Ranma ½ If Akane were slapped.

#1
What do you think Ranma's most canon-like reaction would be if Akane got slapped by a girl he respects and/or is friends with (not necessarily romantic with)? And I don't mean a comedic hit in the face; I mean a serious anger filled slap fueled by someone who's basically fed up with her. Like a "last straw" scenario.

If a specific reason is necessary than
it's most-likely because said friend had had it with Akane's usual unfairness toward Ranma.

If I need to be more specific please let me know.

Also, please forgive my atrocious grammar and spelling errors. I know it's painful to look at but please bare with me.
 

goldenarms

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#2
LadyRelena said:
What do you think Ranma's most canon-like reaction would be if Akane got slapped by a girl he respects and/or is friends with (not necessarily romantic with)? And I don't mean a comedic hit in the face; I mean a serious anger filled slap filed by someone who's basically fed up with her; like a "last straw" scenario.

If a specific reason is necessary then
it's most-likely because said friend had had it with Akane's usual unfairness toward Ranma.

If I need to be more specific please let me know.

Also, please forgive my atrocious grammar and spelling errors. I know it's painful to look at but please bare with me.
That largely depends on who the slapper is. If it were, say, Kasumi, he wouldn't do shit, aside from look flabbergasted as everyone else, and probably head for the hills. Because no one dares approach a conceivably angry Kasumi.

Given the proposed situation, I'm not entirely certain Ranma would do anything, other than look surprised. If it was someone he didn't like, or suspected ill-intentions for Akane, he might do something to pre-emp the attack. But something he didn't see coming, it's going to be a situation-dependent response governed by the level of relationship said slapper has with Akane. Of course, if there's a falling out as a result of the slap, then I can see Ranma being a dick with said person if he disagrees with the reason behind the slap.
 
#3
goldenarms said:
it's going to be a situation-dependent response governed by the level of relationship said slapper has with Akane.
For the sake of argument then, how about if Ukyo or Shampoo did the slapping?
 

Dumbledork

Well-Known Member
#4
He'd probably ask for an explanation. I doubt he'd attack them.

Either way I'm pretty sure Akane would resent him for interfering as she'd want to take care of the problem herself.
 
#5
I guess I need to set more parameters for this question. How about this?
-Ukyo does the slapping
-Ranma is not in a position to stop it from happening
-Most of, if not all, of the usual Ranma cast are there to witness it

-Reaction from Ranma
-Things that he might say
-level of anger

And just for the hell of it, let's do one where Shampoo is the slapper.
 
#6
Shampoo, and likely Ukyou, are strong enough that if they wanted to really hurt Akane very badly and they weren't concerned about the consequences, they could do it.

Slapping isn't intended to hurt, though. It's a rebuke, a warning, something to make the slapped person react and not do whatever caused it again.

Ranma could possibly be very angry, or he could just be visibly indignant. He would probably press whoever did it for an explanation, but I don't think he'd attack for this type of provocation.

I definitely agree that Akane would resent Ranma's "interference", even if he hardly does anything.
 

PCHeintz72

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#7
If Ukyo or Shampoo hit Ranma would be in a catch 22 situation... I feel he would get some blame no matter which he did.

If he did nothing, he would get flack for not protecting her by the fathers.

If he interfered, he would get flack from Akane.
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
#8
There needs to be more stuff where Ranma just throws up his hands, says 'fuck this shit' and just walks away from the bullshit.
 
#9
But there are already too may fics where Ranma does 'just that' and leave everyone and everything behind to start a new life somewhere else.
 

PCHeintz72

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#10
LadyRelena said:
But there are already too may fics where Ranma does 'just that' and leave everyone and everything behind to start a new life somewhere else.
I read ones like that a lot, I see little issue with it.
 
