Harry Potter Harry Potter's Sport And Social club

[Shadowbakasama]

Dumbledore's Army or the Defense Association was just to teach Defense Against Dark Arts, but what if there was another club for those who believe that Voldemort has returned.

The 'Sport And Social' club would cover rapid deployment via Appartition, Portkey, and Broom, stealth by normal methods and Disillusionment and Silencio, combat engineering by Transfiguration including ditch and pit vanishing and crenelated wall shaping.

Of course only those with muggle roots would know that 'Sport And Social' refers to the 'Special Air Service' or SAS.

Much of the physical conditioning could be explained away as muggle sports, ie football and rugby.

I'd like to see what a real student army would be like.

"Alright, transform a bar on that door and then start with caltrops, tripwires, and moleholes in the floor for 50 feet. At 50 feet I want a portable swamp and then a crenelated wall that we can use for cover for our firing line. Can anyone conjure dry ice? I'd like a low fog on the floor covering all the pratfalls. Place the runic explosives and super flamable potions on the back of the crenelated wall to take it out when we fall back to the next position."

 

[Lord Raine]

I don't think canon Harry would be willing or able to do something like this, but it would be the logical (and badass) thing for a decent Slytherin!Harry to pull. The creation of a social club that actually focuses on creating an army of friends and followers? How very Slytherin of you, Harry. This could be the kind of fic where Harry fights fire with fire, and starts using the very techniques and strategies Voldemort used during his time in school against him.

Whether Harry is actually in Slytherin or just a mis-sort for whatever authorial reason is fairly irrelevant. I think it might actually work better if he was actually a Gryffindor. Harry learns personal details about Voldemort from Dumbledore, Harry decides to use a Slytherin solution to a Gryffindor problem by taking pages out of Voldemort's gamebook. I don't think you could make a fic about this concept specifically, but I do think this would make a great centerpiece for a fic whose focus was on a clever or political Harry.

 

[rukia8492]

this has my seal of approval.

LR you do know what the nickname of "Sport And Social" is from right??? if you dont know, then put together the caps in that phrase and you get the idea of actually what the idea is about.

EDIT: well didn't see the entire first post, thats what happens when i read without my glasses.

 

[zeebee1]

When I think of Slytherin traits I think of stupidity, so no, I don't think this is what a Slytherin Harry would do.

 

[Vanigo]

When I think of Slytherin traits I think of stupidity, so no, I don't think this is what a Slytherin Harry would do.

...you know, that's also an interesting idea. Slytherin!Harry who, instead of being ambitious and cunning, acts like canon Slytherins do? Probably can't make a full-size fic out of it, but it's an entertaining concept.

 

[Prince Charon]

When I think of Slytherin traits I think of stupidity, so no, I don't think this is what a Slytherin Harry would do.

LR has a long lecture on the subject that can be summarized more-or-less as 'its not the traits you have, but the traits you value, that determine where you're sorted'. Its one of those rare bits that he's probably right about.

Harry as a Slytherin might well as like Slytherins are supposed to, rather than how they do in the books, thus the SAS idea being plausible.

 

[Lord Raine]

When I think of Slytherin traits I think of stupidity, so no, I don't think this is what a Slytherin? Harry would do.

LR has a long lecture on the subject that can be summarized more-or-less as 'its not the traits you have, but the traits you value, that determine where you're sorted'. Its one of those rare bits that he's probably right about.

Harry as a Slytherin might well as like Slytherins are supposed to, rather than how they do in the books, thus the SAS idea being plausible.

Quoted post is Quoted.

This is an idea that I've been kicking around for some time, and I thought I'd share.

I think that the way the Sorting Hat sorts you has nothing to do with what your best traits actually are. That's just what it tells you it's doing. I think what it's really doing is sorting you based on the traits you most admire.

Think about it. Doesn't that seem to fit much better, given who got sent to which house? Malfoy is neither ambitious nor clever, but he clearly, clearly admires the idea of cleverness. He couldn't be more blunt about his desire to be a powerful, clever, and politically-omnipotent aristrocrat if he was beating people in the face with a club that had that carved on it.

So Malfoy clearly is not those things, but he also clearly admires those things, and wants to make himself those things. Ergo, he got sorted Slytherin.

Here's another example. Hermione was canonically smarter than pretty much every other student in the school, period. The Hat should have screamed Ravenclaw as soon as she put it on. But instead, it sorted her Gryffindor.

Why?

Maybe it's because while Hermione is indeed almost supernaturally intelligent, she herself happens to admire bravery and courage more. In fact, this is actually canon. Hermione flat-out tells Harry that he is a far better wizard than she is, because he is brave and honest and courageous, and that all of these grade-based comparisons between them mean nothing, because he has better moral fiber, and she is envious of that (in a not-dickish way).

Hermione clearly admires courage and bravery far above her own intellectual talents. This is canon. And I'm starting to think that it could be because of that that she was sorted Gryffindor, and not because of any innate courage of her own.

This makes sense if you recall that ultimately, the Houses are dorms, and that Housemates will be spending seven years living with each other. Instead of grouping people together based on their talents, which would radically stack the school in ways that completely unbalance the educational system (for one, Ravenclaw would get everyone who was smart, thereby permanently cockblocking the other three houses academically), wouldn't it make more sense to group people together based on what they collectively admire? That way, they form a more cohesive group. Not all Gryffindors are couragous, but they do all admire courage, and are thus much more likely to get along than if Gryffindor was 'merely' composed of all the people with more balls than brains. Ravenclaw doesn't get all the smart people, but it does get all the people who want to be smart more than anything else, and who admire intelligence above all other traits.

This could also handily explain why people who desperately want to get into a given House or have a long family history with a House are much, much more likely to be sorted into that House. Malfoy didn't 'just' admire cleverness and ambition. He grew up knowing that he was a Malfoy, and that Malfoys go to Slytherin because Slytherin is the best, and thus he admires the traits of Slytherin House, in the process almost completely ensuring that he would be sorted Slytherin. If you grow up admiring your long line of Hufflepuff ancestors for their virtues, you are exponentially more likely to be a Hufflepuff yourself, because you are admiring virtues that exemplify Hufflepuff.

Do note that Malfoy, so clearly in love with the idea of Slytherin cleverness (though not clever himself by any margin), was sorted instantly into Slytherin, as though there was literally no question at all, and no reason to deliberate. Remember how some students were sorted "as soon as the Hat touched their heads?" Anybody want to bet that those students were all purebloods who come from long lines of people being in the same House, and were raised lionizing those House ideals?

Thoughts?

 

[Prince Charon]

Thank you. I was going to provide a link, but got distracted.