Harry Potter Independent Slytherin

Lord Raine

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#1
An interesting idea I had while turning over various plot-points that will happen in my own fics.

Why is Slytherin so universally against Harry? This seems like an odd question, but think about it. Yes, Harry was sorted into Gryffindor. Yes, Gryffindor and Slytherin do not get along at all. But Harry is a parselmouth. Literally the only way to have that is to be an Heir of Slytherin (or to be a Horcrux, but they don't know that).

Shouldn't this raise some really pointed questions amongst the ranks of the Slytherins? Even in canon, they are painted as mostly being out for their individual selves; a house of politics where everybody is jockying for position. Even if Malfoy possessed a large clique, he would surely not be the only clique. There must be others. Why did not one Slytherin question this? Why did not one of them find this strange, or compelling, or worth a second look?

And, perhaps most importantly of all, what sort of consequences might there be if a Slytherin simply asked Harry why he was in Gryffindor, and Harry, in a moment of total honesty, admitted that it was because he refused to be sorted into the same house as Malfoy, who made an enemy of Harry on the train? How might Slytherin House react to the revelation that Malfoy singlehandedly cost them not just Harry Potter, but Harry Potter the Parselmouth?
 

zeebee1

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#2
They'd react in the same way that bullies would react. With Draco in the nurses office.
 

Prince Charon

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#3
zeebee1 said:
They'd react in the same way that bullies would react. With Draco in the nurses office.
Very probably, yeah. More than once, too.

Some of them might try to get on Harry's good side, which is something I don't think I've seen Slytherin students do in canon.
 

Flamewolf

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#4
they don't in canon because being near malfoy reduced their collective intelligence by the thousands
 

Duraiken

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#5
I always had the impression, though it may have fanon, that no one made a move against Draco in Slytherin because they didn't want to have Malfoy Senior as an enemy, particularly when he was able to bribe enough people in high enough places, like Fudge, to do what he wanted. But if you take that away, Malfoy more than likely wouldn't have been as dangerous the first few years as he was in canon. It honeslt seems like he doesn't truly become dangerous unless he's pressed into a corner and can't rely on his father.
 
#6
Well, one possible way to eliminate Malfoy Sr.'s influence would be to have him busted for dropping the Diary into Ginny's cauldron or for Dark Artifacts being found in his home, or both. If Rowling had thought up Pensieves before Year 4, this wouldn't have been an issue-Just have Harry, Ginny and any other witnesses put their memories into a Pensieve and there you go. Malfoy Sr. is busted. The public scandal would surely cost him considerable influence if he didn't end up in Azkaban outright.

Now, look at Draco. Look to Harry. Look back at Draco, look back to Harry. Sadly, Draco Malfoy is NOT Harry Potter. Draco only had Daddy's money and influence going for him, now that's gone.

Now, back to Harry Potter. Look at him. By this point he's got the Boy-Who-Lived, saving the Philosopher's Stone from Voldemort, slaying a Basilisk and being a Quidditch star all under his belt.

So Slytherin, if you really want to show ambition and cunning, go with Harry Potter, not Draco.

Who is on a horse for some reason.
 

Lord Raine

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#7
Do note that as far as anyone in Slytherin knows, and indeed as far as ANYONE AT ALL knows, Harry has to be a direct descendent of Salazar Slytherin. Even Dumbledore only came up with the idea of Harry inheriting some of Voldemort's power around third year. He admits this himself. That means that it's not just something that 'must' be obvious to the house; it's something that must be obvious to every pureblood in the magical world. Seeing how FUDGE knew about it, it's clear that it became public knowledge at some point that Harry is a Parselmouth. Given that, why aren't more Slytherin adults interested in Harry, even if it's in using him as nothing more than political capital or as a pawn in their own games with each-other?

This seems like an incredibly important point that just got glossed over completely. What, do all the Not-Malfoy Purebloods just not give a shit about being a Parselmouth? And, for that matter, why would Lucius not give a shit? Shouldn't he care? THIS IS A HUGE FUCKING DEAL. Why does nobody give a damn about this?