#11
I believe the standard bystander reaction to a "serious" slap is stunned silence. Slaps not played for laughs tend to be deeply personal, and I feel it would be awkward, both from the characters' perspective and in terms of story telling, for any on-lookers to actively interject themselves. I don't think even Ranma's foot-in-mouth disease is potent enough to break that particular convention.
 

varth

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#12
Yeah, especially since slap is extreme form of social interaction, and Ranma is hardly an expert with those. Unless it was glaringly obvious someone was in the wrong, he'd be utterly dumbfounded and frozen.
 

PCHeintz72

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#13
varth said:
Yeah, especially since slap is extreme form of social interaction, and Ranma is hardly an expert with those. Unless it was glaringly obvious someone was in the wrong, he'd be utterly dumbfounded and frozen.
Blinks...

Extreme in real life... mild in extreme for Ranma universe.
 
#14
PCHeintz72 said:
varth said:
Yeah, especially since slap is extreme form of social interaction, and Ranma is hardly an expert with those. Unless it was glaringly obvious someone was in the wrong, he'd be utterly dumbfounded and frozen.
Blinks...

Extreme in real life... mild in extreme for Ranma universe.
It depends what it's for. It's true that it usually means nothing since Akane slaps Ranma quite a bit but if Akane is crying when she slaps Ranma then it's suddenly a big deal.

In the situation I presented, it's definitely serious.

Also, how would Ranma react once he was out of his stupor?
 

varth

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#15
PCHeintz72 said:
varth said:
Yeah, especially since slap is extreme form of social interaction, and Ranma is hardly an expert with those. Unless it was glaringly obvious someone was in the wrong, he'd be utterly dumbfounded and frozen.
Blinks...

Extreme in real life... mild in extreme for Ranma universe.
It's still extreme social interaction even in Ranma 1/2. It is, after all, still Japan. It's just that Akane operates by different set of rules, however, it's specified she's not the one being slapped, it's not a man either. IMO that makes this situation close(ish) to real life.
 

The Ero-Sennin

The Eyes of Heaven
Staff member
#16
It should be noted that Akane doesn't have a close enough relationship with any of Ranma's other suitors, even Ukyo, for a slap to the face to have any shock or meaning to it. Given that generally at the first opportunity Ukyo isn't above trying to do extensive harm to Akane as much as Shampoo is when Ranma is on the line.

If one of them were to slap Akane, she would just throw down and start fighting. Ranma would definitely side with Akane (in his own usual way) and Akane would get on his case for interfering with her fights (as she does).
 
#17
Well it depends upon what tone, execution, and setup are involved.

I assume the intent is the "they're horrible people" gag elements, violence for sight gag elements, the flanderization issues, "Akane is always right" contrivances, and being servants of the plot problems of the source materials sit-com elements are removed to shift to a more pseudo-realistic tone. The result then will depend upon how you interpret the character of Ranma Saotome.

Based on what we get in the first season/12 episodes of the anime and early manga, I don't see anything that leads me to believe Ranma should be handled as prone to white knighting for the sake of white knighting. Thus the context would be more important than the action itself.

If Shampoo and Ukyo should be vastly more skilled and physically superior to Akane to the point if Akane is pushing their buttons enough to nail her, bystanders should in principle be stepping to hold them back and advise Akane on why pissing people off well above her punching weight is an act of abject stupidity.

If the sit-com elements are active in latter material style Ranma get Shanghaied into defending her by the Tendo Daughters, Soun, and Gendo before he even has a chance to try to form his own opinion. As a result he has no real agency whatsoever in what follows, just like he really didn't with events like when the Moxibustion Chart got shredded or most other incidents along those lines. Why? Because people like laughing at his misfortune.

EDIT:
Okay this is older than I had thought.

Going with the spoilered scenario... Okay let's step back from decades of Akane fans framing the dichotomy as Akane attacking Ranma being entirely justified because if he pisses her off, "then well he deserves to get hit."

