Harry Potter Hermione's House-elf Training!

Femtedd

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#26
Ya know, I wasnÆt going to do this do to the fact that I had thought this thread long dead, but I have a slightly more refined version of this Challenge that I posted on other message boards. Here it is.

The Setup, (any point of which you are free to change or tweak as you see fit):

Harry inherits an old house/manor. He asks Hermione to go and check it out for him as a favor. The reason that he asked her to check it out was because he already had some pressing matters to attend to, (something that would occupy his time for a few weeks). She gets there only to find that the door wonÆt open for her. (Maybe do too some kind of Ward or perhaps Harry merely forgot to give her the key). She notices a little doggy-door/cat-flap, and decides to shrink herself in order to use it. This is when things go sour for our heroin.

Upon entering the house through the flap, she is greeted by the manors residing head House-elf. The matron elf takes one look at her and comes to the conclusion that Hermione must be the newest elf sent here to work by their master. Perhaps the elf is old and has bad eyesight, or maybe this is merely do too skewered House-elf logic. ôShe is my size and is not the master, so she must be a new elfö. Despite HermioneÆs protests, the old elf has already decided that she, is in fact, a House-elf, (and a very young and poorly trained one at that!) and with a snap of its fingers, HermioneÆs clothes (and her wand!) are banished and replaced with the standard House-elf uniform, a simple yet rather skimpy (on her) pillowcase with arm and head cutouts that barely falls past her hips. (heh heh)

Thus begins HermioneÆs training as a proper House-elf servant/slave by the matron elf and/or any other house-elves that might work in the manor, serving under the head elf. All the while, trying to find her wand and/or escape from her new domestic prison and its jailers. Will she ever find her lost wand? Will she be able to send for help? Will she escape? Or will she eventually give up and submit to the training, become the perfect little servant for her master (?Harry?)?

The basic outline is that Hermione would have to spend a quite a bit of time trapped in her predicament with no way out but too either play along with the demented ElfÆs wishes and continue to search for a way out in secret. Or continuing to openly defy the Old Elf, and thus be given a taste of real House Elf firmness and dedication though the Old ElfÆs attempts to teach her just what it means to be a proper House Elf. Through her reddened arse, of cores.

Bothe could afford Hermione a new outlook and understanding for the people that she has been dedicating her time and knowledge to help. Perhaps she would learn to appreciate all the hard work and dedication the all Elves feel towards their work and the people they willingly serve.

Now then letÆs brainstorm, just what exactly would HermioneÆs training consist of? Would she be taught how to perfectly perform specific tasks or would she just be taught general obedience and submission to her "master" (Harry)?

Would the head Elf discipline her when she's bad?

(Oh SNAP! Here comes the Matron Elf with the E.W.S.D.! The Evil Wooden Spoon of Doom!)

Would the Elves go as far as to teach (Brainwash) her into only wearing pillowcases/tea-towels and to only speak of herself in the third person?

ôHermy has become so used to talking of herself like this, she canÆt stop!ö


Optional Idea 1:

Bringing up an interesting point: how DO House-elves usually carry out their duties? Is there any real amount of physical labor involved or do they rely primarily on magic to do their jobs? Do they simply snap their fingers and turn a dirty room into a clean one? Instantly conger four-course meals?

From what little weÆve seen of House-elves at work (such as the Hogwarts kitchens) it seems to be an even mix of both. They prepare the food by hand but use magic to instantly transport it to the great hall for the students and faculty to eat.

No doubt the matron Elf will be upset by HermioneÆs (and any other young witches you decide to add to the fray) inability to instantly ôpopö to any area of the manor, as well as getting her work done as quickly and efficiently as ôelflyö possible. Forcing her to discipline the newest elf.

A possible outcome of this is that a near-panicked Hermione would subconsciously force her own magic to work the way the matron Elf expects out of sheer desperation; like a House-elves.

This in turn could have all sorts of unpleasant ôside-effectsö on the poor witch-turned-pseudo-house-elf.

