on Dec. 7 (according to their ticket sales website).
I didn't say nobody would see it. I said nobody would even give this a cursory glance. This meaning this topic.
This topic is going to be two things: disbelief that this shit is real, and meta conversation about people's reactions to it. Everyone who gives a shit about Harry Potter already went through this a long time ago and gave up on the plot of Harry Potter not being a steaming pile of shit.
That's why we like fanfiction- to do things with the world that isn't steaming piles of shit.
This topic is going to be two things: disbelief that this shit is real, and meta conversation about people's reactions to it. Everyone who gives a shit about Harry Potter already went through this a long time ago and gave up on the plot of Harry Potter not being a steaming pile of shit.
That's why we like fanfiction- to do things with the world that isn't steaming piles of shit.
Half assed versus deliberate subversion pretty much amount to the same amount of hate from any fandom anyways. It's a push. Everyone has to know that it was probably a deliberate choice for the casting, so if they are pushing some other agenda in the process, so be it.
Like I said, I'm not into next gen stuff anyways so I have no feelings for or against this. It might as well not exist to me since it isn't canon anyways. I'll ignore it just like I do the expanded stuff from Pottermore.
Like I said, I'm not into next gen stuff anyways so I have no feelings for or against this. It might as well not exist to me since it isn't canon anyways. I'll ignore it just like I do the expanded stuff from Pottermore.
1. That "this" referred to the forum thread rather than the play is not clear from context.
2. Despite what people here and on DLP think, the majority of HP fans are not fanfiction readers or writers, and like the story just fine as it is. In fact, comparing the opening-day sales of book 7 to the number of stories on FFN in any language, I'd wager that fanfiction readers and writers aren't even 10% of the actual number of people that read the books. Of course, for every ff that I like better than the books, there's at least 4 that are unreadably bad, or just plain stupid. Anything which pairs Harry or Hermione with either Malfoy or Snape comes to mind. Make no mistake, I definitely prefer a well-written fanfic to the last 3 books, but on balance, 4 reasonably good books and 3 piles of shit is preferable to the hundreds of thousands of steaming piles of shit written by others.
3. I'd have expected people here to be more tolerant of the play. Is it just jealousy that Jack Thorne's fanfic was deemed good enough to put on stage?
On topic: why does anyone care that the actress playing Hermione is black? I can't recall anything in the books saying she's not. The only things that come to mind about the races of any character are the Patils, Chang, and Dean Thomas and Kingsley specifically being mentioned as black.
2. Despite what people here and on DLP think, the majority of HP fans are not fanfiction readers or writers, and like the story just fine as it is. In fact, comparing the opening-day sales of book 7 to the number of stories on FFN in any language, I'd wager that fanfiction readers and writers aren't even 10% of the actual number of people that read the books. Of course, for every ff that I like better than the books, there's at least 4 that are unreadably bad, or just plain stupid. Anything which pairs Harry or Hermione with either Malfoy or Snape comes to mind. Make no mistake, I definitely prefer a well-written fanfic to the last 3 books, but on balance, 4 reasonably good books and 3 piles of shit is preferable to the hundreds of thousands of steaming piles of shit written by others.
3. I'd have expected people here to be more tolerant of the play. Is it just jealousy that Jack Thorne's fanfic was deemed good enough to put on stage?
On topic: why does anyone care that the actress playing Hermione is black? I can't recall anything in the books saying she's not. The only things that come to mind about the races of any character are the Patils, Chang, and Dean Thomas and Kingsley specifically being mentioned as black.
1. That's... nice? 
2. Nearly every single Harry Potter fan (that's actually a lie, I don't know anyone that read the Harry Potter books that doens't feel this way) that I know of think the last 3-4 books are train wrecks, and only one of them is a fanfic writer/reader. Not really just a regional thing either, since I did a fair amount of moving around the time Harry Potter was big. Ancedotal evidence and all, but it's not just fanfic authors that feel that way. Also, those hundreds of thousands of steaming piles of shit didn't make their authors fat sacks of cash.
3. People aren't tolerant of the play because it's a blatant cash grab by someone clearly more interested in manufacturing drama than making a good play.