It's poor adaptation writing to just lampshade the violence sight gag elements, especially if focusing on just one character. Said sight gag tonally doesn't fit, and thus needs to be removed. If you want to do that it would be better to characterize their relationship as dysfunctional as part of your translation efforts, and then move with that. Kind of like how Zen did with his more infamous fic along those lines.
 
#18
There's actually a couple of likely places in Cannon for Akane to get slapped.

While Akane isn't shown to see Ranma's clothes lying on the floor in chapter 2, it's rather hard to imagine why she wouldn't see them, so Kasumi slapping her when they find out what's going on wouldn't be too big a surprise, even Kasumi's usual saintly behavior.

The other one is the fight with Royga where Akane 's hair gets cut sort, her behavior is but hypocritical and stupid, and laying the blame on Ranma and Royga for what happened is just plain strange
 

Ezit Meti

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#19
Oh, come on. Really? You don't think it's out of character for Kasumi to slap Akane? Especially when Genma deserves it even more for being so, so stupid as to take his son off to Jusenkyo and then not explain the circumstances in the postcard he sent, leading to the confusion in the first place.


See, the post just before that last one pointed out why some people don't take "Akane defenders" seriously. This is why I can't take "Akane attackers" seriously. Because so, so often their arguments get wrapped up in attacking her that they don't also attack anyone else that might deserve it. I mean, you're expecting me to call out Ranma in this situation to defend her, right? Nah. He was a bit shy and awkward, didn't really know the best way to explain something so completely bizarre to people that had probably no experience in magic before... Leading to the worst possible way for them to find out. I suppose that is technically his fault, but I don't put any blame on his feet for acting this way. It's a perfect reasonable thing to do. Much like I feel it was reasonable for Akane to have the reaction *she* had.

In order for Kasumi to slap Akane, she would have to do something extraordinary. And again this is not a defense of Akane. Remember that one chapter where everyone thought she was pissed? And then everyone* threw him under the bus, and she barely did anything to punish him while still thinking "oh dear I hope that wasn't too much". Or how about the time at the end of the second chapter where Akane dumps a table on Ranma? No real reaction from her. In order to get Kasumi to slap pretty much anyone you're gonna have to work for it.

As for the fight between Ranma and Ryoga, leading to her hair getting cut off? Hypocritical in what manner? I don't see it. Stupid, certainly for putting herself into the middle of that fight in the first place. It wasn't really her fault her hair got cut off either. Ryoga was carelessly chucking his bandannas around, Ranma blocked it, they're really lucky nobody got actually hurt. If anything having her hair cut off should have been a wakeup call that they needed to stop. Especially Ryoga. Again, not blaming Ranma for this, Ryoga was the one tossing around dangerous projectiles (including his umbrella, which he spun like a top).

Actually, Ryoga really was an asshole in that fight now that I think about it. He didn't seem to give a single solitary damn about collateral damage until, whoops, sliced that girl's hair off. Ranma was being pretty heroic trying to fight him while keeping Akane out of harm's way. On Akane's part I guess slapping him was maybe a little too much, when all he did was block the bandanna and argue the toss with her. But hey! She has good reason to be upset under these conditions. She was growing her hair out to try and get Tofu's attention, having it suddenly cut off like that must have been kind of upsetting.

And you want to have her get a slap when she's already emotionally vulnerable? Christ's sake, forget the fictional characters for a second and where's your empathy?

The more I think about it, seems to me that the thread title should be "what if every character in Ranma 1/2 got slapped?" 'Cause they all have it coming to some degree. Except Kasumi, whose worst crime is being an enabler.

*I should note this includes Akane, by the way. One of the moments I really hated from her. It was played up for comedy, as in "oh, Akane's coming to save Ranma from everyone else" and then she joins in pinning the blame on Ranma. He was pretty much the only one that didn't come out looking like a shitlord in that particular circumstance.
 

ijp92

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#20
I actually can't see Ranma getting too worked up over a slap.
I can see Akane getting upset with Ranma for not caring.
 
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