Optional Idea 2: (This is more for if you want to go in the direction of crack but it can be serious as well.)

After a while when Hermione doesn't report back, Harry could become worried, and send someone else too check up on her, who then ends up in the same situation as Hermione.

Other Witches-turned-House-Elves could include; Ginny (Gin-Giny), Luna (Loony), Tonks (Nymphy), McGonagall (Minny), Molly (Muly) and just for lolz, Aunt Petunia (Tuny).

Optional Idea 3: (Even MORE cracky!)

One of the manors male elves could become smitten with ôHermyö, and ask the matron House-elf if she and he could become ômatedö. Or instead of asking the Head elf, he could go and proposition himself to Hermione directly.

Male house-elf too Hermione: Hermy is so beautiful. We would be great for each other!

Hermione: "W-what do you mean? Eeep!"

Cue "The Lion Sleeps Tonight theme as the male leads a struggling Hermione too his sleeping area.

IÆd like to see her think her way out of that one!

Heck, by combining Ideas 2 and 3 you could make this a story about one or more male House-Elves gathering a Harem of female House-Elves who are really human women that are forced into their situation due to unusual circumstance. That would by both original and funny in a ridiculous kind of way...
 

Femtedd

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#27
Oh yah, and as for DLP...

I don't go there anymore... <_<
 

Garahs

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#28
I am working on this on and off (putting down more stuff every few days or such as I try to work the flow out), but I'll readily admit I write and post about as fast as Hawk does, so I wouldn't hold my breath or anything. Once I finish the timeframe I have set for the first chapter, I'll post it for people to tear into.

That aside, can someone give me the highlights of what DLP mentioned concerning this? I'm hoping they actually mentioned something useful besides 'it sux' and other varients. I've thought of ways around the plotholes mentioned here, but there might be others I'm not thinking of.

I appreciate the possible shortened names mentioned. "Miney" is probably what I'll go with, but I want to know if there is a canon name Hermione was called by the house-elfs. Either before or after the S.P.E.W. incident would work if there is one. I'd like to stick to canon information as much as possible and only fill in blanks.

Oh, and if anyone's curious on how Hermione's "training" will occur, I'll just say that repetition can be a powerful thing.
 

Prince Charon

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#29
Option three sounds very rape-ish. I'd prefer something else, please.
 

Garahs

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#30
Prince Charon said:
Option three sounds very rape-ish. I'd prefer something else, please.
Indeed. I won't be touching that at all personally.
 

Seratin

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#31
Well Luna's a cunt so that's out.

And no Hermione/elf secks. That's just weird. Harry/ House elf Hermione is interesting but meh it'l never happen.
 

Femtedd

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#32
Garahs said:
I am working on this on and off (putting down more stuff every few days or such as I try to work the flow out), but I'll readily admit I write and post about as fast as Hawk does, so I wouldn't hold my breath or anything.? Once I finish the timeframe I have set for the first chapter, I'll post it for people to tear into.

That aside, can someone give me the highlights of what DLP mentioned concerning this?? I'm hoping they actually mentioned something useful besides 'it sux' and other varients.? I've thought of ways around the plotholes mentioned here, but there might be others I'm not thinking of.

I appreciate the possible shortened names mentioned.? "Miney" is probably what I'll go with, but I want to know if there is a canon name Hermione was called by the house-elfs.? Either before or after the S.P.E.W. incident would work if there is one.? I'd like to stick to canon information as much as possible and only fill in blanks.

Oh, and if anyone's curious on how Hermione's "training" will occur, I'll just say that repetition can be a powerful thing.
One of them told me to die and another said I should make it a Hermione/House-elf fic... and then they band me.

I got a better responce from portkey.org and here though.

Seratin said:
Well Luna's a cunt so that's out.

And no Hermione/elf secks. That's just weird. Harry/ House elf Hermione is interesting but meh it'l never happen.
While I would agree with you I was trying to go for a very broad audience type. I originally posted this at portkey.org as a HHR fic, but it kind of died there...

