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da_fox2279

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Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
honestly, if divination started actually making sense in a logical and sensible manner because of a discovery I don't think Hermione would have an issue with it anymore, beyond Trelawney being a dipshit.
 

zerohour

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I think Hermione's major problems with Divination were threefold.

-First off, it's a woolly subject.  There's no hard and fast right and wrong for her to follow the rules on.

-She was completely overloaded and going insane from that and lack of sleep.

-She wasn't very good at it.


If she hadn't been taking way more classes than she should have,n I could have seen her sticking with it out of sheer stubbornness.  If it was less esoteric, she would have just done what the books told her to do and succeeded because that's what she does.   If she was good at it, she wouldn't have gotten frustrated in the first place.
 

Innortal

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zerohour said:
I think Hermione's major problems with Divination were threefold.

-First off, it's a woolly subject.  There's no hard and fast right and wrong for her to follow the rules on.

-She was completely overloaded and going insane from that and lack of sleep.

-She wasn't very good at it.


If she hadn't been taking way more classes than she should have,n I could have seen her sticking with it out of sheer stubbornness.  If it was less esoteric, she would have just done what the books told her to do and succeeded because that's what she does.   If she was good at it, she wouldn't have gotten frustrated in the first place.
Don't forget the teacher, too.  One might doubt how well she knew the subject.  And even if she knew it well, the fact she made Lockhart-isk presentations of it in class, could have turned her off as well.
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
It's not even so much that she 'wasn't very good at it,' it's that she was too honest to make bullshit up with no rhyme or reason that was BLATANTLY false, so her grade suffered.

When you've fucked up so badly HERMIONE doesn't recognize you as a Professor (she even kept harping on about 'Professor' Snape) you know you fucked up.
 

zerohour

Well-Known Member
Yeah, Trelawney certainly didn't help the situation along, but didn't someone say that all of her predictions from the first class or first year or something come true?  If that is the case, then her teaching method is terrible, just like Snape, as opposed to being a fraud.  In which case the only difference is how Hermione was doing in the class.

Also, didn't Hermione love Lockhart as a teacher?

Don't remember the specifics of Hermione's attempt at divination homework.  Would have to go back and reread the book, but I wouldn't be surprised if she let the "proper" way of doing things get in her way.  Just thinking of Half Blood Prince when Hermione starts freaking out about Harry not following the rules with the book.  Sure, some of that was probably because he was doing better than her, but some of it must have been jealousy.

I think part of me is growing less enamored with Hermione as a character as I get older.  Might be because I'm actually analyzing the story instead of just enjoying it.


Also, I think Hermione might have been a racist towards House Elves.  Telling an entire culture that they're wrong and trying to trick them into doing things your way... yeah, kind of sketchy.  Especially because they're an entirely different species.  Kind of wonder what would happen if any of her friends read Speaker of the Dead.  Might make for an amusing short story.
 

zerohour

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Broke that down.  About 298 non-negotiable cost for students, about $375 in US Dollars for things that can't be transferred, assuming everyone keeps their gloves, cauldrons, scales, phials, and telescopes after school is over, instead of giving them to younger siblings/friends of the family.



674 pounds, or about $850 US Dollars are for things that could be passed down to the next year, for a grand total of about 6000 for every year.  Hogwarts costs less than $1,000 dollars a year assuming you buy everything new, you could probably get it significantly cheaper if you're pinching pennies.

12000+2625= 14625 total spent for the Weasley;s to send all of their kids to Hogwarts (assuming books and the like are passed down, and buying two of everything for Fred and George.  If they had to share, drops to 575 a year.)


How poor were the Weasley's that they couldn't afford decent stuff?  Alternatively, how much did they hate Ron that they couldn't drop fifty bucks for a new wand?


Hell, they probably SAVED money sending their kids to Hogwarts, simply because they didn't need to FEED them for most of the year!   Seriously, how do you manage to be poor with freaking magic?!   DAMN IT ROWLING!   Transfiguration alone takes care of a huge number of basic needs, like furniture, clothes, dishes, and other simple things we use without thinking.  Herbology probably has some fast growing fruit plant to feed everyone.   Ditto for Magical creatures and Meat/Dairy.   Charms fill the role of pretty much every basic machine we have. Potions probably covers basic medicine plus a variety of other effects...  Runes, Arithmancy, Astronomy, Divination, Muggle Studies, and History of Magic probably wouldn't affect things too much, though Muggle Studies would probably let them make a killing in business on that side...

Damn, how fucking incompetent are wizards that they manage to fuck shit up so badly that they are poor!?!  Damn it Rowling.  This is your fault for trying to make the later books more realistic.


Alright, done ranting for the moment.  On to other thoughts.

Free tuition means Hogwarts is a public school, meaning that pretty much everyone in attendance is not particularly rich or prestigious.
 
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