That's why people are so annoyed that the actress playing Hermione is black- the manufactured drama. Someone calls bullshit on blond Ron, people go 'yeah that's really stupid what the fuck.' Same thing with every other horribly cast person in the play- except Hermione. Someone calls bullshit on Hermione's casting, and instantly you get slammed with death threats and cries of racism.
Like what the fuck. The book was very clear that Hermione was not black. At least try to put in the slightest bit of goddamn effort with your casting with your shitty little cash grab, goddamn. And especially don't try to manufacture drama about race to try divert attention from how shitty your casting is.
2. Nearly every single Harry Potter fan (that's actually a lie, I don't know anyone that read the Harry Potter books that doens't feel this way) that I know of think the last 3-4 books are train wrecks, and only one of them is a fanfic writer/reader. Not really just a regional thing either, since I did a fair amount of moving around the time Harry Potter was big. Ancedotal evidence and all, but it's not just fanfic authors that feel that way. Also, those hundreds of thousands of steaming piles of shit didn't make their authors fat sacks of cash.
3. People aren't tolerant of the play because it's a blatant cash grab by someone clearly more interested in manufacturing drama than making a good play.
That's why people are so annoyed that the actress playing Hermione is black- the manufactured drama. Someone calls bullshit on blond Ron, people go 'yeah that's really stupid what the fuck.' Same thing with every other horribly cast person in the play- except Hermione. Someone calls bullshit on Hermione's casting, and instantly you get slammed with death threats and cries of racism.
Like what the fuck. The book was very clear that Hermione was not black. At least try to put in the slightest bit of goddamn effort with your casting with your shitty little cash grab, goddamn. And especially don't try to manufacture drama about race to try divert attention from how shitty your casting is.
Spoilers for the play are out
It's shit. I thought it'd be interesting to see a play with harry potter, for all the technical stuff it would require. But man this plot sounds like some some standard fanfiction stuff.
It's shit. I thought it'd be interesting to see a play with harry potter, for all the technical stuff it would require. But man this plot sounds like some some standard fanfiction stuff.
Book 3 had such good time travel, with very little paradox. And then they come out with this syfy level time travel plot with more paradoxes than a convention of philosophers.
Wouldn't be surprised. Sounds terrible as it is, so using whatever methods they can to get as much interest and publicity seems about right.
I'll be honest, probably would have been better to have the fanfiction writers have a crack at it. Probably would have saved them time, effort, and they still would have had something better than what this sounds like. Here's hoping they can fix it in the month and a half before the premiere, but I doubt it.
I'll be honest, probably would have been better to have the fanfiction writers have a crack at it. Probably would have saved them time, effort, and they still would have had something better than what this sounds like. Here's hoping they can fix it in the month and a half before the premiere, but I doubt it.
I honestly wonder if maybe J.K. Rowling, even after she got big and popular, was still contractually obligated by Bloomsbury (her publisher) to spend lots of time with an editor who would discuss her plot elements, prose, symbolism, etc.
Then she finished her contract with Book 7 and her writing has descended into utter shit since she's an ultra-popular writer who doesn't need to listen to nobody and her new work is the Prequel Trilogy of the Harry Potter series.
Then she finished her contract with Book 7 and her writing has descended into utter shit since she's an ultra-popular writer who doesn't need to listen to nobody and her new work is the Prequel Trilogy of the Harry Potter series.
Wouldn't surprise me. Lots of authors let their fame/personal issues affect their writing.
Stephen King let his alcoholism and drug use mess with his writing, and we got The Tommyknockers (which King has said he hates).
Laurel K. Hamilton got divorced, and suddenly Anita Blake was fucking everything in sight, damn near, and just went overboard with the superpowers.
Then there's Stephanie Meyers... actually, Twilight was shit from the very beginning. Forget that one.
Stephen King let his alcoholism and drug use mess with his writing, and we got The Tommyknockers (which King has said he hates).
Laurel K. Hamilton got divorced, and suddenly Anita Blake was fucking everything in sight, damn near, and just went overboard with the superpowers.
Then there's Stephanie Meyers... actually, Twilight was shit from the very beginning. Forget that one.