Also, no, she is not.
 

Femtedd

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#33
Also, I never actually intended for there to be any real Human/House-Elf sex in the story. Just more like the threat of it, I guess. I imagine having a love struck elf chasing her around would add another layer of worry to Hermy's already large stack of problems. The Harem bit was just for pure crackiness.

I guess I should have elaborated. :sweat2:
 

Lord of Bones

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#34
Femtedd said:
I got a better responce from portkey.org and here though.


While I would agree with you I was trying to go for a very broad audience type. I originally posted this at portkey.org as a HHR fic, but it kind of died there...

Also, no, she is not.
Portkey.org's challenges section is epic fail. So are certain authors (I'm looking at you, Harry85!)

As for Luna...meh. She's like the Hinata of the HP fandom - inevitably, she gets brought up in a discussion and then the whole thing gets derailed because "OMG LUNA RULEZ!" It's part of why I've stopped reading most of Rors. Blot's works (i.e. Poo!Luna) nowadays. I avoid Harry/Luna like the plague now.

That, and Luna fanboys tend to piss me off. I have a fic where Luna machinates the rape and murder of Hermione (in front of her and Harry's son, no less), just for something different.
 

Femtedd

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#35
..................

Hay, hereÆs an idea; IÆm going to write a general timeline to illustrate how this challenge evolved over time.

Me, to Fanfiction Forum: I have story idea!
Fanfiction Forum: ItÆs OK, but not good enough. Add more to idea.
Me: I added more!
Fanfiction Forum: Idea is full of holes, fix them.
Me: I try to fix them! IÆm not very good thoughà
Fanfiction Forum: You should share Idea with other people to make Idea better.
Me: I will!
Me, to Portkey.org: I have story idea!
Portkey.org: Cool! WeÆll get right on it! (Hangs up, never calls back)
Me, to Fanfiction.net: I have story idea!
Fanfiction.net: ààà
Me, to DLP Forums: I have story idea!
DLP Forums: Die. (Bans me)
(Years passà)
Fanfiction Forum: Necro! I like your idea! Can I take it up?
Me: Yay! I have made it better now with suggestions from other peoples! See!
Fanfiction Forum: New ideas are bad. We donÆt like it now.
Me: Awww, at least Portkey.org liked it.
Fanfiction Forum: Yah well, Portkey.org sucks.
Me: àà
Fanfiction Forum: Oh, and we hate Luna too.
Me: (nyoro~n)
 

Lord of Bones

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#36
Femtedd said:
Me: Yay! I have made it better now with suggestions from other peoples! See!
Fanfiction Forum: New ideas are bad. We donÆt like it now.
Me: Awww, at least Portkey.org liked it.
Fanfiction Forum: Yah well, Portkey.org sucks.
Me: àà
Fanfiction Forum: Oh, and we hate Luna too.
Me: (nyoro~n)
No, I said that I dislike Portkey.org and Luna. Don't generalize.

As for your ideas?

Option 1 is fine and has potential.
Option 2 veers into Luna territory, and inevitably she'll end up taking over the story. Why the hell would Harry send Luna, anyway?
Option 3 is less crack and more 'Let's screw with Hermione and squick out the readers!'

EDIT: I took a look at the first page of your DLP challenge and, while most posts were flames, a few really stuck out; including scaryisntit's and Chime's. Essentially, this is a slow degredation of Hermione's nature, which would make for a psychological or horror fic.
 

Femtedd

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#37
Well I did say they were optional ideas for a reason.

Also, Luna doesnÆt have to be the one he sends. I did give a list of potentials after all.
 

Lord of Bones

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#38
Femtedd said:
Well I did say they were optional ideas for a reason.

Also, Luna doesnÆt have to be the one he sends. I did give a list of potentials after all.
Thing is, you'll have to find a way to make it cracky within reason. Essentially, (and this is my interpretation of it), you have a proud, intelligent, independent woman like Hermione degenerate into a slave race, which is slowly robbing her of the mind and the independence that defines her. You're virtually erasing her entire mindset.