To be honest? I'm actually kind of surprised that none of the ex-Death Eaters wondered whether or not Harry was actually was Voldemort. Seriously, think about it from their perspective. The only person who they know that can speak Parseltongue is Voldemort. Voldemort attacks the Potters. Voldemort disappears. Only Harry is left alive. Harry gets into Hogwarts, and by second year he's talking to snakes. Doesn't this seem, I don't know. Kind of obvious?
 
#8
Lord Raine said:
To be honest? I'm actually kind of surprised that none of the ex-Death Eaters wondered whether or not Harry was actually was Voldemort. Seriously, think about it from their perspective. The only person who they know that can speak Parseltongue is Voldemort. Voldemort attacks the Potters. Voldemort disappears. Only Harry is left alive. Harry gets into Hogwarts, and by second year he's talking to snakes. Doesn't this seem, I don't know. Kind of obvious?
It would be pretty brilliant of Voldemort to get out of death that way. Besides, around second year about half the school thought he was the heir, even the Hufflepuffs. There was even speculation Voldemort was trying to take down a potential rival.

All of this combined should have gotten Slytherin parents encouraging their kids to be friendly with Harry, support him, maybe even push their daughters towards getting close to him in the hopes of arranging their marriage with him. Having the Dark Lord Reborn, the Boy Who Lived and/OR the Heir of Slytherin as a son-in-law or even just an ally would be a massive pile of political capital every damn family would be scrambling for. To say nothing of the children themselves.
 

Obfuscated

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#9
There are a few "snape reads the books" fics out there. Some of them have a truly glorious reaction to Draco's various misdeeds.

Snape is alos ooc nice in thse fics.
 

Hashasheen

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#10
Lord Raine said:
To be honest? I'm actually kind of surprised that none of the ex-Death Eaters wondered whether or not Harry was actually was Voldemort. Seriously, think about it from their perspective. The only person who they know that can speak Parseltongue is Voldemort. Voldemort attacks the Potters. Voldemort disappears. Only Harry is left alive. Harry gets into Hogwarts, and by second year he's talking to snakes. Doesn't this seem, I don't know. Kind of obvious?
They do. Snape and Bellatrix discuss it in the later books. Learn to Read. :p
 

Darksnider05

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#12
Because it only takes one Death Eater parent to say poison that fuckers Cheerios.

There is really only one way for him to be believably in Slytherin and it has him being so predatory that the rest of the house is so scared they won't attack him.

Regardless of any misunderstood Slytherin feelings people have those are the kids of the majority of former terrorist who killed Harry's family.
 

loki-l

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#13
I always wondered what Draco's classmates and their parents would have said when they learned about the Horocrux diary. They might not have been to concerned with some muggleborns being petrified, but if they learned that the original plan involved killing an 11-year old pureblood because Malfoy had a beef with her parents that might have been something else. It sets a very bad precedent.

Harry is a relatively nice guy, but the events of the second year from the perspective of a not very nice person paint a whole different picture. Harry learns that there is no real justice in the wizarding world. if you are rich and famous enough you can get away with murder. He learns that even Dumbeldore will overlook an attempted murder if it is politically expedient. He learns that a parselmouth can open secret doors and he learns what the Slytherin common room looks like. If he were to relate this experience to some classmate they might very well become somewhat upset and concerned.

Malfoy just declared that children as young as 11 are fair game, taught Harry that he probably can get away with murder, and motivated him to break into the Slythrine dorm. Even some Death Eater parents might feel that they were better of when they had a sort of truce, and Harry had no reason to retaliate by harming their children. For that matter a few pointed comments from Harry to Narcissa might end up with Lucius sleeping on the couch and Draco transferring to Durmstrang, she genuinely cares for her son's wellbeing after all and would not be happy.

It doesn't really matter that Harry is a nice guy and would not dream of sneaking into the Slytherine dorm to murder 1st years with death eater parents in their sleep. Just the possibility that he might and Malfoy giving him both the idea, the motivation and the justification would be enough to upset some people.
 

Schema

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#14
Honestly, don't see anything to original or worth noting here.
 
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