Where you see H/Hr crack, I see serious psychological issues.
 

Jakkun

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#39
I don't really see the problems with Luna. She never seemed to be more than a crazy background character that made random shit happen to me. I haven't really delved into H/L much, since they tend to have the side pairing that I despise of R/Hr. I can't see Luna being even remotely similar to Hinata. Well, they both seem to like dumbasses, but Ron is a true dumbass and should be culled. Naruto isn't as bad.

The idea could be written either way, but I think most would prefer crack. Plus crack is a lot easier to write. Making it serious and psychological takes a lot more effort to make it both good and make sense.
 
#40
Is no one able to OBJECTIVELY take a character at face value anymore...? :no:

Seriously, if it's not one character, it's another... Or it's a whole mess of characters, or all of the Wizarding World, or sometimes just wizarding Britain, or even just the British Ministry. :sweat2:

I understand the fact that it's fanfiction and we can do with the characters as we please, but seriously, every other post now-a-days seems to have an undertone of hatred bias towards any given character, and this seems to be a common theme in most all the fandoms now-a-days. <_<

Seriously, I'm almost to the point where I'm going to issue challenges for people to take a character they absolutely fuckin' hate to the Nth degree and write a fic where they aren't bashed to the supreme, but rather something good and constructive is done with them. :headbanger:

Then maybe we'll see a reduction in the crap-ola out there with the characters people love to hate, as you'd actually have to think about a character's good points and ways of redeeming that character in your own eyes as well as many others who hate that character for the same reasons you do. <_<
 

Warden

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#41
Femtedd said:
Also, I never actually intended for there to be any real Human/House-Elf sex in the story. Just more like the threat of it, I guess. I imagine having a love struck elf chasing her around would add another layer of worry to Hermy's already large stack of problems.
You cannot imagine how happy I am to read that. I misunderstood your initial post and Idea 3 made me go :sick: .
 

Femtedd

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#42
Warden said:
Femtedd said:
Also, I never actually intended for there to be any real Human/House-Elf sex in the story. Just more like the threat of it, I guess. I imagine having a love struck elf chasing her around would add another layer of worry to Hermy's already large stack of problems.
You cannot imagine how happy I am to read that. I misunderstood your initial post and Idea 3 made me go :sick: .
Ya, I tend to forget that other people arenÆt able to look directly into my brain. :sweat2:

I really need to learn to explain myself better, I know.
 

Garahs

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#43
mandalorianjedi said:
Is no one able to OBJECTIVELY take a character at face value anymore...? :no:

Seriously, if it's not one character, it's another... Or it's a whole mess of characters, or all of the Wizarding World, or sometimes just wizarding Britain, or even just the British Ministry. :sweat2:

...

...

Seriously, I'm almost to the point where I'm going to issue challenges for people to take a character they absolutely fuckin' hate to the Nth degree and write a fic where they aren't bashed to the supreme, but rather something good and constructive is done with them. :headbanger:

Then maybe we'll see a reduction in the crap-ola out there with the characters people love to hate, as you'd actually have to think about a character's good points and ways of redeeming that character in your own eyes as well as many others who hate that character for the same reasons you do. <_<
Unfortunately, it seems a majority of people prefer to automatically stereotype characters. Ron is obviously a two-dimensional twit that's all talk and jealousy, Hermione is a two-dimensional know-it-all teacher's pet, and Ginny is a two-dimensional fangirl. And then they ignore any evidence that suggests there might be more to that person or they might have reasons for whatever they did.

Just as an example, Ginny probably has one of the worst issues in the school. Her first year, she was forcibly possessed by Tom Riddle, was forced to kill with her own hands while practically a passenger in her own body, commanded a giant snake to kill students, and almost was used as a means to bring back the Dark Lord? And after it's over, she finds out that the very boy she had been told stories about as a child is the person who rescued her. Personally, I'm not surprised that whatever crush she had to start with turned into full-fledged hero worship.

Sorry for the rant, but character bashing really ticks me off. (And don't get me started on the Sasuke Uchiha bashing.) It seems to me that virtually every character in the books has some kind of flaw or quirk, but then, that's what makes them interesting.

As for Luna, I'll be avoiding her as although her canon worldview is interesting, it also makes it very difficult to do her character justice.

Femtedd: I wouldn't say new ideas are bad, but the additions to this one aren't something that appeals to me. There are some subjects you have to be very careful on, not only here, but anywhere else. I'll probably never write anything crackish as the only ones that I've actually liked are the "crossovers that should never be". I can't remember who the author of those is though.

Degradation of Hermione... I'd be lying if I said my story won't have any of that, but she'll get something out of it as well. Hopefully, I won't completely suck at writing it.
 
#44
As crazy as it sounds.. I think it would make for a rather amusing Crack fic.
Either that or a setup for a really odd lemon... I forget what fic it was but i recall harry
mentioning that he overheard somepeople wanting to play
'Naughty House-Elf and Master'..
So Either way it makes me chuckle and I feel is worth a read..
 

Femtedd

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#45
Would this be the story you are talking about?

Bestest Birthday Ever

In this story (that was sadly abandoned) Narcissa Malfoy comes to think of herself as a House-elf by the name of "Cissy", due to being hit by a spell ment to bond Dobby too Harry. Good fun.

Also...

Quoted from the end of chapter 16:

It appeared as though his friends and fellow Marauders had let someone into the Lair. Because when Snatch got down there he found his little Tonky wearing the outfit he made her. It was a soft pink used pillowcase that did not cover very much but had green letters on it saying æProperty of Potter.Æ She had a bright smile splitting her face open.

ôNymphie wants to play with NymphieÆs Master.ö
 
#46
Well, it’s been just under two. fucking. decades. since I originally started this thread, and on a whim I decided to come and post here again to see if anything ever came of this idea. And possibly even see if I couldn’t drum up some renewed interest in it.
 

seitora

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#47
You have to realise tastes have probably diversified in a decade and a half. There needs to be some sharp kink or fetish to getting the ball rolling, and more nuance to spice it up than something that feels like it'll veer into being just plain straight-up rapey territory. Off the top of my head, potentially Hermione takes it as a chance to see the 'culture' of House-Elves that purebloods never bother to write down or are even necessarily aware of. As such, she has a chance to research a culture from the inside, only to get too deep.
 
#48
You have to realise tastes have probably diversified in a decade and a half. There needs to be some sharp kink or fetish to getting the ball rolling, and more nuance to spice it up than something that feels like it'll veer into being just plain straight-up rapey territory. Off the top of my head, potentially Hermione takes it as a chance to see the 'culture' of House-Elves that purebloods never bother to write down or are even necessarily aware of. As such, she has a chance to research a culture from the inside, only to get too deep.
I can't say you're wrong about that. Truth is, I was still in my preteen years when I originally wrote this, it was during a time in my life where I was horny all the time and, frankly, just a little bit stupid. While this is meant to be a fetish story, I'll admit that if I were to write this nowadays, I would definitely tone down a lot of the more “rapey” undertones. You have to understand, I was still figuring myself out back then. Honestly, rereading this now, I'm not entirely sure what I was hoping for.

As for the second part of your post, I admit that your proposal does have some merit. It’s been a while since I’ve read the books, but I do remember Hermione, or at least my impression of her, as someone who would get really invested in something, only to let it gradually overwhelm her, realizing too late that she’s in too deep and there’s no easy way out.

That certainly would make for a good angle to focus on. though I’m not too ashamed to admit that I would still hope for at least some amount of BDSM content. Nothing too extreme mind you but ultimately, that was the original aim of the story. I may have mellowed out a bit in my older years, but I do still have my kinks.

Hell, I’m just happy to see someone was willing to take the time to respond and not just telling me to, you know, fuck off. Thanks for that by the way.
 
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